Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:50:09PM -0400, Warren Kumari wrote: > Less flippantly, it is in this email: > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg13004.html I > don't think that we have a really good motivation for a week, other > than that is feels sort of like a good, human scale t

Re: [DNSOP] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection > Thank for you review. I have posted a new version in github at https://github.com/wkumari/draft-livingood-dnsop-negative-tr

Re: [DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines.

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread manning
Hum… The then director has no recollection of that and a request to ICANN to produce such a letter was denied. All we have is an assertion that a request was made. Neither Herb, nor Bob have any idea what happened. In the interests of openness & transparency, one might expect less demure beha

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread David Conrad
Jaap, >> Thanks. I didn't check the tables before writing. I was pretty sure >> xq wasn't already assigned to a specific country or territory, but I >> didn't think about a '1918' style designation of two letter codes. >> Perhaps we need another subset to put these into. It would be a >> 'final'

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread David Conrad
No. At the time, the Administrative Contact as listed in the IANA Whois database was USC-ISI. They (IIRC, the Director of ISI) requested the TLD to be removed from the root zone. Regards, -drc > On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:57 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > >> On Jul 7, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Dr Eberhard

[DNSOP] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Alissa Cooper
Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Ple

[DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-08 Thread manning
With the WG Chairs permission. RFC 2181 is growing a both long in the tooth. It is, by its own admission, a collection of eight distinct and independent ideas. As such, it is difficult to work on one of those ideas without raising concerns about all of them. With some coworkers, we split o

[DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-08 Thread manning
With the WG Chairs permission. RFC 2181 is growing a both long in the tooth. It is, by its own admission, a collection of eight distinct and independent ideas. As such, it is difficult to work on one of those ideas without raising concerns about all of them. With some coworkers, we split o

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Edward Lewis
On 7/8/15, 13:51, "DNSOP on behalf of Rubens Kuhl" wrote: > >> Em 08/07/2015, à(s) 14:33:000, Edward Lewis >>escreveu: >> >> On 7/8/15, 7:36, "Suzanne Woolf" wrote: >> >>> For example, the distinction between gTLDs and ccTLDs is of great >>> importance to ICANN and to participants in its deci

[DNSOP] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Ben Campbell
Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Plea

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> Em 08/07/2015, à(s) 14:33:000, Edward Lewis escreveu: > > On 7/8/15, 7:36, "Suzanne Woolf" wrote: > >> For example, the distinction between gTLDs and ccTLDs is of great >> importance to ICANN and to participants in its decisions, but of less >> obvious relevance to an application developer o

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Edward Lewis
On 7/8/15, 7:36, "Suzanne Woolf" wrote: >For example, the distinction between gTLDs and ccTLDs is of great >importance to ICANN and to participants in its decisions, but of less >obvious relevance to an application developer or DNS operator who sees >only "name that gets a positive response to a

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Hugo Maxwell Connery wrote: > I posit that continued inaction on the question of "Does the .onion case > fit the RFC6761 mechanism" actually weakens the reputation of the IETF, and > certainly that of DNSOP. > > I acknowledge that it is important to have discussion

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-roadblock-avoidance & support for local DNS views

2015-07-08 Thread Petr Spacek
On 26.6.2015 22:45, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: >> On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: >> draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-roadblock-avoidance is a nice idea in general but >> current version of "Roadblock Avoidance", section 5, version 01 has a >> significant drawback: >> >> Else if the r

Re: [DNSOP] Terry Manderson's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Terry Manderson > wrote: >> Terry Manderson has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Hugo Maxwell Connery
Hi, Thanks, Suzanne for your thoughtful contribution. I posit that continued inaction on the question of "Does the .onion case fit the RFC6761 mechanism" actually weakens the reputation of the IETF, and certainly that of DNSOP. I acknowledge that it is important to have discussion and a wide ra

Re: [DNSOP] Terry Manderson's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > Terry Manderson has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC li

Re: [DNSOP] DNS updates and classless in-addr.arpa delegation/CNAMEs

2015-07-08 Thread Petr Spacek
On 30.6.2015 01:55, Mark Andrews wrote: > Section 3 contains a obvious error > > "192.0.2.1 -> 2.0.192.in-addr.arpa." should be > "192.0.2.1 -> 1.2.0.192.in-addr.arpa." Thank you, I've fixed it in the Git repo. I would really appreciate more feedback about Section 4 and definition of canonicaliz

[DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Colleagues, As we pursue this discussion, I think it would be helpful to focus on attributes that are visible and relevant from the perspective of DNS operators, with an eye towards guidance we might provide to them and applications developers. For example, the distinction between gTLDs and cc

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-02.txt

2015-07-08 Thread John Dickinson
Hi, On 07/07/2015 12:29, Tony Finch wrote: John Dickinson wrote: We have just submitted a -02 update to the 5966bis draft. I have read through this draft. It looks in good shape to me. A general comment: can you please grep for lower-case RFC 2119 keywords and either upper-case them or repla

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt

2015-07-08 Thread fujiwara
> From: Bob Harold > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:20 AM, wrote: > >> Akira Kato and I submitted draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01. >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse/ >> >> >> ... > >> -- >> Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS >> >> I am concerned that t

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That corresponds to my recollection. el On 2015-07-08 08:57, Bill Woodcock wrote: > >> On Jul 7, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse >> wrote: My recollection is somewhat different from the AC >> "requesting" the revocation. > > I meant the Depart

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Steve Crocker writes: > >> xq > > > > 'pq' is a better example. 'xq' is classified as User Assigned, which > > means it has been assigned for use by anyone for their own purposes. 'pq' > > is (using Wikipedia�s term) unassigned. > > Thanks. I didn't check the tables before writing.

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Jul 7, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > My recollection is somewhat different from the AC "requesting" the > revocation. I meant the Department of the Interior. If I’m remembering correctly. -Bill signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-08 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Steve Crocker writes: > > For the alpha 3-code the complete user assigned set is: > > > >AAA-AAZ, QMA-QZZ, XAA-XZZZ and ZZA to ZZZ > > > > so one could argue that the delegations for TLD xyz (and maybe xxx) is > > a actually against the rules in ICANN�s Application Guide Book. > >