On 28 May 2014, at 15:23, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
So not to put too fine a point on it, but where is the use case for this
proposal? It seems like something that is more of someone's cool hack than
a standard people ought to implement. What am I missing?
Is the use case
On May 28, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
Is the use case perhaps the ability to attack comment-like metadata
Definitely a possibility. :)
If this is really something that's mainly useful for BIND9, then you'd think
a private RRType would suffice, similar to the use
On May 28, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
So not to put too fine a point on it, but where is the use case for this
proposal? It seems like something that is more of someone's cool hack than
a standard people ought to implement. What am I missing?
On 28 May 2014, at 16:33, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
On May 28, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
Is the use case perhaps the ability to attack comment-like metadata
Definitely a possibility. :)
Sorry, I've been teaching people at AfNOG about DNS and
So not to put too fine a point on it, but where is the use case for this
proposal? It seems like something that is more of someone's cool hack
than a standard people ought to implement. What am I missing?
The first three I thought of when the Dan suggested the feature:
1) In the places
On May 28, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Evan Hunt e...@isc.org wrote:
1) In the places I've worked, there have often been emails going around
asking who's in charge of a particular machine or a particular IP address,
that information having apparently been misplaced since the machine was set
up or the
- I don't think we should lose a bit from the header for this. If we just
discovered the need for this, it is not important enough to burn a bit on.
- EDNS0 seems fine for it, but it feels much more like a Meta type
--Paul Hoffman
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:20:26PM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
These are all examples of things that are ordinarily addressed by some
kind of IPAM user interface.
True, for the first two, at least, and the third could be solved on
an implementation-specific basis by storing metadata outside the
On May 28, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Evan Hunt e...@isc.org wrote:
But another way of saying that is: software exists that kluges around
this lacuna in the DNS feature set, which doesn't mean it isn't a
lacuna.
Sure, but you could also say that IP leaves out the feature of supporting
streaming, and
At Wed, 28 May 2014 12:57:55 -0400,
Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
What you are proposing is essentially a management function, not a
naming function. Using the DNS to provide that function can work,
and may even make sense in some cases, but I don't think it's the
right thing to do
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:30:57PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
On a purely stylistic level I agree with you. :) However this signal
would only have to be sent when requesting a zone transfer, and the
extra 32 bits would be in the noise.
The direction of the wind being clear, I have redrafted
One of our operations staff made what I thought was a clever suggestion
the other day: That it would be nice, from an operational standpoint,
to have a way to encode comments into a zone so that they wouldn't get
obliterated when a dynamic zone was dumped to disk, but couldn't be read
by just
On May 27, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Evan Hunt e...@isc.org wrote:
One of our operations staff made what I thought was a clever suggestion
the other day: That it would be nice, from an operational standpoint,
to have a way to encode comments into a zone so that they wouldn't get
obliterated when a
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57:01PM -0700, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
Using an EDNS0 bit however, does not makes sense to me. Flag bits are
rare and precious, while 16b option codes are not.
I was expecting this feedback, and am entirely prepared to redraft
using an EDNS option if (when?) that
[ Quoting e...@isc.org in [DNSOP] NOTE RR type for confidenti... ]
One of our operations staff made what I thought was a clever suggestion
the other day: That it would be nice, from an operational standpoint,
to have a way to encode comments into a zone so that they wouldn't get
obliterated
On May 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Miek Gieben m...@miek.nl wrote:
[ Quoting e...@isc.org in [DNSOP] NOTE RR type for confidenti... ]
One of our operations staff made what I thought was a clever suggestion
the other day: That it would be nice, from an operational standpoint,
to have a way to
[ Quoting nwea...@icsi.berkeley.edu in Re: [DNSOP] NOTE RR type for
confid... ]
On May 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Miek Gieben m...@miek.nl wrote:
[ Quoting e...@isc.org in [DNSOP] NOTE RR type for confidenti... ]
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hunt-note-rr-00.txt
Interesting idea!
On 05/27/2014 12:29 PM, Evan Hunt wrote:
One of our operations staff made what I thought was a clever suggestion
the other day: That it would be nice, from an operational standpoint,
to have a way to encode comments into a zone so that they wouldn't get
obliterated when a dynamic zone was
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 04:08:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm interested in why you think a flag bit is more elegant than an
option, as I agree with Nicholas that the latter is preferable.
As with any argument that resorts to elegance, it's a matter of
taste. A single bit, which is already
On 05/27/2014 04:49 PM, Evan Hunt wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 04:08:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm interested in why you think a flag bit is more elegant than an
option, as I agree with Nicholas that the latter is preferable.
As with any argument that resorts to elegance, it's a matter
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