[PATCH 1/1] storage: remove 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2024-01-14 Thread Alex
This commit removes hardcoded 500 ms debounce from storage that delays all storage notification subscribers such as IDLE and NOTIFY commands. 500 ms debounce constant NOTIFY_DELAY_MSECS was added in 2009 [1]. Before that Dovecot was only delivering notifications when a second-resolution timer is

Re: Unconfigurable 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2023-12-15 Thread Alex
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:37:10AM +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 15. Dec 2023, at 1.59, Alex wrote: > > > >>> I would actually like to disable this delay completely on our server > >>> setup [6], > >>> as for chat it is common to receive multiple > >>> messages in a short period of time, >

Re: Unconfigurable 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2023-12-15 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 15. Dec 2023, at 1.59, Alex wrote: > >>> I would actually like to disable this delay completely on our server setup >>> [6], >>> as for chat it is common to receive multiple >>> messages in a short period of time, >>> e.g. when sending a message to a group and receiving multiple read

Re: Unconfigurable 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2023-12-14 Thread Alex
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 07:17:16PM +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > I wonder if this debounce delay was added as a workaround > > for an internal Dovecot bug or a client bug > > and is not necessary anymore. > > It does not seem to be useful for well-behaving clients because > > if necessary the

Re: Unconfigurable 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2023-12-14 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 14. Dec 2023, at 16.21, Alex wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have been investigating the reason for high > end-to-end email delivery delay > (>1 second to send a message to echo bot and receive a reply back) > on a Postfix+Dovecot email server setup > used to run the tests for Delta Chat core

Unconfigurable 500 ms debounce on IMAP IDLE notifications

2023-12-14 Thread Alex
Hello all, I have been investigating the reason for high end-to-end email delivery delay (>1 second to send a message to echo bot and receive a reply back) on a Postfix+Dovecot email server setup used to run the tests for Delta Chat core [1]. It appeared that most of the time was spent between

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-28 Thread Sami Ketola via dovecot
> On 27 Jul 2019, at 13.15, Jorge Bastos via dovecot > wrote: > > Guys, > > I just discovered the reason! > > When i migrated the account from the old imap server to the new (dovecot), i > didn't removed and created the account in msoutlook, as i didn't saw any > reason to do it. >

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-27 Thread @lbutlr via dovecot
On 27 Jul 2019, at 04:15, Jorge Bastos wrote: > When i migrated the account from the old imap server to the new (dovecot), i > didn't removed and created the account in msoutlook, as i didn't saw any > reason to do it. > Creating the account again, IDLE works ok! Glad you got that figured out.

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-27 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
you for the help, -Original Message- From: dovecot On Behalf Of Jorge Bastos via dovecot Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 23:32 To: 'Dovecot Mailing List' Subject: RE: Help with IMAP IDLE Well, I've been doing some research, and it seems that msoutlook 2016 and 2019 doesn't quite have imap

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-23 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Well, I've been doing some research, and it seems that msoutlook 2016 and 2019 doesn't quite have imap idle support. The odd part, is that when i had DBMail, it was IDLE'ing (i swear), Would dbmail send something different that make it work? It was an old version of dbmail, 2.3.7 i believe, from

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-23 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Yes, Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE LITERAL+ AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN] > Yes, it works with other IMAP servers, why should not work with dovecot? > It was working with DBMail, and it's working with an account from my Telco > that used

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-22 Thread @lbutlr via dovecot
On 22 Jul 2019, at 03:45, Jorge Bastos via dovecot wrote: > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:50, Jorge Bastos via dovecot > wrote: >>> SSL/TLS is done via Stunnel > >> Dirst, others have asked but I haven’t seen an answer, do you have any >> reason to think Outlook suppor

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-22 Thread Sami Ketola via dovecot
> On 22 Jul 2019, at 12.45, Jorge Bastos via dovecot > wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:50, Jorge Bastos via dovecot > wrote: >> SSL/TLS is done via Stunnel > >> Dirst, others have asked but I haven’t seen an answer, do you have any >> reason to thi

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-22 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:50, Jorge Bastos via dovecot wrote: > SSL/TLS is done via Stunnel > Dirst, others have asked but I haven’t seen an answer, do you have any reason > to think Outlook supports IMAP idle at all? I mean, I know outlook.com > > doesn’t support it, so maybe

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread LuKreme via dovecot
On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:50, Jorge Bastos via dovecot wrote: > SSL/TLS is done via Stunnel Dirst, others have asked but I haven’t seen an answer, do you have any reason to think Outlook supports IMAP idle at all? I mean, I know outlook.com doesn’t support it, so maybe it just doesn’t w

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
s. SSL/TLS is done via Stunnel > > https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/debugging/debugging_rawlog/ > > In fact, you could use this feature to find out whether outlook even tries to > use IMAP IDLE in the first place. Let me check, it must be a reason to not be working with dovecot, when it was with DBMail, Will check and reply soon, > > Aki

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
feature, which is better for this. https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/debugging/debugging_rawlog/ In fact, you could use this feature to find out whether outlook even tries to use IMAP IDLE in the first place. Aki

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
List' Subject: RE: Help with IMAP IDLE Sorry... I meant to past dovecot and not postfix, doing simultaneously stuff ends up in this! Yes, i migrated from DBMail and it was working OK. Here it is: root@fastmail:/etc/dovecot# doveconf -n|grep -i idle imap_idle_notify_interval = 1 mins

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
/dovecot# -Original Message- From: dovecot On Behalf Of Alexander Dalloz via dovecot Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 13:31 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: Help with IMAP IDLE Am 21.07.19 um 14:24 schrieb Jorge Bastos via dovecot: > Hi, [ ... ] > How can i make IDLE work fo

RE: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Here's the full dovecot -n for you both: https://pastebin.com/C5JEJr0D From: Aki Tuomi Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 13:29 To: Jorge Bastos ; Jorge Bastos via dovecot Subject: Re: Help with IMAP IDLE On 21/07/2019 15:24 Jorge Bastos via dovecot mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Alexander Dalloz via dovecot
is been poorly implemented, across many generations of Outlook. So are you sure your Outlook even supports IMAP IDLE? And if it does, not only on the single folder you have a running connection to but for all folders? Here's my conf, should it be reflected in postconf -n (is it the running

Re: Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
On 21/07/2019 15:24 Jorge Bastos via dovecot wrote: Hi, I’m becaming crazy about this! I’ve asked before, not no matter what i do or conf, never works. How can i make IDLE work for real with MSOutlook, so that

Help with IMAP IDLE

2019-07-21 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Hi, I'm becaming crazy about this! I've asked before, not no matter what i do or conf, never works. How can i make IDLE work for real with MSOutlook, so that i can receive emails when they arrive, instead of changing folder/get out and in my account? Here's my conf, should it be

RE: IMAP IDLE

2019-06-20 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
onf:54: imap_client_workarounds=outlook-idle is no longer necessary -Original Message- From: dovecot On Behalf Of Jorge Bastos via dovecot Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:32 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: RE: IMAP IDLE Hum guys, For this, i was comparing configuration from my old dbm

RE: IMAP IDLE

2019-06-20 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Message- From: dovecot On Behalf Of Jorge Bastos via dovecot Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:04 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: RE: IMAP IDLE Hi, 2.2.33.2 Well your confs are almost mine except for director_ping_idle_timeout = 30 secs submission_relay_max_idle_time = 29 mins but i think

RE: IMAP IDLE

2019-06-20 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
in the inbox, no matter if it was selected for 15m or the last 4 hours Any ideia please let me know, -Original Message- From: dovecot On Behalf Of @lbutlr via dovecot Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 0:20 To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: IMAP IDLE On 19 Jun 2019, at 16:11, Jorge Bastos

Re: IMAP IDLE

2019-06-19 Thread @lbutlr via dovecot
On 19 Jun 2019, at 16:11, Jorge Bastos via dovecot wrote: > root@fastmail:/etc/dovecot# doveconf |grep -i idle > default_idle_kill = 1 mins > imap_idle_notify_interval = 2 mins > imapc_max_idle_time = 29 mins > mailbox_idle_check_interval = 30 secs I have: default_idle_kill = 1 mins

IMAP IDLE

2019-06-19 Thread Jorge Bastos via dovecot
Hi, With outlook 2016+ i've seen that IDLE may be missing some configuration. Almost all time, when i'm in the inbox, i don't get new emails if no activity for 1 or 2 minutes (i think), i have to get out of the account and select the inbox or click other folder in the account and go to inbox

Re: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread The Doctor
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:49:02PM +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 23 Aug 2016, at 15:08, cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br wrote: > > > > Hello Guys, > > I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The > > problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another

RES: RES: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread Cleber @ Listas
Mailing List <dovecot@dovecot.org>; Cleber @ Listas <cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br> Assunto: Re: RES: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 You should probably update your proxy to provide the same capability list to your clients as your SmarterMail backend (with few

Re: RES: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread Aki Tuomi
9:01 [201.74.248.186][57965505] response: wclw OK NOOP completed > 10:39:36 [201.74.248.186][13534103] disconnected at 24/08/2016 10:39:36 > > > > > > -Mensagem original- > De: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org] Em nome de Timo Sirainen > Enviada e

RES: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread Cleber @ Listas
esponse: wclw OK NOOP completed 10:39:36 [201.74.248.186][13534103] disconnected at 24/08/2016 10:39:36 -Mensagem original- De: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org] Em nome de Timo Sirainen Enviada em: quarta-feira, 24 de agosto de 2016 06:49 Para: cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br Cc: dovecot@dov

RES: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread Cleber @ Listas
, would not the because Dovecot send the IDLE command to SmarterMail. -Mensagem original- De: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org] Em nome de Aki Tuomi Enviada em: terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2016 13:25 Para: dovecot@dovecot.org Assunto: Re: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18

Re: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 23 Aug 2016, at 15:08, cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br wrote: > > Hello Guys, > I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The > problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another > e-mail server (in our case it's a Smartermail Server) the DoveCot

Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-24 Thread cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br
Hello Guys, I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another e-mail server (in our case it's a Smartermail Server) the DoveCot send a lot of IDLE commands to the destination server. With that, the

Re: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-23 Thread Aki Tuomi
On 23.08.2016 19:15, Aki Tuomi wrote: On 23.08.2016 15:08, cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br wrote: Hello Guys, I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another e-mail server (in our case it's a

Re: Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-23 Thread Aki Tuomi
On 23.08.2016 15:08, cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br wrote: Hello Guys, I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another e-mail server (in our case it's a Smartermail Server) the DoveCot send a lot of

Possible IMAP IDLE bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25

2016-08-23 Thread cleber-lis...@inetweb.com.br
Hello Guys, I guess that I found a bug in Dovecot 2.2.18 and 2.2.25 versions. The problem it's when I try to connect in a Dovecot used a proxy to another e-mail server (in our case it's a Smartermail Server) the DoveCot send a lot of IDLE commands to the destination server. With that, the LOG

Re: IMAP Idle

2016-03-26 Thread Joseph Tam
The IDLE disconnection timeout is hardwired in the Dovecot code http://wiki.dovecot.org/Timeouts It's set to the RFC minimum of 30min. I am ok if connection is closed automatically after 30 min if client is not responding but connection is not being closed even after 2 days. Hmm.

Re: IMAP Idle

2016-03-25 Thread Joy
I am ok if connection is closed automatically after 30 min if client is not responding but connection is not being closed even after 2 days. On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Joseph Tam <jtam.h...@gmail.com> wrote: > Joy <pj.netfil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We hav

Re: IMAP Idle

2016-03-25 Thread Joseph Tam
Joy <pj.netfil...@gmail.com> wrote: We have implement imap idle in web mail built by us to have push mail feature. IMAP idle working perfectly with browser notification and we are happy with it but having one issue with users who close the browser directly and never

IMAP Idle

2016-03-25 Thread Joy
Hi guys, We have implement imap idle in web mail built by us to have push mail feature. IMAP idle working perfectly with browser notification and we are happy with it but having one issue with users who close the browser directly and never logout in that case there are number of idle

Re: [Dovecot] Managing IMAP IDLE/Push with Sieve – possible?

2013-07-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, FF wrote: Thanks, that's interesting -- two questions: 1) Why is it not possible? Just not implemented, or is there any technical reason that actually prevents it from being implemented? Because the current implementation

Re: [Dovecot] Managing IMAP IDLE/Push with Sieve – possible?

2013-07-23 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, FF wrote: I've been using Dovecot with Sieve for a long time already, and I'm very happy with it. Push is working fine too. I was wondering, however, whether it would be possible to define a Sieve rule (perhaps using some

Re: [Dovecot] Managing IMAP IDLE/Push with Sieve – possible?

2013-07-23 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 23.07.2013 09:39, schrieb Steffen Kaiser: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, FF wrote: I've been using Dovecot with Sieve for a long time already, and I'm very happy with it. Push is working fine too. I was wondering, however, whether it would be possible to define a Sieve rule (perhaps using some

Re: [Dovecot] Managing IMAP IDLE/Push with Sieve – possible?

2013-07-23 Thread FF
Hi, Thanks, that's interesting -- two questions: 1) Why is it not possible? Just not implemented, or is there any technical reason that actually prevents it from being implemented? 2) What do you mean by INBOX? Another, completely separate email account? Yes, that would be my backup plan.

[Dovecot] Managing IMAP IDLE/Push with Sieve – possible?

2013-07-22 Thread FF
Hello, I've been using Dovecot with Sieve for a long time already, and I'm very happy with it. Push is working fine too. I was wondering, however, whether it would be possible to define a Sieve rule (perhaps using some plug-in), such that an IMAP push message gets sent out only for specific

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-29 Thread Giles Coochey
On 23/08/2012 21:49, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 23.8.2012, at 23.26, Warren Baker wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/8d7f9e2d726c Is there a reason why

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Warren Baker
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? Is it actually used? :) I've used 192.168 in my home network and all corporate networks I've seen have been 10/8. But yeah, I guess since there aren't

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:10:42 +0200 Warren Baker articulated: Yeah as others have mentioned - also not sure whether it is worth the effort to support IPv6's 'private' network (fc00::/7)? I havent seen anyone making use of this for their v6 enabled sites but others may have input here. I would

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Matthew Powell
On 2012-08-24, at 7.01, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: I would personally recommend supporting it. If history teaches us anything, it is that sooner or later, and usually sooner, someone will require that block. Being prepared for it in advance would seem like the prudent thing to do. I

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2012 13:18, schrieb Matthew Powell: On 2012-08-24, at 7.01, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: I would personally recommend supporting it. If history teaches us anything, it is that sooner or later, and usually sooner, someone will require that block. Being prepared for it in

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Warren Baker
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/8d7f9e2d726c Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? -- .warren

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Daryl Richards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-08-23 4:49 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 23.8.2012, at 23.26, Warren Baker wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: v2.2 has this now:

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Luigi Rosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Sirainen said the following on 23/08/12 22:49: Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? Is it actually used? :) YES! I have a big customer (400 PCs) with 172.16.0.0/16 internal network and a subnet of 192.168.0.0

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Ed W
On 10/08/2012 10:25, Timo Sirainen wrote: how does help me save battery if i have a folder-structure maintained by sieve if i do not get my new mails? If you open 10 connections to IMAP server and will IDLE on them - your phone will wake up to reply for ping in every of that 10 connections.

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 14.8.2012, at 11.04, Ed W wrote: - Then there is tcp keepalive. Does Dovecot enable these? (Sorry, I should look in the code...). Yes. However, applications which enable it (eg optional in SSH) will trigger a default (I think) 75 second network packet It's something like 2 hours by

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: Yes, doesn't help with multiple accounts, because the hashed username is different (no IP). I guess this could be changed to be per IP just as well. I think I wondered about which one to use previously but didn't see any point

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Luigi Rosa
dove...@noboost.org said the following on 10/08/2012 04:44: Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. I used K-9 client

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Robin
On 8/9/2012 11:26 PM, Luigi Rosa wrote: I used K-9 client on Android for one year with push, but I had to remove it and go back to integrated email client because it drained the battery. It sounds like push was really implemented as a poll. =R=

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.08.2012 08:26, schrieb Luigi Rosa: dove...@noboost.org said the following on 10/08/2012 04:44: Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 09:44, dove...@noboost.org пишет: Hi All, Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. Has anyone successfully deployed

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: On small mailboxes it's z-push and tine20 for example - they can use IMAP server as backend. z-push works nice here with android, also the new horde beta has now calender, abook, notes, mail sync -- Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 10.8.2012, at 9.31, Robin wrote: On 8/9/2012 11:26 PM, Luigi Rosa wrote: I used K-9 client on Android for one year with push, but I had to remove it and go back to integrated email client because it drained the battery. It sounds like push was really implemented as a poll. Dovecot has

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: iPhone will not notify for new mail in any folder, except INBOX - it's IMAP limitation. IMAP IDLE monitor only one selected folder. If you need notifying of new mail in copule of mail folders you shold look for ActiveSync realization

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: iPhone will not notify for new mail in any folder, except INBOX - it's IMAP limitation. IMAP IDLE monitor only one selected folder. If you need notifying of new mail in copule of mail folders you shold look

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 10:46, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: 10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: i have a Android with K9, a lot of folders where messages are stored by sieve-scirpts and on my phone i can actively select which folders should be used for push Sure, it can do it in two ways: open

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 15:59, Reindl Harald пишет: Am 10.08.2012 10:46, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: 10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: i have a Android with K9, a lot of folders where messages are stored by sieve-scirpts and on my phone i can actively select which folders should be used for push

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 10.8.2012, at 12.21, Sergey S. Kovalev wrote: I think that battery life is the reason, why this feature is not implemented in iPhone. It will use only one IMAP connection so it is not it's IMAP limitation As I told - IMAP limitation is to control only one folder. Assuming NOTIFY extension

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Michael Stilkerich
Hi, On 10-Aug-12 4:48, Timo Sirainen wrote: Related question that came to my mind: Does anyone know if XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE feature can be implemented by any server, or does it require cooperation between the server and the mobile network operator? I'm guessing the latter.. the Apple push

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 16:25, Timo Sirainen пишет: how does help me save battery if i have a folder-structure maintained by sieve if i do not get my new mails? If you open 10 connections to IMAP server and will IDLE on them - your phone will wake up to reply for ping in every of that 10 connections.

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 11:21, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: and that is why K9 on android let you select which folders are relevant for you on the mobile and which should be completly ignored and display the selected in common inbox This is not an argument. You can have hundred of folders sorted by

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 16:57, Reindl Harald пишет: surely IT IS an argument on a non-iPhone you can chosse what is important your agrumentation is even one argument more against iPhone If we now talking about android vs iPhone now... Imagine Android default email client. It have no many features, that

[Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread dovecot
Hi All, Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. Has anyone successfully deployed this? If yes, did you have to use an app from

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread Timo Sirainen
Related question that came to my mind: Does anyone know if XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE feature can be implemented by any server, or does it require cooperation between the server and the mobile network operator? I'm guessing the latter..

Re: [Dovecot] imap idle and concurrent connections

2011-07-05 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi, On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 4.7.2011, at 13.07, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Two telnet imap connections open and both idling on the inbox and only one of them gets the 1 recent notification. This is how it's supposed to work according to IMAP RFC.

[Dovecot] imap idle and concurrent connections

2011-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi, in my testing dovecot (1.2 in that case) seems to not notify all idling clients about new recent mails but only one of them. The others get usually a message about the new number of mails after some time but never recent ones. Only one client gets notified about a new mail. Is that a known

Re: [Dovecot] imap idle and concurrent connections

2011-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi, On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ed W li...@wildgooses.com wrote: On 04/07/2011 09:04, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Hi, in my testing dovecot (1.2 in that case) seems to not notify all idling clients about new recent mails but only one of them. The others get usually a message about the

Re: [Dovecot] imap idle and concurrent connections

2011-07-04 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 4.7.2011, at 13.07, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: Two telnet imap connections open and both idling on the inbox and only one of them gets the 1 recent notification. This is how it's supposed to work according to IMAP RFC. Only one session ever sees a message as \Recent. Both of them gets an

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Hi Timo, Here: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/eb1f471a924d Cool! I've just tested this patch on 1.2 (current hg version), and the patch applies cleanly and seems to work as well. I'm running it right now. Are there any plans to include this in 1.2 still? Gr. Matthijs signature.asc

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 12:22 +0200, Matthijs Kooijman wrote: Hi Timo, Here: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/eb1f471a924d Cool! I've just tested this patch on 1.2 (current hg version), and the patch applies cleanly and seems to work as well. I'm running it right now. Are there any

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi: On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 12:22 +0200, Matthijs Kooijman wrote: Hi Timo, Here: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/eb1f471a924d Cool! I've just tested this patch on 1.2 (current hg version), and the patch applies cleanly and seems to work as well. I'm

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 16:21 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: I was planning to avoid adding any changes to v1.2 that aren't bugfixes. (This more like a feature. :) Oh, come on. You even wrote /* FIXME: maybe some day */ :) Well, fine.. http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-1.2/rev/367ce71922bf But

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Well, fine.. http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-1.2/rev/367ce71922bf Woohoo, thanks :-) But I don't know when 1.2.14 release will come, if ever. We'll see. For now I'm just running a patched version, but this saves me the trouble of recompiling if 1.2.14 every gets released :-) Gr. Matthijs

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-04 Thread Timo Sirainen
Here: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/eb1f471a924d

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-08-04 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Timo, On 2010-08-04 23:54, Timo Sirainen wrote: Here: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.0/rev/eb1f471a924d Thanks, that's great! Now dovecot enables people who sort server-side and want IDLE notifications for all those mailboxes, but do not want

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-07-22 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
where messages don't get removed from mailbox always: Oh, I see. I'll give it another try then, I believe I tried this, but never got notified of new mails in the virtual mailbox through the IMAP IDLE connection. I'm seeing the same thing: IDLE works fine for normal mailboxes, but fails

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-29 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Hi Timo, Patrick, Virtual plugin does already work like that. Although there's a bug where messages don't get removed from mailbox always: Oh, I see. I'll give it another try then, I believe I tried this, but never got notified of new mails in the virtual mailbox through the IMAP IDLE

[Dovecot] OT: IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-15 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 15.04.2010 7:03, Daniel I. Applebaum wrote: Patrick Nagel wrote: One of the core developers of K-9 Mail says: I've been interested in implementing IMAP NOTIFY in K-9 Mail, but will only do it once dovecot supports it. Yeah, that was me. :-) I use dovecot as the reference server for all my

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-14 Thread Daniel I. Applebaum
Patrick Nagel wrote: One of the core developers of K-9 Mail says: I've been interested in implementing IMAP NOTIFY in K-9 Mail, but will only do it once dovecot supports it. Yeah, that was me. :-) I use dovecot as the reference server for all my work on K-9 Mail, and can't think of how to

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-13 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 9.4.2010, at 9.31, Patrick Nagel wrote: 2) Enhancing dovecot's Virtual plugin, so virtual mailboxes do not only get updated on select and expunge, but also when anything changes that affects the set of messages shown in the virtual mailbox. I guess that would have an impact on performance,

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-13 Thread Patrick Nagel
messages don't get expunged unless EXPUNGE is issued in same session. otherwise they get forgotten and never removed. Oh, I see. I'll give it another try then, I believe I tried this, but never got notified of new mails in the virtual mailbox through the IMAP IDLE connection. And NOTIFY isn't

[Dovecot] Slightly OT: iPhone IMAP IDLE

2010-04-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Hi all, Does anybody know whether iPhone is supposed to be able to do IMAP IDLE? I know it does Push but that seems to be using Apple's Mobile Me and Exchange. Cheers, Sabahattin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Dovecot] Slightly OT: iPhone IMAP IDLE

2010-04-11 Thread Renaud Allard
On 12/04/2010 02:49, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Hi all, Does anybody know whether iPhone is supposed to be able to do IMAP IDLE? I know it does Push but that seems to be using Apple's Mobile Me and Exchange. Hi, The iPhone doesn't seem to support imap-idle as it closes the connection

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-11 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nikolay, (I changed my dovecot mailing list subscription from my work mail account to my private mail account - I'm the guy who started this thread) On 2010-04-10 15:22, Nikolay Shopik wrote: On 10.04.2010 11:13, Patrick Nagel wrote: The client

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-10 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nikolay, On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:12:54 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote: On 09.04.2010 11:19, Patrick Nagel wrote: That's great news, thanks for the pointer!:) Inhttp://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2009-August/041950.html Timo says that IMAP NOTIFY is

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 10.04.2010 11:13, Patrick Nagel wrote: The client can also request notifications on other mailboxes by name or by a limited mailbox pattern match. Message-related notifications returned for the currently selected mailbox will be those specified by the SELECTED/SELECTED-DELAYED mailbox

[Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-09 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, K-9 Mail (on Android) has been mentioned on this list multiple times recently, I think it's definitely an IMAP client on the rise. :) It supports IMAP IDLE, and so brings push mail to Android mobile phone users. To bring this into the context

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-09 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 09.04.2010 10:31, Patrick Nagel wrote: 1) A new extension of the IMAP protocol: IMAP MULTI-IDLE, which somehow allows a client to get notified of changes to more than one mailbox within one IMAP connection. This conflicts with the basic IMAP design though, AFAIK, and is thus not likely to be

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE, Virtual mailboxes

2010-04-09 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nikolay, On 2010-04-09 14:51, Nikolay Shopik wrote: On 09.04.2010 10:31, Patrick Nagel wrote: 1) A new extension of the IMAP protocol: IMAP MULTI-IDLE, which somehow allows a client to get notified of changes to more than one mailbox within

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