Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-05-01 Thread John Stoffel
> "@lbutlr" == @lbutlr writes: @lbutlr> On 30 Apr 2021, at 01:20, Arjen de Korte wrote: >> Citeren "@lbutlr" : >> >>> When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX >>> records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, >>> allowing users to

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread @lbutlr
On 30 Apr 2021, at 13:47, Robert L Mathews wrote: > Because of this, I've changed my company's various email > autoconfigure/autodiscover hints and help pages to recommend configuring > new clients using port 993 for IMAP The is the right choice, though port 993 is IMAPS, not IMAP. I did not even

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Robert L Mathews
On 4/29/21 2:22 AM, Steve Dondley wrote: > Some more nuttiness: I bit the bullet and downloaded a trial version of > MS 365 and downloaded the Outlook desktop. On my mac, at least, there > are two different interfaces/version of Outlook: the "old" Outlook and a > "new," more minimalist version. Yo

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-30 09:20, Arjen de Korte wrote: Citeren "@lbutlr" : When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. No one does this.

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-30 09:13, @lbutlr wrote: When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. checking mx is simple, but it might not be the rig

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Erwan David
Le 30/04/2021 à 19:06, Benny Pedersen a écrit : > On 2021-04-30 03:48, Adi Pircalabu wrote: >> On 29-04-2021 23:08, @lbutlr wrote: >>> On 29 Apr 2021, at 03:22, Steve Dondley wrote: I am totally unfamiliar with Exchange servers. What do they offer, exactly, that dovecot/postfix does not (

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-30 03:48, Adi Pircalabu wrote: On 29-04-2021 23:08, @lbutlr wrote: On 29 Apr 2021, at 03:22, Steve Dondley wrote: I am totally unfamiliar with Exchange servers. What do they offer, exactly, that dovecot/postfix does not (besides a revenue stream for MS)? A monthly stipend to Micro

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread James
On 30/04/2021 08:13, @lbutlr wrote: When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. Better to use DNS SVR records than guess from MX

automx2 (Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?)

2021-04-30 Thread Ralph Seichter
* sebast...@sebbe.eu: > When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the > MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP > servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain > prefix. As pointed out here before, that approach would not general

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Erwan David
Le 30/04/2021 à 11:47, James a écrit : On 30/04/2021 08:13, @lbutlr wrote: When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. Better to

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Jochen Bern
On 30.04.21 09:20, Arjen de Korte wrote: > Citeren "@lbutlr" : >> When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX >> records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP >> servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. > > Rightfully so.

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Arjen de Korte
Citeren "@lbutlr" : On 30 Apr 2021, at 01:20, Arjen de Korte wrote: Citeren "@lbutlr" : When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread @lbutlr
On 30 Apr 2021, at 01:20, Arjen de Korte wrote: > Citeren "@lbutlr" : > >> When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX >> records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, >> allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. >> >>

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Arjen de Korte
Citeren "@lbutlr" : When you enter your email address, it would be TRIVIAL to check the MX records for the domain and fill those in for the SMTP and IMAP servers, allowing users to more easily add (if needed) the domain prefix. No one does this. Rightfully so. There is absolutely no gua

Sv: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread Sebastian
21 09:14 Till: dovecot mailing list Ämne: Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook? On 29 Apr 2021, at 19:48, Adi Pircalabu wrote: > > > Fact: Exchange (especially hosted) is 2010-ish, Office365 is the buzzword these days. Microsoft have been trying their best for q

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-30 Thread @lbutlr
On 29 Apr 2021, at 19:48, Adi Pircalabu wrote: > > > Fact: Exchange (especially hosted) is 2010-ish, Office365 is the buzzword > these days. Microsoft have been trying their best for quite some time now to > cripple the IMAP support in Outlook as much as they can so that the email > users wil

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Adi Pircalabu
On 29-04-2021 23:08, @lbutlr wrote: On 29 Apr 2021, at 03:22, Steve Dondley wrote: I am totally unfamiliar with Exchange servers. What do they offer, exactly, that dovecot/postfix does not (besides a revenue stream for MS)? A monthly stipend to Microsoft? (I think they actuallyy do offer som

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:51:13 -0400, Steve Dondley stated: >On 2021-04-29 09:40 AM, Steve Dondley wrote: >>> I am using Outlook without any problems what so ever. >>> >>> It sounds to me like you are setting up Outlook to use port 465. In >>> the >>> setup screen, set the port to either "25" or "5

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-29 09:40 AM, Steve Dondley wrote: I am using Outlook without any problems what so ever. It sounds to me like you are setting up Outlook to use port 465. In the setup screen, set the port to either "25" or "587". I am using "587" with "starttls" Your "incoming mail port" will depend

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Steve Dondley
I am using Outlook without any problems what so ever. It sounds to me like you are setting up Outlook to use port 465. In the setup screen, set the port to either "25" or "587". I am using "587" with "starttls" Your "incoming mail port" will depend on how you have Dovecot configured. I use por

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 29 Apr 2021, at 05:57, Jerry wrote: > It sounds to me like you are setting up Outlook to use port 465. In the > setup screen, set the port to either "25" or "587". I am using "587" > with "starttls" Your "incoming mail port" will depend on how you have > Dovecot configured. I use port "143" wit

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 29 Apr 2021, at 03:22, Steve Dondley wrote: > I am totally unfamiliar with Exchange servers. What do they offer, exactly, > that dovecot/postfix does not (besides a revenue stream for MS)? A monthly stipend to Microsoft? (I think they actuallyy do offer some useful tools for things like meet

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 05:22:45 -0400, Steve Dondley stated: >On 2021-04-29 01:45 AM, @lbutlr wrote: >> On 28 Apr 2021, at 12:49, Steve Dondley wrote: >>> I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook >>> software working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself >>> since I

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Tim Dickson
On 29/04/2021 10:22, Steve Dondley wrote: On 2021-04-29 01:45 AM, @lbutlr wrote: On 28 Apr 2021, at 12:49, Steve Dondley wrote: I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't have Outlook and it wou

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-29 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-29 01:45 AM, @lbutlr wrote: On 28 Apr 2021, at 12:49, Steve Dondley wrote: I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't have Outlook and it would be impossible to keep up with all the d

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread @lbutlr
On 28 Apr 2021, at 12:49, Steve Dondley wrote: > I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software working > well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't have Outlook > and it would be impossible to keep up with all the different versions anyway. How old i

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread Steve Dondley
I think my problem might be here. Instead of %Ln, maybe I should have %L%n? Nope: https://wiki.dovecot.org/DomainLost

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-28 02:49 PM, Steve Dondley wrote: I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't have Outlook and it would be impossible to keep up with all the different versions anyway. I've got the follo

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread Steve Dondley
Your best bet to make Outlook behave better as an IMAP client is to configure a mail "profile" via Control Pannel --> User Accounts --> Mail, and set all the particulars there. Recent versions of Outlook have a stripped down configuration interface that offers no flexibility. For example, from

Re: What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread Greg Rivers
On Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:49:03 CDT Steve Dondley wrote: > I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software > working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't > have Outlook and it would be impossible to keep up with all the > different versions a

What imap ssl/auth settings work best with MS Outlook?

2021-04-28 Thread Steve Dondley
I repeatedly have a hell of a time getting clients' Outlook software working well with Dovecot. It's hard for me to test myself since I don't have Outlook and it would be impossible to keep up with all the different versions anyway. I've got the following settings, currently: disable_plaintex