[Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: >> What developers can do is to recommend ATI cards to end-users, so there is >> larger need for the drivers and larger chance someone would be willing to pay >> for them. > >It seems to me that Linux drivers are an area where ati can claim some >advan

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Bronaugh
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:32:16 Mike A. Harris wrote: > I think your final comment here Peter really hits the nail on the > head. In all honesty, *any* level of support for Linux from any > hardware vendor - currently does not generate enough revenue to > barely cover costs involved in developin

[Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Peter Surda wrote: >>Sure, that is a valid point but we need to remember that in the past >>ATI has not been adverse to supporting open source drivers or to >>releasing specs to qualified people. > >They are very friendly actually. They provided me mach64 and r12

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Peter Surda wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:19:46PM +, David Johnson wrote: > >Sure, that is a valid point but we need to remember that in the past > >ATI has not been adverse to supporting open source drivers or to > >releasing specs to qualified people

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Peter Surda
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:19:46PM +, David Johnson wrote: >Sure, that is a valid point but we need to remember that in the past >ATI has not been adverse to supporting open source drivers or to >releasing specs to qualified people. They are very friendly actually. They provided m

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 21:56, you wrote: > David Johnson wrote: > > They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself > > through PI/VA Linux). > > Sure, but not to people in the general open source community, and with the > demise of PI/VA, I would say the chances of a

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
>From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:56:53 -0700 > >David Johnson wrote: > >> >>They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including >>yours

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Gareth Hughes
David Johnson wrote: > > They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself > through PI/VA Linux). Sure, but not to people in the general open source community, and with the demise of PI/VA, I would say the chances of a driver done by anyone other than ATI are slim to ni

RE: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
>From: "Daniel Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:51:31 -0400 > > > They did release specs (under NDA) to many people > > (including yourself through PI/VA Linux)

RE: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Daniel Vogel
> They did release specs (under NDA) to many people > (including yourself through PI/VA Linux). Keep in mind that ATI was paying VA Linux to develop Radeon Linux drivers at the time. - Daniel Vogel, Programmer, Epic Games Inc. ___ Dri-devel mailing l

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 21:05, you wrote: > Dacobi Coding wrote: > > But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs > > for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete > > with V/P Shaders and TL? > > Did they ever release specs for the original Radeon? No. One

Re: [Dri-devel] DRI CVS compile problems finding X libs

2001-09-27 Thread Michel Dänzer
Simon Fowler wrote: > About a month or two ago the DRI cvs tree was pruned a lot, so > that it only really has the code needed for building the xserver > and a few libs that need modifications from the base XFree86 4.x > install - this is what's causing the problem. Actually, I think the problem

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread David Johnson
>From: Gareth Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan? >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:05:13 -0700 > >Dacobi Coding wrote: > >> >>But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs >>

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Gareth Hughes
Dacobi Coding wrote: > > But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs > for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs complete > with V/P Shaders and TL? Did they ever release specs for the original Radeon? No. One would guess the same policy will apply in this case

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
On Thursday 27 September 2001 19:55, you wrote: > Dacobi Coding wrote: > > Hello people! ... > > Not to say that ATI won't switch to a binary-only driver as well, but > anyway... But are they planing to, or have they allready releaced the specs for the new Radeon chips? And I mean full specs com

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Gareth Hughes
Dacobi Coding wrote: > Hello people! > > I was just wondering, what's the plan regarding > Radeon 8500 DRI support? > > I been hearing rumors about ATI switching to > a unified driver structure much like Nvidia's. > Can anyone verify wether this is true or not, > and if it is true, how it wil

[Dri-devel] Re: Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dacobi Coding wrote: >I was just wondering, what's the plan regarding >Radeon 8500 DRI support? The Radeon 8500/7500 drivers for 2D were just recently commited to CVS. They work at least in my limited testing. >I been hearing rumors about ATI switching to >a unified driv

[Dri-devel] Re: Dri-devel XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 (DRI trunk) - revisited

2001-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Frank Jacobberger wrote: >> /* >> * The following changes are required in order to disable gcc's new >> * 'merge-constants' optimization, because the XFree86 module loader is >> not >> * yet aware of the new ELF sections it produces, and will cause module >> * loading to fail

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dacobi Coding wrote: > Hello people! > > I was just wondering, what's the plan regarding > Radeon 8500 DRI support? > > I been hearing rumors about ATI switching to > a unified driver structure much like Nvidia's. > Can anyone verify wether this is true or not, > and if it

[Dri-devel] Radeon 8500, what's the plan?

2001-09-27 Thread Dacobi Coding
Hello people! I was just wondering, what's the plan regarding Radeon 8500 DRI support? I been hearing rumors about ATI switching to a unified driver structure much like Nvidia's. Can anyone verify wether this is true or not, and if it is true, how it will affect the DRI project? -Jaco

Re: [Dri-devel] No Subject

2001-09-27 Thread Michael Lincoln
David Dawes wrote: >On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:37:38PM +0200, Alexander Stohr wrote: > >>>From: Angel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> >In a solution to this i decided to upgrade to >the DRI-CVS, however when making World it ends with the >following error. >/usr/i386-slackware-li