[e-gold-list] Scottish Free Banking

2001-05-30 Thread Ben Legume
I'd be interested in how much of the private Scottish money turned out to be bogus (either counterfeit, or being issued by the 18th century equivalent of Romanian scammers)? It would be great in an ideal world, but given the problems with the existing fiat currencies, and the suspicions many

[e-gold-list] Re: Scottish Free Banking

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
I'd be interested in how much of the private Scottish money turned out to be bogus (either counterfeit, or being issued by the 18th century equivalent of Romanian scammers)? almost none humans are great at doing things to make money. the companiess issuing the currency could only make

[e-gold-list] Re: Two New Bars Purchased.

2001-05-30 Thread SnowDog
Their position, whichever it is, is certainly justifiable. Interesting way to put it... You agree no matter what the position is, is that what you mean by that? Eric Yes, certainly! E-Gold will work, either way, regardless of whether they allow third-party bailment. ---

[e-gold-list] Re: Two New Bars Purchased.

2001-05-30 Thread SnowDog
My guess is that he means no matter what their position, it is justifiable. If e-gold decides to disclose who bailed in the gold, then they can provide 'proof' that bailment of metal is actually more than just a contractual agreement which is much ballyhooed but rarely, if ever, tested.

[e-gold-list] Re: cross between gold currencies (FAGWANEs?)

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 30 May 2001, at 0:08, Viking Coder wrote: Has anybody actually tried to bail gold into GoldMoney yet? (fooled you didn't I) It is a good bet to suggest that goldfingercoin.com has.For sure Fidelitrade has. Claude --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To

[e-gold-list] Re: FAGWANE

2001-05-30 Thread Steve Foerster
JP wrote: Does anyone have a good term for e-gold like entities? What about fungible actual gold, with agio, no encumberances (FAGWANEs). What happens to the agio part when a system without a storage fee deploys? Viking referred once or twice to GBC for gold based currency, which is

[e-gold-list] crypto -bullion -- authentication via crypto

2001-05-30 Thread David Hillary
This post is hard to title. It relates to: 1. the claimed 'asset' status of goldmoney 2. what it really means to own and hold gold as an asset and 3. how crytography might enable a gold currency to be a true asset currency Goldmoney claims to be 'unique' in that holdings of goldgrams are title

[e-gold-list] Re: crypto -bullion -- authentication via crypto

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 29 May 2001, at 23:28, David Hillary wrote: Goldmoney claims to be 'unique' in that holdings of goldgrams are title to the actual gold in the holding, rather than a currency backed by a holding. This is simply not the case, as the owner of 1 gg simply cannot take his holding out and

[e-gold-list] Re: Scottish Free Banking

2001-05-30 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Good Morning List For the archives, containing a blurb on Forgery here is your Scottish Free Banking FYI History post: Scotland has one of the longest history of issuing paper currency. All Scottish notes are redeemable irrespective of age. Even if a bank no longer trades today its

[e-gold-list] Re: FAGWANE

2001-05-30 Thread Viking Coder
Steve wrote What happens to the agio part when a system without a storage fee deploys? I would be very wary of any GBC, or GBPS, system that doesn't charge a storage fee, yet claims to be 100% backed. Secure storage of tons of gold is nowhere near free. The money to pay these bills has to

[e-gold-list] W?

2001-05-30 Thread SnowDog
Strange looking W... http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: omni, egold, price, expliciticity

2001-05-30 Thread Rachel Willmer
--On 29 May 2001 09:19 -0400 C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 May 2001, at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apropos of my previous email, WHY would GoldMoney set a value on the current exchange rate between the metal gold, and french francs, us dollars or whatever?

[e-gold-list] Re: crypto -bullion -- authentication via crypto

2001-05-30 Thread David Hillary
- Original Message - From: C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: crypto -bullion -- authentication via crypto On 29 May 2001, at 23:28, David Hillary wrote: Goldmoney

[e-gold-list] Parker Bradley

2001-05-30 Thread Geoffrey Barnes
Any idea on how Parker is doing and when, if ever, he will return to 'the game'? Geoff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Shining Moon Creations Jewelry Accepts E-Gold

2001-05-30 Thread Paul Ewing
I would like to formally announce that Shining Moon Creations http://www.shiningmoon.com is accepting E-Gold as a method of payment. What better way to pay your jeweler than in gold? We design one-of-a-kind and exotic jewelry in sterling silver and gold using uncommon gemstones such as

[e-gold-list] Re: Possible virus alert

2001-05-30 Thread Privacy
It is a hoax, go to http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Thank you, Best Regards, MIKE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Possible virus alert

[e-gold-list] Something's missing

2001-05-30 Thread KPB
Not so long ago GSR still accepted wire transfer of funds for e-metal purchases. (minimum amount applied) Has this facility ended? Do we now have to pay the more or less exhorbitant rates the various moneychangers decree and if so, then is the number of moneychangers now also fixed? If not -

[e-gold-list] Re: W?

2001-05-30 Thread Bob
SnowDog wrote: Strange looking W... http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html Right. 7 down days in a row. And all the way down to 265. I'd call that government price manipulation. Looks like they still have dry powder. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as:

[e-gold-list] GoldMoney-E-Gold exchange?

2001-05-30 Thread Rachel Willmer
Anyone out there who'd like to exchange GoldMoney for E-Gold for me? I'll have the GoldMoney and would like to exchange it into E-Gold. I think it'll be about 200 GBP worth. Cheers Rachel --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email

[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
Any idea on how Parker is doing and when, if ever, he will return to 'the game'? Parker seems to be fine. I had loaned him a couple hundred grams of gold, short term, before the whole raid business, and he paid me and so on with no problems. I think the real problem is very simply that his

[e-gold-list] Re: W?

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
SnowDog wrote: Strange looking W... http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html Right. 7 down days in a row. And all the way down to 265. I'd call that government price manipulation. Looks like they still have dry powder. Bob you know its just so volatile

[e-gold-list] Re: W?

2001-05-30 Thread Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All those incredible upward spikes you see on that chart particularly october's one, suggest a lot of upwards pressure. Right. And interest rates have been steadily above average for the last 3 months. http://www.kitco.com/lease.chart.html But I expect it'll be a

[e-gold-list] a cadillac in Wales?

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
http://bananagold.com/cars.html only one more free gram of gold to be given away! get that sticker on your car!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: omni, egold, price, expliciticity

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 30 May 2001, at 23:34, Rachel Willmer wrote: GoldMoney do allow you to specify a price in GBP/USD etc when you're using their merchant interface. You are right. But they specify very clearly that the merchant can calculate his payment in grams using his own exchanges rates if he does

[e-gold-list] Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread mcffoster
The way we have to fund our e-gold or osgold accounts is like going to our personal bank them telling me to go o my local gas station(market maker) within 24 to 48 hours they may (or may not)- for a mere 10% of your deposit amount - deposit the balance in said bank. That way they wouldn't need

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 30 May 2001, at 21:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you from a layperson's point of view, the charges incurred just to deposit money into e-gold or osgold accounts is so expensive that it becomes a HUGE deterent to use your services. MCF, The 10% fees you suggest is certainly way

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread SnowDog
The 10% fees you suggest is certainly way above the average. Many exchange providers have rates at 5% and below. I suggest you shop around. Make sure you stop at GoldCurrencies. You will also find that some exchangers will BUY your e-gold for a premium, of up to 2%. So the spread, for those

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread Eric J. Gaither
MCF, I have one comment: It is rather COSTLY to be an Exchange Service Provider (or Market Maker, Exchange Agent, Cambio, etc.) due to the fees assessed by the banks, the gold currencies, and paying a staff's wages. Then there are taxes, insurance, and buying gold up front by bank wire.

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread Julian Morrison
Eric J. Gaither wrote: MCF, I have one comment: It is rather COSTLY to be an Exchange Service Provider (or Market Maker, Exchange Agent, Cambio, etc.) due to the fees assessed by the banks, the gold currencies, and paying a staff's wages. Then there are taxes, insurance, and

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 30 May 2001, at 21:04, SnowDog wrote: The 10% fees you suggest is certainly way above the average. Many exchange providers have rates at 5% and below. I suggest you shop around. Make sure you stop at GoldCurrencies. You will also find that some exchangers will BUY your e-gold for

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread Julian Morrison
Eric J. Gaither wrote: Julian, Agreed, however, people already complain if their accounts are not funded within HOURS of making a payment. Asking them to wait days Making it upfront - calling it something like SlowCheapGold and saying we guarantee delivery within ONE MONTH of

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 30 May 2001, at 21:33, Eric J. Gaither wrote: I am sure I am not the only one who will tell you...its an unpopular job being an Exchange Service Provider. Indeed, especially when you fund the account of one of your customer and gold drops $10 between the time of funding and the time

[e-gold-list] being an MM is tough

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
Julian, Agreed, however, people already complain if their accounts are not funded within HOURS of making a payment. Asking them to wait days I am sure I am not the only one who will tell you...its an unpopular job being an Exchange Service Provider. That's for sure. I urge all

[e-gold-list] egold .. bank

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
Indeed, especially when you fund the account of one of your customer and gold drops $10 between the time of funding and the time your customer check his account. You can be sure he will ask you questions ? Claude Perhaps someone could establish essentially a BANK that holds, clear, USD funds.

[e-gold-list] last free gram!!!

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
http://bananagold.com/cars.html that's an incredible collection of photos. Boats, guns, Estonia (where the hell is that anyway?) .. all over the world. Paul from texas gets the last free gram of gold...for now anyways. Go e-gold! http://bananagold.com http://bananagold.com

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread Gerardo S. Esguerra
On Wed, 30 May 2001, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: The 10% fees you suggest is certainly way above the average. Many exchange providers have rates at 5% and below. I suggest you shop around. Make sure you stop at GoldCurrencies. Yes, but such low rates are only for really BIG

[e-gold-list] Re: FAGWANE

2001-05-30 Thread Andrew McMeikan
Perth Mint (perthmint.com) has unallocated storage with no agio, but a fee for re-issuing ownership certificates whenever the amount has to change. http://perthmint.com/depository/pmcp/product.shtml I really need to go and visit these guys and see how hard it is set up. I am however thinking

[e-gold-list] Re: Putting money into e-gold or osgold accounts

2001-05-30 Thread Viking Coder
Gerry wrote Yes, but such low rates are only for really BIG deposits, like minimum $2000! I'm not in that league. Many exchange providers really do offer rates that low, even for a US$20 exchange, as long as you don't try to pay for the exchange with a credit card. Gaithman's offers a 5%

[e-gold-list] egold for CASH!

2001-05-30 Thread jpm
Gerry wrote Yes, but such low rates are only for really BIG deposits, like minimum $2000! I'm not in that league. Many exchange providers really do offer rates that low, even for a US$20 exchange, as long as you don't try to pay for the exchange with a credit card. Gaithman's offers a 5%