[e-gold-list] property on the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Robert, At least he has a claim in accordance with the Terra (Luna?) Nullis rules used to establish ownership of otherwise unclaimed and uninhabited land. I'm not familiar with this "terra nullis" (nullus?) convention. Maybe you could offer a citation? There are a number of interesting conve

[e-gold-list] RE: retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 01:56 AM, Ian Green wrote: When he goes there and asserts his claim, then I will give more consideration to his claim, but not because of any powers of "the land office." Does that office derive its powers from a government that does not exist? Right, ownership of

[e-gold-list] Re: initiatory force vs. retaliatory force

2003-10-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:25 PM 10/13/2003 -0400, Hannibal Smith wrote: One can prefer to pay the 10% voluntarily, but then the disadvantage is thatsome people may cheat. You stated previously that 10% inflation (or whatever number the state planners decide is best for "the general welfare") is great for economic g

[e-gold-list] RE: retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Ian, When he goes there and asserts his claim, Dennis is a pretty determined guy. I think his idea of selling land on the Moon in order to pay for his trips to the Moon is very clever. He also offers to put stuff on the Moon for a fee. He has some other hot business ideas but mum's the wor

[e-gold-list] RE: retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Ian Green
Hi Jim, When he goes there and asserts his claim, then I will give more consideration to his claim, but not because of any powers of "the land office." Does that office derive its powers from a government that does not exist? Regards, Ian Green --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list a

[e-gold-list] Is LondonGoldExchange alive?

2003-10-13 Thread Stanislav Knyazev
It has been more than two weeks (11 business days) since I requested a wire transfer. The last response I got from Andy was made last Wednesday (September 8). Money are still somewhere but my account, despite multiple e-mail and fax inquiries. Does anyone know if their mail server is really back?

[e-gold-list] solarpay?

2003-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[e-gold-list] E-bay sales

2003-10-13 Thread Ben Legume
It's been a while since I had an e-gold customer for one of my auctions on ebay As Ebay is threatening to review my power seller status, I have listed LOADS of items (with new ones every day) at most reasonable pricesCDs...DVDs...Videos...Books...Cards... http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/

[e-gold-list] Re: retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
At least he has a claim in accordance with the Terra (Luna?) Nullis rules used to establish ownership of otherwise unclaimed and uninhabited land. If the claim would stand in an International tribunal context is questionable. However, it maybe likely that there would be some kind of compensation,

[e-gold-list] retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Ian, Now, just a minute! purporting to sell one and ten acres lots on the moon! This guy bases his claim on something he lodged with some kind of office in San Francisco that obviously also does not have a right (of ownership) to confer on this fellow. You must be talking about the Lunar Emba

[e-gold-list] Re: initiatory force vs. retaliatory force

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Hannibal, Yet you're fine with this, and refer to the action of protecting one's rightful property from thieves as 'cheating'. Thanks for rising to the call on this one. I've left you a little something in yer tipjar. Go A-Team! Say hi to BA and especially Murdock. What is the Matrix? Than

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
Jim, > Yes, well, Robert, it seems that cyberica is their domain > registry provider. As mentioned, we even host them. I tried to be a nice about it and tell v2Gold between the lines to contact us directly to get the site shut down. I thought that as programmers they would know by then that we a

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
Actually the site has been suspended about 30 minutes ago, after we had a look to see if they had the v2Gold scripts stored on the machine (which they didn't) and found the trojans. Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net e-commerce & e-business services http://ww

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Robert, If not, then I guess you need to contact their hosting provider to get them shut down. Yes, well, Robert, it seems that cyberica is their domain registry provider. (see below) The hosting provider is presently onlinens.com which is related to "Deep Sleep Technologies," Jake Yusim, 29

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
Hello Ian, I am still waiting for a formal complaint from v2Gold. I tried to nicely hint what he was supposed to do, because the site is hosted with us. You know we don't get involved unless there is a reason. My post suggests that if v2Gold complained TO US, then I would have the reason to suspend

[e-gold-list] $32,000 per ounce

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Robert, However, the US alone has flooded the planet with paper, and if anyone was to exchange the paper (and the bank balances) from US currency to gold, then the exchange rate would be a high multiple of today's market price. Yes. This figure is about $32,000 per ounce. If every dollar no

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Katz Global Media
www.blue-market.com is a scam 100% We have found out that this site is loading two key logger trojans and has been using exploits to gain access to your computers today. The script sale thing was a ploy to get people onto this site and access your computer passwords. WARNING to all who have visi

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Ian Green
You can't sell something you don't own, just like the company in America that has a reseller in Queensland (Australia) purporting to sell one and ten acres lots on the moon! This guy bases his claim on something he lodged with some kind of office in San Francisco that obviously also does not have a

[e-gold-list] Re: initiatory force vs. retaliatory force

2003-10-13 Thread Hannibal Smith
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 09:49 PM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: I suggested nowhere that paper money should be imposed on people. So, your judgement was based on assumptions. [...] What previous position? You are still welcome to quote me on that 'previous position' This position: On Tuesd

[e-gold-list] Do youi want e-gold traffic?

2003-10-13 Thread Webmaster
At www.fantasytokens.com we are converting a hight number of surfers to e-gold. We have created a links page for our members to learn about e-gold and explore other e-gold related sites. If you would like to list your site go to www.fantasytokens.com, become a member (its free and anonymous), go

[e-gold-list] Re: initiatory force vs. retaliatory force

2003-10-13 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
Jim, > There is a difference between initiatory force and > retaliatory force. Since your paper money was being > imposed on the workers, I felt they should have a > trial and examine whether they would be better off > with you strung up from a lamppost. I suggested nowhere that paper money s

[e-gold-list] Re: Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
Now, it could be that the owner of the site actually bought the reseller rights from you under his own name? If not, then I guess you need to contact their hosting provider to get them shut down. Of course, you are cheaper anyway, so why would anyone buy from them? Cheers, Robert. budget & priv

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[e-gold-list] Prevent FACE reseller right, HOW?

2003-10-13 Thread v2Gold Ltd.
Dear, This company: http://www.blue-market.com is selling our scripts but it seems that they DON'T have reseller right. How to prvent them? Also, I see that line at their site: "Please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for reseller rights or inquiries concerning our software" We do not sel

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-13 Thread Robert B.Z.
George, Actually the title refers to the argument by paper advocates that there might not be enough gold on the planet to facilitate all the daily transactions, international trade, etc, and that hence a liquidity crisis would follow if gold was used ad only denominator of exchange. Most here on

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-13 Thread FileMatrix
Robert, the very title of this topic says "The Myth", so I have to assume there is enough gold in the world to allow everybody to exchange their paper for gold (as long as the governments didn't print more than its worth). Patrick, now I understand why you want to pay your taxes in gold: you want

[e-gold-list] Re: outside eBay countries

2003-10-13 Thread Julie Donska
>The auction part of ebay isn't the important part, though. The >reputation aspect is the key part James, Clearly we are talking about two different things. I am talking about selling goods via Internet and how some of our clients cannot get easy access to Ebay and there are (yet?) no other alt

[e-gold-list] Re: outside eBay countries

2003-10-13 Thread James M. Ray
Julie Donska wrote: ... And because there is only a small minority of people who have trouble with Ebay, alternative services are in a very difficult position - we have all seen auctions popping up during the 98-00 period, who remembers them now? The auction part of ebay isn't the important part

[e-gold-list] Re: outside eBay countries

2003-10-13 Thread Julie Donska
> People find it convenient to do business on Ebay, because way > back at the beginning, the owner of ebay created an efficient > and convenient reputation management system, which stored > information about people's reputations on his computers. I think you are not addressing the main advantage

[e-gold-list] must reflect the past

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear George: Patrick, why is this "redeeming" word so important? I think Robert Ziegler and Patrick have both dealt with redemption. Redemption is important, and distinct from exchange. Or maybe you're saying it is illegal (now) for people to own gold in USA (so, they can't exchange it)?! The eve

[e-gold-list] Re: outside eBay countries

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear James, People find it convenient to do business on Ebay, because way back at the beginning, the owner of ebay created an efficient and convenient reputation management system, which stored information about people's reputations on his computers. Okay. There is something similar on GoldBarter

[e-gold-list] Re: Islamic banking

2003-10-13 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Robert, I guess that means you'd like to outlaw outlawing :o) No, not at all. That would be completely pointless. But as you say yourself, ursury is morally highly questionable. I think it is. I also think it is pointless to legislate morality. And as the increasing absence of moral values