Dear All:
I thought the following article concerning construction &
reconstruction of "knowledge" and imperialism might spark some
discussion on the list. I also thought some of you might find it
applicable to your research. Any thoughts on this?
Apologies for its length, but I thought it w
In a message dated 98-09-08 00:34:43 EDT, you write:
<< You did offend this pagan on the list. The reason I turned to paganism (and
by extension from that belief to eco-feminist thought) was that it stressed
the absolute connection between earth and spirit, and personal
responsibility for acti
I did not realize that ecofeminists supported terrorists!
Bertina
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Richard Twine wrote:
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> Joe E. Dees wrote:
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> > It is possible to be a secular humanist, a neopagan and an
> > ecofeminist all at once. I am such a person.
>
> I would think so. Thou
Yes there are nonspiritual people who also care about certain issues like
the environment, the rights of women and the need to educate children and
help those less fortunate.
Bertina
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 98-09-06 17:26:09 EDT, you w
Here I go supporting Joe again. Geez, cant people realize that there are
a plethora of issues out there that we arent going to all agree with and
leave it at that? Racism isnt humanist either (Doh!!) but doesnt mean that
I was offended by a nation that decided to utilize what they could to
combat
Very good Ecolady! Hip hip hoorah!
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 98-09-07 13:57:00 EDT, Richard writes:
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> << So, its down to beliefs for sure (ecological, profeminist,
> > *anti-racist* and anti-capitalist) but its also down to what you do in your
> everyda
Yes, I think I may denounce citizenship if Gingrich became president, and
I live in Georgia as well. A Republican on this listserv, how novel!
And some were upset to learn there are nonspiritualists on this listserv,
my, my!
Bertina
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Miguel Angel Ordorica w
Very well put again, Angela! Exactly so, I am far more concerned about the
pollution that comes from industry that have no limits in regards to the
environment than I do about international terrorism.
Bertina
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Oh come on -
I am an atheist and I also do not believe it is a good idea to say that
"no religion is good religion" it just isnt good for ME.
My 2 cents
Bertina
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Robinmcc wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> >Hi!
> >I t
Pagan as defined in the dictionary:
any person believing in more than one god or anyone not a muslim, jew or
christian. Being an athiest, I would be considered a pagan, so would
a buddhist, so would anyone who isnt one of the 3 stated above.
Bertina
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, will bas
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In a message dated 98-09-08 07:48:59 EDT, you write:
<< I think that spirit is always trying to tell us to do right and
that we don't listen very well. I don't think all pagans share this
particular belief, but all pagans believe in the spirituality of nature in
real and interactive way and ar
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From: Arlene Plevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:Re: Democracy!
Originally to:
I consider water, wind, wood, blood, etc.,...even DDT to be spirits.
And, in the "spirit" of Irigaray, I consider angels to be anything that
mediates between us, even down to the salt and peper shakers that some
stranger asks me to hand them across the booth backs in some grimmy
diner here in
Hi
About Paganism, There are many types of Pagans but since Pagans believe in
'more than one god' as the dictionary says. and athiests' believe that
there is no god or gods at all-- I would put Pagans and Athiests into 2
different catagories.
--Diana..
*
"Whereve
yes, but those weren't dumb questions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:38:36 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Democracy!
In a message dated 9/7/98 5:57:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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You are free & get all the benefits
Forwarding some good news!
Thanks - Angela
USA:
Home Depot says No To Purchase And Sales Of Old Growth Redwood Lumber
Rainforest Action Network, Greenpeace, Sierra Club
For More Information, Contact Mark Westlund [EMAIL
I think both can and must heal each other... healing is more effective
when it is a two-way street. I have learned that especially from my
practice of Reiki, a healing art which enlists the aid of "life force
energy" direct from its source.
I too consider myself a pagan... maybe more a neo-paga
> Jake A Paisain "But if people keep disrespecting me because of what's
> between my legs I'm gonna quit this list."
>
> ++Gosh Jake, if men don't start treating me as an equal and if men don't stop
> assuming that because I have breasts and can have babies that I am a second
> class citizen to
>
> Oh come on - we live in a Democracy - we are a lot freer than a lot of people
> in this world - just stop capitalism and globalization of trade from spreading
> like a poison oak up our trees! It breeds greed and worship of $! Keep
> spraying some humanism and love around - That's what we
It was YOU who were being racist by ignoring the hundreds of
African-Americans killed and thousands injured in the Bin Ladin
planned and financed truckbombings of the two embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania. Anyone disagree here?
Umm...Many Africans were killed Joe, not African-Americans...
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> You are free & get all the benefits of our society IF you can afford them &
> I'm not talking about taxes. There is a vast lower class in our society that
> doesn't remotely benefit from this so called democracy. besides considering
> the vast maj
On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Candi Chruchill wrote:
> I disagree. Sexism and Racism do not have the "same" root. Male supremacy
> does not oppress all people of color, nor does white supremacy oppress all
> women. The root of sexism lies in male privilege and domination. The root
> of racism in whi
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Subject:RE: Why men batter women
Originally to:
In a message dated 9/8/98 6:36:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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You want the short list or the long one? while it varies by individual &
coven or circle basically The Goddess & her consort the God. Who are both
inextricable linked to the earth. After all in most of the pantheons many of
t
Dumb question> where in the H#!! do we get off telling other countries how to
run there politics when we can't even straighten out our own mess?
Sorry but in my book unless our backyard is sparkling clean & free of
oppression, crime, poverty & all the other problems we have we have no right
to ev
In a message dated 9/8/98 1:17:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<...I consider water, wind, wood, blood, etc.,...even DDT to be spirits.
And, in the "spirit" of Irigaray, I consider angels to be anything that
mediates between us, even down to the salt and peper shakers that some
stranger asks
In a message dated 9/8/98 4:28:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Pretty much! oh & who owned land/property. In catholicism women are
condemned from the get go. How ever there are many pagans out there who are
pagan cause they were raised that way (called family tradition) My faith is
base
On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, bunny wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I was just being sarcastic at Jake's whining and whinging comments. I didn't
> think anyone would take this seriously. Also, by leaving the planet, I did
> not mean suicide - I meant by space shuttle or with the aliens or whatever.
> M
Calling my di
Jake:
Were you the person who was posting the info about the buffalos? Do you
have any recent info or updates??
Thanks :)
kimberly
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From: Arlene Plevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 6
>In a message dated 98-09-08 07:48:59 EDT, you write:
>
><< I think that spirit is always trying to tell us to do right and
> that we don't listen very well. I don't think all pagans share this
> particular belief, but all pagans believe in the spirituality of nature in
> real and interactive way
Buffalo Nation's Activist Group webpage is located at
http://www.wildrockies.org/Buffalo
The WildRockies.org is an excellent resource too for the state of
environmental affairs in the Northern Rockies. The Alliance for the
WildRockies is an activist group based in Missoula.
In a message dated 98-09-08 17:15:05 EDT, you write:
<< The fact remains that most
people who claim to be christian don't practice it in the manner Jesus meant
but instead in the patriarchial sense he railed against.
Blessed Be;
Aedrienne
>>
I agree! That IS the problem!
Thanks and lo
In a message dated 98-09-08 19:47:25 EDT, you write:
<< Godis great
Godis good
Godis generally misunderstood
to be this thing or that thing
or something above
when the Word is a verb
and the verb is Love
will bason
>>
Hi! This is beautiful Will did you write it?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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thanks jake! :)
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> From: Jake A Paisain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Buffalo Nations
> Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 6:56 PM
>
>
> Buf
>
>As far as the dictionary definition of 'pagan' goes, I think a lot of
>pagans would scoff at the dictionary itself. It can also be an oppressive
>patriarchal tool...
Yes! The dickshunary is industrialization of the language when it had been
much more organic before. Froze the language in a l
Well thanks Ms. dictionary, but Christians and believers usually are the
ones to spout out who they think are the pagans not the nonbelievers.
Bertina
On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, LONERGAN DIANA LOUISE wrote:
> Hi
> About Paganism, There are many types of Pagans but since Pagans believe in
> 'more than
Jake we dont need seperatism on this listserv (coming from me -how
shocking!) so refrain from trying to rile up the nonpagans on this list!
Bertina
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Jake A Paisain wrote:
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> I think both can and must heal each other... healing is more effective
> when it i
Not Americans but American supporters, allies, friends of Americans and
Western ideas.
Bertina Miller
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Candi Chruchill wrote:
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> It was YOU who were being racist by ignoring the hundreds of
> African-Americans killed and thousands injured in the Bin Ladin
>In a message dated 98-09-08 19:47:25 EDT, you write:
>
><< Godis great
> Godis good
> Godis generally misunderstood
> to be this thing or that thing
> or something above
> when the Word is a verb
> and the verb is Love
>
> will bason
> >>
>Hi! This is beautiful Will did yo
On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> The answer to this question is YES I would still love them - In my book - any
> love is good love!
Yeah!
AND I never usually do things by the book - I am
> extremely liberal and open-minded and open-hearted - I do not feel that I
> would have
I have to admit this is a fantasic poem (?) statement (?). Thanks Will, for
sharing it with us.
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From: will bason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: pagan
>>In a message
Ah, I consider environmental terrorism to be a) that the oil fields etc.
of Kuwait were set on fire as part of that war b) that the average
American---according to Worldwatch Institute--uses as much natural
resources as 400 (or more!) Kenyans c) that industry based (and
supported) in the US ofte
Jake was not whining, as far as I am concerned. Why shouldn't anyone take
what you say seriously, bunny? Jake expresses something which concerns
him, a valid assessment, and your response is a joke?
Hmm. Arlene
On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, bunny wrote:
> > Jake A Paisain "But if people keep disrespec
Yes that would certainly be more along the lines of the EcoFem listserv
than what Bin Ladin did or didnt do.
Bertina
On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Arlene Plevin wrote:
> Ah, I consider environmental terrorism to be a) that the oil fields etc.
> of Kuwait were set on fire as part of that war b) that the
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