Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-25 Thread Jordan Justen
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Carsey, Jaben wrote: > You really need a third option like "I know how to use SVN and I don’t see > what the ROI on switching is"... > > Or point me to a tutorial and some ROI and I will change and support the > switch. To avoid an overwhelming (ie, complete) re

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Laszlo Ersek
On 02/22/13 12:14, David Woodhouse wrote: > If you and I each clone *today's* EDK2 tree and go off and do our own > sets of changes, then our work is pulled back into the tree (which has > moved on a little since then), we end up with the following topology > (newest at the top) > > o New HE

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Bjorge, Erik C
worth investigating. -Erik -Original Message- From: Andrew Fish [mailto:af...@apple.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:56 AM To: edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ... On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Patrick Georgi

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Andrew Fish
On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Patrick Georgi wrote: > Am 2013-02-22 17:59, schrieb Carsey, Jaben: >> Or point me to a tutorial and some ROI and I will change and support >> the switch. > Tutorials: Git has quite a vocal fanbase. Apart from being annoying at > times, they provide tons of tutoria

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Jordan Justen
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Cameron Esfahani wrote: > With all my complaints about git, I'll still use it. I'm not stupid, it's a > useful tool. Hmm, I get the sense that I may have marked you down in the 'do not want git' category to quickly (see bottom of): https://sourceforge.net/apps/m

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 2013-02-22 17:59, schrieb Carsey, Jaben: > Or point me to a tutorial and some ROI and I will change and support > the switch. Tutorials: Git has quite a vocal fanbase. Apart from being annoying at times, they provide tons of tutorials and documentation, eg. http://git-scm.com/book and for tra

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Carsey, Jaben
.org] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:30 PM To: Cameron Esfahani Cc: edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ... On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 21:08 -0800, Cameron Esfahani wrote: > Well, I'll offer my two cents then: I mostl

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 12:26 +, Ryan Harkin wrote: > I don't recall using "git show" before so I was curious what it was. > Basically, it's "git log -1 -p". … > I don't ever see a *need* for git show, although now that I know it > can save me a bit of typing, I might start using it. I think 'g

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Harkin
On 22 February 2013 11:14, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:17 -0800, Cameron Esfahani wrote: >> Oh, I'm serious. >> >> Don't take my dislike of git to mean that I don't think we should >> consider the proposal to migrate edk2 away from svn to git. If the >> consensus is to switc

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-22 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:17 -0800, Cameron Esfahani wrote: > Oh, I'm serious. > > Don't take my dislike of git to mean that I don't think we should > consider the proposal to migrate edk2 away from svn to git. If the > consensus is to switch, don't let me stand in the way. Thanks for clarifying

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-21 Thread Cameron Esfahani
Oh, I'm serious. Don't take my dislike of git to mean that I don't think we should consider the proposal to migrate edk2 away from svn to git. If the consensus is to switch, don't let me stand in the way. What follows is my rant against git. Please skip if you don't care. Git has one amazing

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 21:08 -0800, Cameron Esfahani wrote: > Well, I'll offer my two cents then: I mostly avoid projects that use > git. Seriously, or were you just messing with me? I've never heard that before, although I was very serious about avoiding projects in Subversion. I'm just too used

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 02/12/2013 04:20 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 11:11 +, Grant Likely wrote: >> >>> This mismatch generally makes sharing changes/trees more difficult, >>> and thus is a point in favor of git vs. git-svn. >> >> s/more difficult/impossible/ The git mirrors become basicall

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Ryan Harkin
Great discussion :-) On 12 February 2013 11:11, Grant Likely wrote: > On Feb 1, 2013 Jordan Justen wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin >> wrote: >> > Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: >> > http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=mirror/edk2/edk2.git;a=summary >> >> Andrew

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 2013-02-12 17:29, schrieb Jordan Justen: > If EDK II were to change to git, I would vote for github hosting to > be > the primary location. Then again, moving the main tree location would > be much less traumatic with git so, this choice would not be as big > of > a deal as today. And if it we

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Grant Likely
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Grant Likely wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Jordan Justen wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Grant Likely >> wrote: >>> On Feb 1, 2013 Jordan Justen wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin wrote: > Linaro mainta

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Grant Likely
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Jordan Justen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Grant Likely > wrote: >> On Feb 1, 2013 Jordan Justen wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin >>> wrote: >>> > Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: >>> > http://git.linaro.org/git

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Jordan Justen
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Grant Likely wrote: > On Feb 1, 2013 Jordan Justen wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin >> wrote: >> > Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: >> > http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=mirror/edk2/edk2.git;a=summary >> It looks as though they a

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 11:11 +, Grant Likely wrote: > > > This mismatch generally makes sharing changes/trees more difficult, > > and thus is a point in favor of git vs. git-svn. > > s/more difficult/impossible/ The git mirrors become basically > read-only w.r.t. the mainline tree. You cannot

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-12 Thread Grant Likely
On Feb 1, 2013 Jordan Justen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin > wrote: > > Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: > > http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=mirror/edk2/edk2.git;a=summary > > Andrew, > > While I agree with you that git-svn is a great thing for working with >

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:23 +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote: > On 02/02/13 00:17, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > My own commits no longer exist in the form > > that I made and tested them; they get committed on top of whatever > > *other* work happened in the SVN tree before I finally got them merged. >

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Cameron Esfahani
Well, I'll offer my two cents then: I mostly avoid projects that use git. That's the problem with anecdotal data... Cameron Esfahani di...@apple.com On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:35, David Woodhouse wrote: > FWIW as a purely anecdotal data point, I *often* avoid projects that are > in Subversion. I'l

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Laszlo Ersek
On 02/02/13 00:17, David Woodhouse wrote: > My own commits no longer exist in the form > that I made and tested them; they get committed on top of whatever > *other* work happened in the SVN tree before I finally got them merged. I don't think you can avoid that with series sent to the list for r

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 12:15 -0800, Andrew Fish wrote: > > So I'd say my vote is: > 1) Move to git if we can preserve the metadata in svn. Yes, git can preserve all the data that SVN has. It's fairly much a no-brainer to move from running the git tree as an automated mirror of the SVN tree, to ju

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Brian J. Johnson
jljus...@gmail.com] > Sent: 01 February 2013 19:24 > To: Andrew Fish > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; David Woodhouse > Subject: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ... >... > I still think the community expressing their preference will be the >

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Andrew Fish
On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Jordan Justen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin > wrote: >> Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: >> http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=mirror/edk2/edk2.git;a=summary > > Andrew, > > While I agree with you that git-svn is a great thing f

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Jordan Justen
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Olivier Martin wrote: > Linaro maintains their own git-svn service: > http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=mirror/edk2/edk2.git;a=summary Andrew, While I agree with you that git-svn is a great thing for working with svn, here is another example of how git-svn is so clo

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:23 -0800, Jordan Justen wrote: > > The data we will never have is how many people avoid getting involved > in the project because it uses svn rather than git. I think if it were > possible to measure this, it would favor git compared to svn. FWIW as a purely anecdotal dat

Re: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Olivier Martin
Woodhouse Subject: [edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ... I guess we should have changed the subject on this thread a while back. :) I hope some people might look back over the "[PATCH] Fix broken IA32 Microsoft assembler code in QemuFwCfgLib." thread i

[edk2] Git as an svn alternative - was [PATCH] Fix broken IA32 ...

2013-02-01 Thread Jordan Justen
I guess we should have changed the subject on this thread a while back. :) I hope some people might look back over the "[PATCH] Fix broken IA32 Microsoft assembler code in QemuFwCfgLib." thread if they are interested in this discussion. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Fish wrote: > I do