Have you tried setting Config: TXG VCE to 3.0dB?
It did not solve the problem. But as I said, at least the recent
frimware has been much better.
vy 73 de toby
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Ordered with my K3/100 on 4th May 2007.
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Bob Cunnings wrote:
If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that
the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low
impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered
speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem.
There is still
did you use the line out ?? The Line Output
transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels
try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s
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Is that really so ?
If that's the case, then the design is poor..
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote:
did you use the line out ?? The Line Output
transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels
try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will
U want to hear nice ham audio?
Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr.
Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker.
Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply.
73
Charles Harpole
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Charles Harpole wrote:
U want to hear nice ham audio?
Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr.
Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker.
Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply.
There is nothing wrong with the K3 audio on the
Thanks to all who responded to this thread. It looks like the problem
is an R.pack on the KIO3 board and Elecraft are sending me a
replacement. I will update the reflector once I get that. And will add
this to the Wiki.
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Ideas are like rabbits. You get a couple and learn how to handle
I have built more than 200 K2's to date. Let me build one for you. My prices
are reasonable, and you receive a new radio with the options you want, ready to
play. Please respond directly to my email.
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Alan
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Your PC,
They are big transformers, if they are saturating there must be dc present. Is
there dc isolation cap in the circuit?
David
G3UNA
did you use the line out ?? The Line Output
transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels
try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no
1. I understand the tuning range can be set to either 75kHz or 150kHz.
My inclination is to go with the 75kHz range, for the slower tuning rate.
I went for the wider tuning range (I mostly operate 40 and 20 meters) and I'm
glad that I did. I find, for me, that the tuning rate is fine at the
They are big transformers, if they are saturating there must be dc present.
Is there dc isolation cap in the circuit?
David
G3UNA
Saturating is a popular phrase that means there is some problem I never
really looked at.
:-)
Sad but true.
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The KRX3 manual explains how to set parameters on the
second receiver,
including filter settings. The manual is available on the
Elecraft web
site. The quick answer is to use the BSET hold function
on the front panel
to configure settings in the second receiver and SUB to
enable the
I prefer the smaller tuning range, Dave. Makes for much easier
tuning. FYI, the advertised tuning ranges are only approximations.
Mine ended up at about 85 KHz, which is fine.
The internal tuner would be convenient. I use the external T1 tuner
instead, as it has the capability to
Just a thought here...
There are many fans for computers which have a thermal control for the
fan speed built in. I suspect it's just a temperature-variable resistor
in series with the power lead. This could be a viable alternative for
cooling of almost any thing which needs it, and these
Charles Harpole wrote:
U want to hear nice ham audio?
Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr.
Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker.
Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply.
73
Charles Harpole
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Welcome to the Elecraft Reflector Tom!
When RIT XIT are both turned off, the RIT control gives fast tuning
provided it is configured in the menu (VFO OFS = ON, set tuning rate
with VFO CRS). This latter setting is set per mode and can offer 5 KHz
tuning steps on SSB.
73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:52:30 +0100
From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K1: Advice on Options
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Dave
1. I find my K1 a bit coarse on tuning even when set to the 75 KHz
tuning range.
I have mine doing ~160KHz, and I like it just fine. I
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote:
did you use the line out ?? The Line Output
transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels
try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s
Having heard this several times I did some research:
Yes, it
After waiting for more than a year, hi
FYI
Ordered 07-23-2007
Katiegram 07-11-2008
Arrived today in Germany 08-06-2008 (UPS 2 days)
K3 S/N 1300 with KRX3, all factory-installed.
backordered KDVR3
Just made first 2 QSOs in CW and SSB...
Hope to hear u
73 Lothar, DJ8EW
Erding nr Munich
There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has
been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics.
The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I
used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation
with a friend. You can clearly see the
How about Palstar's offering?
http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php
Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI
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Bert Craig wrote:
How about Palstar's offering?
http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php
God that's ugly :)
73 Ian
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When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode.
I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change.
20 meters is 100% output on either sideband.
Suggestions?
Steve Ellington
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Looks more like an Air Freshener ::-)
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:17:33 +0100, Ian Maude wrote:
Bert Craig wrote:
How about Palstar's offering?
http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php
God that's ugly :)
73 Ian
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Run 2 of them with my K3 and they are superb.
Mike WA8EBM
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
How about Palstar's
On my K3, I've been using Midland Communication speakers. These speakers are
like the Motorola speakers N0SS recommends. I have two so I can use the AFX
feature of the radio.
I tried many speakers over the last several months. Various computer speakers
in all different types of variations.
I have a Sounds Sweet, it's bigger and uglier. :)
73
Tony W7GO
Ian Maude wrote:
Bert Craig wrote:
How about Palstar's offering?
http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php
God that's ugly :)
73 Ian
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I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which
adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt.
According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never
ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read
All of this is consistent with the K3 Manual which says:
| LIN OUT settings above 10 are usually not necessary,
| and can in some cases cause overloading of either the
| K3s output transformers or the PC soundcard inputs
| (typically on noise peaks). Either could degrade the
|
Hi Hi, and I chose not to suggest the Sounds Sweet speaker due to its
aesthetics. I thought the SP 30 better matched the Elecraft look. I do
love my Sounds Sweet audio for SSB though.
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For the benefit of W8JI ... saturation is a good description
of
the behavior. When adjusting the Line Out level above 1V
peak,
any single tone in the audio spectrum appears to be clipped
at the 1V level. Although this could be due to clipping in
the
audio amplifier, given the manual warning,
When the LINE OUT transformer issue was first being discussed on this
list I took a look at the data sheet for the device:
http://www.tamuracorp.com/clientuploads/pdfs/engineeringdocs/TTC-108.pdf
It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms).
Bob NW8L
On Wed,
Charles and All,
Any audio buff will tell you that you can substantially enhance a radio by
putting a better speaker on it! That holds true with the K3 as well. I use
a Sounds Sweet external speaker at home, and it does wonders for the audio
out, just like it does on every other radio I
I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout
described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood
the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to
line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is
I have K3 serial 925 for sale in th UK, If anyone is
interested in
avoiding the queue.
It is factory built with ATU, AM,FM, and 2.8khz ssb
filters fitted.
Cheers
Paul
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I just checked mine on 40 meters and all is normal. Output is the same for
ESSB on or off, USB or LSB. I used a mic plugged into the front of the
radio.
Don K7FJ
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100%
n4lq wrote:
I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about
which
adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt.
According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter.
I've been using the Kenwood adapter including footswitch since
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100, Stewart Baker wrote:
Is that really so ?
Yes. See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/FilterTestNotes.pdf
Jim K9YC
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Same here (the adapter, NOT the senior moment, hi!)
Kenwood adapter with Proset Plus and footswitch.
Works FB.
Glenn ON4WIX
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:48 PM
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I can confirm cca 20dB lower level of 3rd harmonics on front panel
phones output against rear panel line out. Main versus 3rd harmonics
is 50dB resp. 7OdB on line-out resp. phones output here.
Just tried with on-board sound card od my Dell workstation.
(using Spectran SW and output level
I've received my K3, factory built S/N 1299, with Sub Rcvr. this past
week and have been having fun with it Ordered in July 2007 and Rcvd 1
Aug 2008.
It took some time to get up and running. I have operated CW just fine..
Haven't tried other modes yet.
On 10 Mhz, it seems that the Sub Rcvr is
Hi Dave,
Push and hold the SUB key to LINK and UNLINK the VFO (toggle function).
73,
Frank - W6NEK
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I've received my K3,
And I just plugged in a Kenwood hand mike. Worked like a champ.
Robert K5PI
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I have a Sounds Sweet speaker also...does a nice job although somewhat
large. I think I paid wither $99 or $110 a while back after it was reviewed
in QST. I see it is at $160 now..not worth that much $ though, IMHO.
Tom
wb2qdg
k2 1103
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:14:51 -0600, Bob Cunnings wrote:
It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms
across 600 ohms).
This datasheet does not show a graph of distortion vs level vs
frequency, but it is specified for 300Hz - 3.5 kHz, and its
frequency response is specified at
On 10 Mhz, it seems that the Sub Rcvr is Linked to the Main Rcvr and I
can't seem to find any instructions on the Link command.
Hold SUB to toggle LINK/UNLINK
73,
Lyle KK7P
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Ok...Thanks guys. I'm convinced. Bob must have lost it. I think Elecraft
and
him need to have a little talk.
Steve Ellington
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I have a K3 for Sale, plus Lpan + EMU-202 USB EXternal Sound Unit.
Nothing is wrong with the rig, it plays well but I guess I just like the bigger
feel of something sitting on my desk top. That weighs 40 LBS more with a few
bigger knobs.
K3 Serial Number 775
Comes with External antenna input.
Buy the Heil directly from Elecraft ... it plugs nicely into the back
of the rig. Works great!
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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I found a pair of model 970A KLH speakers at Sears. They were $22.97 plus tax
for the pair. Each enclosure has three speakers. These are nice sounding,
good looking and are black matching the K3. These are 3 - way bookshelf black
textured plastic speakers. Power: use with 5 - 40 watt
Question
I may be missing this too but I still have no idea if I can
change the tuning rate of the clarifier knob. I've looked
around for it but can't seem to find anything.
If by clarifier, you mean the RIT/XIT knob, its tuning rate is the same as
the VFO tuning rate (FINE or COARSE).
In light of the Sherwood presentation referenced in the thread about K3
audio, I haven't seen much comment on the spectrum analyzer plot of the K3
transmit IMD. Is this still an artifact of the (now fixed) firmware error
mentioned by Eric earlier in this thread?
The K3 firmware used for the
I have just retired my IC-7800 for a K3. Should I keep my PR-780 and use it
with the K3? Anybody have this same set up? If so any suggestions regarding the
initial settings?
Thanks,
Dave, N2OGK
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I thought the problem had gone away however I discovered I had the ESS
option turned off instead. I need someone to test this. You must be on 40
meters, LSB in ESSB mode. Compare upper and lower SSB power outputs. I see
about 50% power in LSB. When I whistle in the mic, the power jumps quickly
Includes original box, instructions, leatherette travel case, 1/8 inch to
1/4 inch stereo adapter AND adapter cables for BOTH Kenwood and Yaesu (sold
for about $20 each at HRO - a bit less at other places). All items are in
exceptional condition.
This package is offered with both adapters for
I've been working on a little software project for the K3. I have much of it
done, but have hit a snag about filters. I cannot seem to understand or get
the commands for changing filters. All I want to do is change the filters from
FL1 through FL5. But, it is not all that easy because the
Yes - That firmware fix improved 3rd order TX IMD by 3-5 dB on the worst
case band (12M) and it is better than that on all other bands. We also
made other firmware changes in the gain of various stages to improve TX
IMD. Those changes have been in every firmware release for many months.
One
I have worked a few K3 owners recently and there seems to interest in an
informal get together on air on a weekly basis. I don't really like the
idea of formal net and I guess maybe others don't want a net controller
either (no I am not volunteering to be net control...).
How about Sunday
Hi Steve:
I just did the following test and got the same output from USB and LSB.
Using latest beta firmware. K3 #202. Filters: AM; 2.8k; 1.8k; 400 Hz; 200 Hz
ESSB enabled - 4.0 Bandwidth
Band - 40 M
Mic set at 12
Comp set at 24
Power set at 100
Mode LSB
2 Tone - ON
Tap XMIT
Power out to
I just converted one of my144 MHz home built pre-amps to 6 meters. I
have no test equipment other than listening to beacons but I can tell
you that it makes one hell of a difference in signals. I now can really
hear the noise floor. I am using a MGF-1302. The gain is probably
20dB but I
In addition to the KLH 970A at Sears (still available on-line
at $29.99), Sony SS-B1000 (pair) is often available at Radio
Shack or Best Buy in the same price range. Best Buy also has
a pair of Insignia brand speakers that appear to be identical
to the KLH 970A in the under $30 range.
The
Hello All,
I would caution all who listen to the advice from Heil. My experience with
them has been less than satisfactory to date.
Recently I spoke with them and discussed several options and I was advised
to purchase the Goldline dual element mic, holder, adapter and base. I
repeatedly asked
I'm using their Kenwood adapter with my Heil Goldline and it works
perfectly.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:33 AM
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i also see the same problem. i thought that for some reason the TXGN HP
setting was messed up. I checked this setting and confirmed it was ok. My K3
also shows the same symptoms on 40 meters.
Mike N8XPQ
n4lq wrote:
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about
I just made two basic samples using K3 and TS-850 using Firebox
external soundcard and Winrad SW.
You can see screenshot from K3 line-out audio on
http://www.ok1kei.org/K3_audio/line_out_firebox_winrad.jpg
This is K3 with 400Hz roofing filter on some stable carrier.
LINE OUT setting on level
We plowed this ground a while back.
It is a Kenwood adapter but if you buy the Heil/Elecraft mike, it has an
Icom element so you need to set the bias in the config menu. If you use a
regular Heil Goldline or other mike, you should not set the bias.
k4ia
Craig Buck
Fredericksburg, Virginia
Dave G4AON wrote:
I have worked a few K3 owners recently and there seems to interest in an
informal get together on air on a weekly basis. I don't really like the
idea of formal net and I guess maybe others don't want a net controller
either (no I am not volunteering to be net
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:26:06 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote:
I would be interested to know if anyone has tried other Heil mics and
discovered a better match for the K3.
The K3 is extremely versatile when it comes to microphones. Virtually
any good dynamic mic or unbalanced electret mic will work VERY
K4IA wrote:
We plowed this ground a while back.
It is a Kenwood adapter but if you buy the Heil/Elecraft mike, it has an
Icom element so you need to set the bias in the config menu. If you use
a
regular Heil Goldline or other mike, you should not set the bias.
I was beginning
Gary Gregory-3 wrote:
Hello All,
I would caution all who listen to the advice from Heil. My experience with
them has been less than satisfactory to date.
Recently I spoke with them and discussed several options and I was advised
to purchase the Goldline dual element mic, holder,
Tom McCulloch wrote:
I have a Sounds Sweet speaker also...does a nice job although somewhat
large. I think I paid wither $99 or $110 a while back after it was
reviewed
in QST. I see it is at $160 now..not worth that much $ though, IMHO.
Can't see the point in paying all that when
Gary Gregory wrote:
I do not question Heil Sounds quality in microphones, but I do question the
quality of audio produced from the Goldline Mics when connected to the K3.I
did try both elements of course. Perhaps they have a better mic for use with
the K3..?
You have a completely
I've always though the entire Heil thing was bunk They use the same little
element in all mics and the shape-size of the case gives them a little
different sound. They paint them gold and install them in large, empty metal
cases to help our ego.
I am now using a cheap computer headset and with
Hmmm, I understand my Heil PR 40, which is a balance output mike, will work
with the K3 if you get the proper cable for it. It works fine with my Orion
II but since the Orion uses the Yaesu wiring convention I need another cable
with the Kenwood wiring on one end and the three pin XLR connector
I am using a Heil Proset with my K3 and it definitely does require a Kenwood
pigtail adaptor. The Yaesu adaptor will not work. If Bob Heil said
otherwise I think he is wrong.
Bruce - W8FU
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I suppose it is very subjective but I have so far used both a Heil Proset and a
Gold line with my K3. I have consistently received good audio reports with
both. Both also sound very good in the monitor. I use no transmit EQ. I also
have a Heil PR 40 which I plan to try with the K3 after I
I have K3 #290 and I like to keep it updated. I have the latest K3 Utility
and currently have 2.02/1.77 which is the latest that I can find when using
the utility. The website says there is a K3 firmware release dated 7/22/2008.
How do I find it to download it? I have not downloaded any
Suddenly QTH.NET is bouncing messages to the elecraft reflector. Am I alone
in this issue?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks
Ron AC7AC
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Oops, it must be just the messages about K3 microphones. This worked but any
response to that thread didn't.
Guess the QTH.NET filter didn't appreciate my comment :-)
Tnx for the bandwidth.
Ron AC7AC
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Do you have AFX on and are you looking at I/Q (left/right) from
the K3? The capture - including the small spike directly between
the real and ghost signals looks like you are trying to process
an unbalanced I/Q signal with the resulting improperly nulled image.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
Now that I have a K3 I am using my K2 for portable QRP so I am changing
its configuration.
I am offering for sale a built and working KDSP2 for $220 postpaid in
the US (kit price is $229). If you live outside the US, shipping is
extra. This includes the manual and the headers and spacer
Hi Gang,
Here is the Readers Digest version of my repair. Bottom Line? The Max 1406
chip on the I/O board was toast and Don Wilhelm was instrumental in getting me
back on line.
On Friday evening of FD setup this year, my K2 (SN#543) worked FB and was
talking to the computer at the
Hello
Has anyone had any trouble with the bnc antenna connector on a K2?
Mine doesn't make contact with the antenna coax all the time. I can tell
by the receiver noise when it looses contact. I think it is probably doing
that when I am transmitting, but I have no way to tell except the swr goes
It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7
Vrms across 600 ohms).
Bob NW8L
But that doesn't mean it distorts or saturates. It is
simply a rating.
My K3 for example on a good Agilent selective level meter
starts to distort at -5dB reference to 1 milliwatt into 600
ohms.
I wasn't asserting that this means it distorts or saturates, but
merely reciting the rating given on the data sheet. I agree that it
should be perfectly adequate for interfacing with normal computer
sound card inputs as long as one didn't set the line out level too
high. It's fine here.
Bob NW8L
Scott,
IMHO, changing from a BNC to a UHF jack (SO239) would be a step
backwards. The SO239 requires that the connector be tight to produce a
reliable connection, BNC and type N connectors do not.
If the BNC connector on the K2 has been abused, it can lose contact at
the center pin, so you
Elecraft K3 front mic socket (8 pin) is basically Kenwood standard, but
Elecraft forgot to check the full pin-out and mistakenly reversed two
pins that are used only on Kenwood hand mics and others not usually
in the HF ham shack. Do beware of this fact. Altho it does not
affect the Heil
I'll see if I can join - bit early for me on a Sunday, but we'll see.
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On 6 Aug 2008, at 22:01, Dave
Oak Hills Research sells kit containing two very nice, quality
BNC chassis-mount female connectors with gold-plated pins.
The kit also comes with mounting plates and hardware to install
them in standard SO-239 holes. It's their part number OP-SB2
and sells for $7.50 for a pack of two.
I used
The specifications say 3% maximum audio distortion. With a little care the K3
will not distort to 3%. If the operator is allowed to produce issues by
being given more flexibility, is this a poor design? This level of
flexibility sounds like a good thing to me. Again good practice, as always,
is
The Heil Headset and the Hand Mike that I bought with
my K3 will not work on my TS-850 and the TS-850 mike
does not work on the K3. I have not yet investigated
the details.
Cookie, K5EWJ
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Elecraft K3 front mic socket (8 pin) is basically
Kenwood
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