Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc--- via Elecraft
While I do not endorse ESSB, it seems to me the dogs were let loose almost immediately. Doesn't this go against list guidelines? I don't understand why Eric let this go on. 73 Mike R Check out the QRZ app __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread Dennis Mills
STOP IT !! On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:11 PM, mikerodgerske5gbc--- via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: While I do not endorse ESSB, it seems to me the dogs were let loose almost immediately. Doesn't this go against list guidelines? I don't understand why Eric let this go on.

[Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Wassmann
I was the one who asked what I thought was a simple and logical question about the receive audio bandpass of the K3. Now after having page after page of lecturing me and others about the evils of ESSB, I am sorry for asking and disappointed in many of your responses to my question. Elecraft

[Elecraft] Mail list

2014-04-28 Thread Jay
Fellow Elecraft owners, It seems that about every 6 months or so I make my post to the list. My mail rules would work very well if everyone would use the suggested format for the subject line. I quote: 4b. When emailing about a specific rig or option, please add the rig/option name(s) to the

[Elecraft] K3 -- Spot band switching in HRD

2014-04-28 Thread Slava Baytalskiy
Hello everyone! I have a K3/HRD question: When using the DX cluster and the BandMap (the one with the vertical band display and all the call signs on the right of it) i'm able to switch bands by double-clicking on the spot in the cluster window. No matter what band the K3 is presently on. But

[Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
Hi, All the ESSB talk got me wondering about how accurate the P3 might be for measuring bandwidth. Could someone review my method for this outlined below and comment please: 1. Use ATT if needed to avoid very strong signals 2. Set bandwidth to 4 KHz. See note below. 3. Adjust Span on P3 5

Re: [Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
Larry, I have been totally polite to you, and everyone else in this interchange. I have politely asked you questions, (without adding prejudice to the question), and I have not gotten a single answer from you. I did get an answer from W0MU, and for that I am grateful, he and I disagree on the

Re: [Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
As an aside, I will only be answering this and other ESSB questions via direct email from now on... -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see:

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Alan Bloom
I believe that the P3 is tapped prior to any BW restrictions, Correct. I think the best way to measure an SSB signal's bandwidth on the P3 is to turn on peak hold. After a few seconds the spectrum display will show a pretty accurate picture of the spectral shape of the signal Alan N1AL

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO
'Bandwidth' is measured by specifying some number of dB that a signal is down at a particular offset from the center frequency. A measurement in Hz alone is therefore meaningless. I suspect that the number of dB needed to make the waterfall display of a signal disappear depends on various

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
Hello, Between Vic's, and Alan's answer I have what I need, thank you all!!! I can now measure bandwidth, and tell how many db down a signal is vs. it's width. Thank you gents! Peak hold, then measure! :) -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/28/2014 8:37 AM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote: What should work is to use the spectrum display of the P3. If you want to know, for example, the bandwidth of a signal at 30 dB down, you just find the points where the 'skirts' of the signal are 30 dB below the peak. This is easy to do on the

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 supplemental heat sink offering

2014-04-28 Thread fredem
Thank-you for your support. The last of the supplemental heat sinks of the current production is on its way to Sweden. I am now accepting pre-production orders for the next generation of Cooler KX heat sinks. Cheers, Fred. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, Your assumption is correct. The P3 should show you the true width of the signal. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/28/2014 10:08 AM, David Cole wrote: Hi, All the ESSB talk got me wondering about how accurate the P3 might be for measuring bandwidth. Could someone review my method for this

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
Jim, Thank you for the extended explanation, it helps! I want to be sure I understand the rig, the Panadaptor, and how they interrelate. THank you again! -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see;

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Of course it is. If you would understand that SSB is simply audio mixed up to R-F, you would not have this mistaken idea. We normally do it in two steps, audio to I-F, I-F to R-F, but that's all it is, a frequency conversion. Certainly, if you take a 2 KHz band of audio frequencies and run

[Elecraft] [P3] Fry's sale on Logitech keyboard

2014-04-28 Thread Jim N7US
Fry's has a special discount on the Logitech K360 wireless keyboard that is popular with the P3SVGA. http://www.frys.com/product/7938420?site=frys_promo_ecampaigndate:042814 The in-store price with the secret in-store $6 promo code is only $8. The code is 8313460, which came from their weekly

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Gentlemen, This thread is now closed. I apologize for not stepping in earlier, I was off-line most of the weekend. In general, please do not argue on the Elecraft list pro/con about various emission modes like ESSB, CW vs no-code, QRP vs QRO, Contesting etc and their appropriateness to

[Elecraft] kx3 foldback setting?

2014-04-28 Thread Reginald J Mackey SR
Is there a swr foldback setting in in the kx3? I can't find such. my friends kx3 keeps folding power back while swr is 1.1 or 1.2. I suspect it should not until at least 2.1. any help? Reggie k6xr __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] W2.exe Question

2014-04-28 Thread Chris Johnson
Is there a way to disable the W2.exe from scanning for W2. I have many virtual com ports on my computer, some of which are over the network, and it takes nearly one minute for it to timeout the scan on program launch. Is there any command line switches to make it not autoscan and try an

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
If you understood that if you have 3.0 kHz of IF and clip off some of the lows and some of the highs from the audio. It's not the same as only having 2.3 kHz of IF. Keith -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] kx3 foldback setting?

2014-04-28 Thread Matt VK2RQ
In that case, Rsther than SWR, the fold back is more likely due to low or drooping supply voltage. Could also be due to temperature, if you are running the radio hard. 73, Matt VK2RQ On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:14 am, Reginald J Mackey SR k...@icloud.com wrote: Is there a swr foldback setting in

Re: [Elecraft] W2.exe Question

2014-04-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chris, Go into Setup and select the port that you want to use for the W2. That selection should be sticky. Once that port is selected, it will not scan for eligible ports. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/28/2014 3:15 PM, Chris Johnson wrote: Is there a way to disable the W2.exe from scanning for W2. I

Re: [Elecraft] kx3 foldback setting?

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
Odds are it's PA temperature issue. I believe the power will roll back when 60 deg-C is reached. That should only happen in high duty cycle modes (digital, FM, etc.), not in CW or SSB. If he's getting roll back in SSB or CW there must be some other issue. 73, Phil w7ox On 4/28/14, 12:14

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 120, Issue 68

2014-04-28 Thread Dauer, Edward
Thanks, Eric; I had been hoping this would be policed and a reminder issued. I had no part in the discussion; but I must say that it was in some ways and on some contributors' parts a disappointing conversation. The problem is not simply that it takes up space and time, but more importantly

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/27/2014 9:26 PM, David Cole wrote: The legal issue will sort itself out. If ESSB does not have it's own emission definition, (one accepted by the FCC), and is classed with SSB, then it is not legal. Both conventional SSB and ESSB have the same emission designator - A3J - when used for

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Bill Frantz
For a look at good bandwidth control, tune down into the AM broadcast band with the K3 and P3. Note that AM stations are powerful enough that you can receive them at the upper end of the broadcast band even without the extended receive option for the K3. When I tuned down there in the San

Re: [Elecraft] W2.exe Question

2014-04-28 Thread Michael Walker
No, it isn't actually. It scans all com ports when start up. I can see it when it starts up on my remote base. Even when you have selected a port. I actually want a smaller version of the W2 so that it just shows 2 bars. Call it a 'compact' mode view. Mike va3mw On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at

Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

2014-04-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Phil - This thread has been closed. Please see my earlier posting. 73, Eric elecraft.com On 4/28/2014 1:41 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 4/27/2014 9:26 PM, David Cole wrote: The legal issue will sort itself out. If ESSB does not have it's own emission definition, (one accepted by the FCC),

Re: [Elecraft] W2.exe Question

2014-04-28 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
Don maybe should have stated if you have a port selected that is available then it will not scan. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/W2-exe-Question-tp7588075p7588085.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

2014-04-28 Thread Joseph Baxley via Elecraft
Hi, I've been trying for the last four days to figure out what is wrong with my rig. I'm at Phase 2 Test and Alignment and got to testing the frequency of the VCO. It had a reading of 0. Also the voltage on R30 was 7.87V. This is consistent with the VCO not oscillating. The reference

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] How to measure bandwidth of RX signal

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/28/2014 8:57 AM, David Cole wrote: Between Vic's, and Alan's answer I have what I need, thank you all!!! I can now measure bandwidth, and tell how many db down a signal is vs. it's width. Thank you gents! As others will probably tell you as well, Occupied Bandwidth is defined as the

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Fry's sale on Logitech keyboard

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/28/2014 11:10 AM, Jim N7US wrote: Fry's has a special discount on the Logitech K360 wireless keyboard that is popular with the P3SVGA. That's a nice keyboard, but my fingers and brain demand one with the F-keys on the left side, the Ctrl and Alt keys straddling the left-side Shift key,

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Fry's sale on Logitech keyboard

2014-04-28 Thread Byron N6NUL
The only time I remember seeing keyboards with function keys on the left was the summer I interned at Boeing in the 80's, but you can still get buckle spring keyboards (with USB interfaces now) from http://pckeyboard.com/ 73, Byron N6NUL Sent from my iPad On Apr 28, 2014, at 17:44, Phil

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Fry's sale on Logitech keyboard

2014-04-28 Thread Jim Lowman
I, too, disliked it when the transition to AT-style keyboards, with all of the function keys along the top, was made. Unfortunately, after a while, my old original keyboard, and my wife's, gave out and we had to adjust. My first professional programming jobs involved using the good-old IBM

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Fry's sale on Logitech keyboard

2014-04-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
Right you are! I think this is what Phil (the other Phil, not this one!) likes: http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/PC122 73, Phil w7ox On 4/28/14, 6:10 PM, Byron N6NUL wrote: The only time I remember seeing keyboards with function keys on the left was the summer I interned at Boeing in

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

2014-04-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joseph, The first thing to check is T5. The direction of the windings is critical, and the leads must be in the proper holes as shown in the diagrams in the manual. In other words, the sense (direction) of the green wire turns on T5 must be the same as the direction of the red wire

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

2014-04-28 Thread Joseph Baxley via Elecraft
Don, Thanks for the reply.  I should have mentioned that I checked the windings on T5.  Pins 1 and 3 should be coming out of the top of the core, no?  That's what I have.  I also used the yellow core for the transformer.   Thanks, Joseph On Monday, April 28, 2014 8:43 PM, Don Wilhelm-4 [via

[Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out

2014-04-28 Thread K4ia via Elecraft
I am trying to set up the K3 Sub Rx audio to come out on the right Line Out. I hear nothing on that side. The Main Audio is fine on the left side. I can't find anything about a setting that would control this. I thought it would be automatic. Can someone point me in the right direction

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

2014-04-28 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Yes, leads 1 3 should come out the top of the core. However, you also need to make sure the windings are in the same direction, like in figure 6-16, otherwise you are applying negative instead of positive feedback, and the VCO won't oscillate. Also, make sure leads 1 2 are both red, and go

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating

2014-04-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joseph, Yes, leads 1 and 3 should be coming out of the top of the core, but the leads must look like the illustration on page 56 of the manual, the green wires must not cross over each other, but be wound between the red wires. You can check with the internal counter probe or the RF Probe

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out

2014-04-28 Thread Stan Gibbs, KR7C
Can you hear the subrx in the headphones or speaker? - 73, Stan - KR7C -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Sub-RX-audio-to-right-Line-Out-tp7588094p7588097.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.