Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery - UPDATE

2017-11-24 Thread stan levandowski
Howard, I received the core and the replacement choke earlier today. I put the core on the 25' RG174 feedline right at the 9:1 UNUN and was able to wind 10 turns.  Then I connected a 33' counterpoise wire to the output BNC using a hose clamp.  This was just a quickie "temporary" installation

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-24 Thread Wes Stewart
I don't RV anymore but when I did my 5th wheel came with a charger made by Todd Engineering, fortunately now out of business.  It was simply awful in terms of RFI.  In the analog TV days the RV parked outside the garage would interfere with low-band TV. I replaced it with one made by a local c

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-21 Thread Ignacy
How much noise from "warts" enters the antenna depends on the antenna. Close and low antenna will pick up more and high and far will pick up less or nothing. Also, balanced or with a good balun will pick up less than unbalanced or where KX3 is a counterpoise. Ignacy, NO9E -- Sent from: htt

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-20 Thread Gil Drynan
Just a note to comment on my experiences with RV 'converters'/battery chargers. I've had to put an AC switch in the input line to disable the "converters' noise. That solved the problem but sometimes an adjacent RV will provide me with noise. Gil W7GIL _

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-20 Thread JT Croteau
Thanks for address this thread Howard! 73 On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:35 AM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > Hi Stan, > > One thing we have learned in supplying thousands of Kx33s to hams is the > importance of minimizing or eliminating common-mode currents in the antenna > system. The transverse mode RFI o

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Josh
Noise can absolutely change with load. At light load the SMPS may enter a pulse skipping mode. Some keep pulse width constant and vary switching frequency with load to effectively change duty cycle. Most (all?) will continuously modulate the switching frequency over a small range to spread out t

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Edward R Cole
Up here in Alaska its not unusual to experience loss of commercial power (often due to Inclement wx or avalanche). I've noted how quiet my radio is when no one around us has power. Even running our 6500w Honda invertor-generator its very quiet (which also tells my noise is coming from neighbo

[Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Howard Hoyt
Hi Stan, One thing we have learned in supplying thousands of Kx33s to hams is the importance of minimizing or eliminating common-mode currents in the antenna system.  The transverse mode RFI output of the Kx33 is extremely low and has never been the cause of noise to our customers, but if the

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Doug Smith
I have often wondered if the noise from a switching power supply would vary in intensity or other characteristics as the load changes. For example, during transmitting. In a single transmitter environment the user would probably not notice but in a multi-transmitter or SO2R station one just mi

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Matthew Cook
Josh, You are quite correct. The usual CISPR standards limits for many SMPS designs are typically set to 50dBuV across the HF spectrum, that translates to roughly 5/9+17dB. These standards are there to protect your old analog TV and commercial FM radio being messed up not your local Ham operato

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Josh
Most, if not all of those certifications are for safety, not emissions. Further, I'm not at all convinced that compliance with FCC/CISPR standards ensures no RFI to a ham station. Especially if your interests are weak signal, EME, etc. 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > Just because

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
ally an Astron that Tentec did some work on. I think the one Elecraft sells is quiet. Bit, you really need to investigate before buying a switcher. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "rich hurd WC3T" To: "stan levandowski" Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent:

[Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Jim Allen
Before you throw the Samlex supply in the trash, have a look at http://w4kaz.com/images/fp1023/samlex_1223_rfi_mods_from_zl2df.pdf and several other mod schemes found on the web. 73 Jim Allen W6OGC Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailin

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread rich hurd WC3T
- > From: "rich hurd WC3T" > To: "stan levandowski" > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: 11/19/2017 7:31:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery > > >Wow. > > > >Going to try that. Thanks for this great po

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Stan, You're far from the only one, but I've been preaching this for many years.  Take a look at this piece that I wrote for National Contest Journal a year or two ago. http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf An important first move is to search out and destroy every switching power supp

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread stan levandowski
Yeah, me too.  I bought it because I thought it would be "super clean" and really small.  But its contribution to my problem was pretty much unarguable:  Plug it in and I hear noise.  Unplug it and I don't hear noise.  The instructions that came with it specifically stated that the Kx33 should

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Barry
buying a switcher. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "rich hurd WC3T" To: "stan levandowski" Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 11/19/2017 7:31:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery Wow. Going to try that. Thanks for this great

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread JT Croteau
I'm really surprised you had an issue with the KX33 supply. - JT On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:31 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: > Wow. > > Going to try that. Thanks for this great post. > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 19:23 stan levandowski wrote: > >> Most people on this Reflector are well educated and

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Wow. Going to try that. Thanks for this great post. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 19:23 stan levandowski wrote: > Most people on this Reflector are well educated and intelligent. > Apparently, I'm the exception because this one got by me. I'm only > owning up to this in the hope that it might help

Re: [Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
Great story, Stan. Now you know why the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3 all have data modes you can use without a computer :) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:23 PM, stan levandowski wrote: > > Most people on this Reflector are well educated and intelligent. Apparently, > I'm the exception because thi

[Elecraft] (OT) - Unplanned Discovery

2017-11-19 Thread stan levandowski
Most people on this Reflector are well educated and intelligent.  Apparently, I'm the exception because this one got by me.  I'm only owning up to this in the hope that it might help someone else on the Reflector.  For the last couple of years I've been bothered by a high background noise lev