[Elecraft] Bigger K3

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[Elecraft] Bigger K3 and New Review

2008-11-25 Thread Don Rasmussen
Wayne showed me a concept drawing of the original K3. It was everything you might expect, given the huge popularity of the K2. It just looked like a K2 plus and addressed some of the physical limitations of K2. It has a slightly bigger box, more memory, etc. The K2 was, based on many QRP desig

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-12 Thread K7TV
I just came across another situation where the K3 S-meter wasn't doing the job. Bought an MFJ noise canceller (works at receive frequency, using a separate noise pickup antenna). The reason that the purchase came about *now* was that, unlike my other rigs, the K3 has this wonderful RX antenna loop

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-11-04 Thread W6NEK
Jerry Flanders said: The K3 with PowerSDR panadaptor is the best pan system of all I have ever used, starting with the Heath panadaptor in the mid-'70's. and including all 4 radios of the 756 series. Jerry W4UK I agree fully and can add two more rigs to what Jerry already mentions above:

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-11-03 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 04:40 PM 10/30/2008, Julian, G4ILO wrote: Ralph Parker wrote: > > What I REALLY want is a stand-alone spectrum display (think 756 PRO). > That's the main reason I'm keeping the Pro III for 6m. > I'd like one too. Though I'd settle for a soundcard based one that didn't come with a whole screen

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-02 Thread David Cutter
Agreed A calibrated S meter could be useful tool in many other ways. - Measuring field strength and patterns of antennas. - Reporting on things like BPL and other radiated and conducted measurements that seem to be a daily threat on HF. Just knowing they close to S9 plus plus minus 20 db

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-01 Thread K7TV
Guy, I too would like that capability, *but* it would not make sense to use the K3 this way unless it has the long term gain stability (including vs. temperature changes) to support it. In response to my raising that issue, Geoff (GM4ESD) emailed me off list to suggest that the J-FET used used in

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-01 Thread Guy, K2AV
I'd like to be able to calibrate it to 1 uV and 50 uV and know that the noise on the band is -10 or +3 dBuV and that the signal from a friend has gone down to +18 from +26 last week and previous. That requires a calibration, and while one could just use what the rig does naturally as a reference,

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-01 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Guy, K2AV wrote: beam kind of thing. Although that can be done relatively with the audio voltage level, it wouldn't allow me to tell a local that his ground wave signal has gone down 3 db and is staying there, or be able to create data for studies over time. You only require that both measur

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Larry Phipps
. This is independent of any K3 AGC settings. Larry N8LP > From: ab2tc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 8:01 AM > Hi, > > Adding a new command for a dBm report would not bre

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:08 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter > > > > Hi Guy > > It seems that the consensus is that a pretty innacurate S-meter is ok. > > I dont kn

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread K7TV
Several people have mentioned the possible use of a nuanced S-meter or a dBm or dBuV readout as a potential serious piece of test equipment (as opposed to the quick-glance uses that I have mentioned). In general I think receivers in the past have been unsuitable for such use because of temperature

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread K7TV
e the Perseus, ADAT and the newly released cheap > Flexradio models, all which offer a very accurate S-meters as a feature. > It would do no harm to the K3's reputation having a feature that some > consider desirable, that's marketing not rocket science. > > > 73 >

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Craig
ffer a very accurate S-meters as a feature. It would do no harm to the K3's reputation having a feature that some consider desirable, that's marketing not rocket science. 73 Craig --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Guy, K2AV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Guy, K2AV <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Guy, K2AV
I would just like to see signal strength, including noise, in absolute reference levels. In particular when listening to a local while turning a beam kind of thing. Although that can be done relatively with the audio voltage level, it wouldn't allow me to tell a local that his ground wave signal

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Julian, G4ILO
ab2tc wrote: > > > Adding a new command for a dBm report would not break any existing > software. A resolution of 1 S unit or 5dB is really unsatisfactory. > > Changing the functionality of the BG or SM commands so they could provide greater resolution *would* break software, which is what I

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Craig
Hi We might as well cover all bases and have a DBuv scale. Most professional test receivers today use a Dbuv signal strength scale. 73 Craig VK3HE --- On Fri, 10/31/08, ab2tc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: ab2tc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigg

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Adding a new command for a dBm report would not break any existing software. A resolution of 1 S unit or 5dB is really unsatisfactory. Jan Erik Holm wrote: > > Yes dBm, I would like that. > > / Jim SM2EKM > - > Julian, G4ILO wrote: >> >> Jan Erik Holm wrote: >>> Can this

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes dBm, I would like that. / Jim SM2EKM - Julian, G4ILO wrote: Jan Erik Holm wrote: Can this be changed? It would break all existing software if it was. As the K3 is capable of displaying a signal strength reading in dBm it would seem feasible to add a new command that woul

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Jan Erik Holm wrote: > > Can this be changed? > It would break all existing software if it was. As the K3 is capable of displaying a signal strength reading in dBm it would seem feasible to add a new command that would allow software to access this value. But there are probably still higher pr

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-31 Thread AD6XY
Personally I would use the SDR-IQ as it is so much more powerful than an audio based system. Of the audio systems, LP-PAN is possibly the best available for the K3 at the moment. You might also consider, if it is so important to you to have your PC screen uncluttered, getting a second small moni

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Can this be changed? / SM2EKM - Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: No. The SM; (and BG;) reports from the K3 are one S-unit increments from S0 to S9 and 5 dB steps above S9. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You mus

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread ab2tc
Hi Julian, Don't count out LP-PAN. True, it needs PowerSDR-IF, but it will not take the whole screen. Even the full display takes only about a quarter of my screen (1680x1050), but I can get rid of everything below and to the right of the panadapter display if I wish. I don't do that though becau

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
increments from S0 to S9 and 5 dB steps above S9. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K7TV > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:02 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter >

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
Julian, I tend to use S-meters more for purposes other than for giving signal reports, but when I do give a signal report I prefer to make it an honest one and update it later in the qso. When I get a non-real report of 599 e.g. from a dx, it kind of neutralizes the joy of having made the contac

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ralph Parker wrote: > > What I REALLY want is a stand-alone spectrum display (think 756 PRO). > That's the main reason I'm keeping the Pro III for 6m. > I'd like one too. Though I'd settle for a soundcard based one that didn't come with a whole screenful of SDR software attached to it so I cou

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
K7TV wrote: > > Are you referring to the K3's ability to display audio output level in mV > or "dbV"? > While mere signal reports can reasonably be given by ear, I have > measurement in my blood and really appreciate that K3 capability. > I think signal reports are more politics or psychology

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
des. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David > Ferrington, M0XDF > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter > >

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
Are you referring to the K3's ability to display audio output level in mV or "dbV"? While mere signal reports can reasonably be given by ear, I have measurement in my blood and really appreciate that K3 capability. When I am not in a hurry, it is good for something like looking at filter response.

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Guy, K2AV
Wasn't there a way or going to be a way to display or send absolute dBm for signal strength. That could just be a program running and getting reports from the K3 over the serial port. Integer dBm would tell you everything you needed to know. 73, Guy. -- View this message in context: http://n2.

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread K7TV
K3 are far superior to an "S-meter" for serious signal strength > measurements and comparisons. > > Ron AC7AC > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 3

[Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter vs what I REALLY want.

2008-10-30 Thread Ralph Parker
>I'm not sure that I understand the fascination of larger S meters... Nor I. I usually give reports by ear anyway. What I REALLY want is a stand-alone spectrum display (think 756 PRO). That's the main reason I'm keeping the Pro III for 6m. VE7XF ___ E

RE: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
008 11:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter I'm not sure that I understand the fascination of larger S meters, I totally ignore mine. But back in the days of my ill spent youth, when radios glowed in the dark, I owned a Hallicrafters SX-96 which had an S me

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread w6jd
n Thu, 10/30/08, Greg - AB7R wrote: > > > From: Greg - AB7R > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, "David Fleming" > > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 1:28 PM > > David, > > > > What about us

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Julian, G4ILO
David Fleming-2 wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > Well, yes, it could be integrated into PowerSDR, or any other rig control > app where the source code is available. But then it would go from being a > trivial programming task to a major project... for me anyway. :) > > David, W4SMT > > I could fairl

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
MacLoggerDx has an S-meter and has for all rigs :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that! -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Fleming
TED]> wrote: > From: Greg - AB7R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 1:28 PM > David, > > What about using it through Larry&#x

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Greg - AB7R
David, What about using it through Larry's LP-PAN? That way the serial data could be used for other functions at the same time. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Oct 30 10:15 , David Fleming sent: >--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread David Fleming
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Lee Buller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With a little programming ... someone could come up with an > S-Meter that would fill the screen of a computer. This could be easily done. Maybe have the size adjustable.. be able to select digital, bargraph or analog even. :) If th

Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Lee Buller
PROTECTED]> Subject: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:26 AM For those like me with 50 year old eyes, here are some suggestions for making the K3 S-meter easier to read. Scroll down to the bottom

[Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
For those like me with 50 year old eyes, here are some suggestions for making the K3 S-meter easier to read. Scroll down to the bottom. ;-) http://tinyurl.com/58qg5a ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to