On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:49:49 +, David Pratt wrote:
>It is fortunate that the CB bands can be disabled in K3
>firmware.
As Eric and Wayne will agree, if any ham transmitter or kit
sold commercially transmits in the CB band, it must be type
certified for such use before it can be marketed
Guys - Seriously, let's end this thread for now.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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Fred (FL) wrote:
Simple - it is illegal. You cannot use a HF ham
rig to work in the marine bands, to work in the
CB bands.
Is this spelled out in the rules or is this from an interpretation of the
rules? AFAIK, the issue with ham transmitters and CB radio is one of maximum
output power.
The
Craig VK3HE wrote;
>> Whats also concerning is that this decision has been made only from the
perspective
>> of US laws not even taking into consideration the international market.
US hams seems to have an interesting relationship with CB, dating back to
the time when FCC took the 27MHz band ou
Guys - Let's end this thread. It is one of those that will repeat
forever ;-)
The K3 was primarily designed for ham band coverage with a wider general
coverage receive. Its not guaranteed to TX at full power everywhere
outside the ham bands when so enabled, though it should cover most MARS
fr
Simple - it is illegal. You cannot use a HF ham
rig to work in the marine bands, to work in the
CB bands. Perhaps the FCC isn't watching all the
time, but they can be directed to do so. It would
be just illegal, for anyone to try to use a K3
or any FCC certified amateur HF rig to attempt to
trans
Richard Kent wrote:
>
>
>
> Maybe there was another
> answer all along we did not know it. Maybe the popularity of the CB band
> has
> dwindled to the point that it is not the hot spot we remember.
>
or maybe the FCC will give us back the 11 meter band that used to be a Ham
band!
yeahr
Not me, I am CW only and never get above 28.050mHz.
de Joe, aa4nn
!
> Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his
> radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect
> anyone else? No.
>
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Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his
radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect
anyone else? No.
Ham Radio is starting to remind me of all the homeowner's associations that
are run by older folks that have nothing better to do
-Original Message-
Before Eric Stops this thread,
This is a point I have wondered about for a long time. In the US, it has
been illegal to use CB frequencies since the late 70's. To the hams this
mean that transverters had only 2 Mhz to work with (28-30mhz) as an IF. This
means that a 6
David Pratt wrote:
In a recent message Goody K3NG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of
running into the FCC today are slim to none. If you don't identify
with your ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB
frequencies, it's unlike
I'm just a dumb ole country boy that somehow wound up in a big city. A
few thoughts on this subject, in no particular order, would be as follows.
1. Plan before acting.
2. Use the right tool for the job.
3. Count to 10 before diving into something.
4. Use your common sense before using anything
Good morning all,
I just had to reply to this thread. First let me say that
I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE! JUST MY OPINIONS!
Speaking as the past ARES EC for Baltimore, I see no reason to TX on out
of band freqs. My group trained on several occasions with a REACT (the
CB equivalent to AR
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:15 +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> I quite agree. even the vaunted yaesu ft817 with a few jumper
> modifications can be made for general coverage tx.
> shaun.
the FT817 can have general coverage TX enabled and have it's region
changed by software alone. A firmware reset res
Whats also concerning is that this decision has been
made only from the perspective of US laws not even
taking into consideration the international market.
In Australia there is a legal 27mhz marine band that
is monitored and has full legal status just as the
VHF FM marine band does. Its use i
Hi Michael,
wondering if there is any RF design considerations that would restrict
or limit transmission within its operating frequencies extremes.
The bandpasses, I would assume. They appear to be fairly narrow.
vy 73 de toby
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
Or better yet a list of those that were fined or sanction for attempting to
assist in an emergency. In my nearly 30 years as a ham I can't ever recall
someone getting in trouble for trying to help.
Based on my own experience with regulators and
I quite agree. even the vaunted yaesu ft817 with a few jumper
modifications can be made for general coverage tx.
shaun.
On 20/12/2007 4:49 PM, the old scribe known as David Pratt was able to
impart this pearl of wisdom:
In a recent message Goody K3NG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I'm not in favo
In a recent message Goody K3NG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of
running into the FCC today are slim to none. If you don't identify
with your ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB frequencies,
it's unlikely anyone, even the FC
Here on the Oregon coast where hurricane force winds are a regular event
several times each winter, our community emergency team relies on Amateur
radio, CB and "Family Radio" for communications.
However, I'd not want to combine them into one rig. That would prevent
simultaneous use by several pe
On Dec 19, 2007 1:52 PM, Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
> CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner
I was wondering, my understanding is that this transmit limitation is
a firmware based restriction, so _in theo
I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of running
into the FCC today are slim to none. If you don't identify with your
ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB frequencies, it's
unlikely anyone, even the FCC will know a difference, or even care. The
FCC can't eve
Eric, please read your message (below), not for what you
probably meant to say, but for what the words actually say.
It tells the reader that "high power TX in the CB band " is
always blocked, and doesn't say "TX in the CB band is blocked".
Your wording clearly indicates that it only blocks
Or better yet a list of those that were fined or sanction for attempting to
assist in an emergency. In my nearly 30 years as a ham I can't ever recall
someone getting in trouble for trying to help.
On 12/19/07 6:45 PM, "Thom LaCosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Phil Kane
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Phil Kane wrote:
And what excuse are you going to rely on if the FCC declares that
the "out-of-band" communication did not meet the very specific
and narrow "window" permitting "any frequency, any power"?
Based on your professional expertise and history, it might be va
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:12:05 -0500, Goody K3NG wrote:
> Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards
> to Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at
> meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate
> on non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB.
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, KBG Luxford wrote:
The local Radio Frequency Authority took a sensible attitude. A ham rig is
not "type approved" for the CB frequency, but the Department apparently took
the view that the regulations never envisioned that type of emergency need,
and that the preservation
There has been at least one case of emergency in the Oz outback where
the ability to transmit on a CB frequency by a ham has brought a welcome
response.
The local Radio Frequency Authority took a sensible attitude. A ham rig
is not "type approved" for the CB frequency, but the Department
app
Amen
Ed KD3Y
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goody K3NG
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:12 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
>
> I don
I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities. In fact, I think
it should be configurable by the end user. Let me explain.
Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards to
Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at
meetings. As an amateur, you ne
At 01:52 PM 12/19/2007, Ken Kopp wrote:
Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner
would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band!
Aw come onit's a matter of law, not self respectand
the radio can't get
Hi Ken - My email said exactly the opposite :-) The K3 -always- blocks
TX in the CB band (except out the 0 dBm transverter port.)
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Ken Kopp wrote:
Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner
woul
Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner
would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! The
radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit
there.
It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't
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