Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-12 Thread Monty Shultes
On Sep 11, 2011, at 9:38 PM, John Parker wrote: Monty, ditch the Scotch tape. It can generate large amounts of ESD when pulled off the spool or during removal. I have worked with parts for space instruments and have had the NASA ESD training a couple of times as well as some other ESD

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-12 Thread D.W. Fearn
This Heathkit thread has been very interesting to me as a manufacturer of professional audio equipment that uses a lot of vacuum tube circuitry. When I did the first designs for our products 20 years ago, I had a Heathkit-style assembly procedure in mind. In fact, at one time, I made an

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Jensen
I read some time ago that pulling the tape off the roll also generates soft X-rays [?]. Pull off a whole roll and glow in the dark? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org On 9/12/2011 3:33 AM, Monty Shultes wrote: Monty,

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-12 Thread Edward R. Cole
I do not even need to reply. Mathew, Wayne, Don have done so eloquently. I think there might have been a point when components were difficult to acquire but not today. There are many specialty houses to make custom pcb's (I use ExpressPCB). But most of my one-of boards are RS project boards

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread Dave KK7SS
Ed, I beg to differ on one point So SMT did not take it from hams - the hams took HB out of hamradio. In my opinion, what took the 'HB' out of Ham radio was the decline in descrete parts that you could see and handle. I think that the electronics industries ubiquitous use of SMTs, LSI's,

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread Matthew Pitts
To: elecraft_mailman.qth.netElecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns! Ed, I beg to differ on one point So SMT did not take it from hams - the hams took HB out of hamradio. In my opinion, what took the 'HB' out of Ham radio was the decline in descrete parts that you could

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
I think the electronics industry's ubiquitous use of SMTs, LSI's, GPA's etc. caused the decline in demand in manufacturing of the more expensive and labor intensive items like tubes, variable caps, resistors. etc. The demand for leaded parts may be lower, but don't count them out. We

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Most parts to do leaded component HB are easily available, just look at Mouser or Digikey, or Newark or Allied, or many other major distributors. It is rare not to find what is needed. If you are working from an older parts list, you may encounter some difficulty in that the stated

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread John Ragle
I would like to second: Don's comments about HB. Believe me, when I say I come from the old school WRT HB, but just trying a single Manhatten [sic] construction using chads punched from .065 circuit board with a nibbler and mounted with superglue on a ground plane was more than enough to

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Ragle Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:17 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns! I would like to second: Don's comments about HB. Believe me, when I say I come from the old school WRT HB

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-10 Thread Monty Shultes
Don, you old f**t, I'm 32 already, 10 months older than thee. Regarding surface mounts, I have used Scotch tape to pick up and place parts. It holds nicely while tack soldering and is easy to reposition. I also like to flood with solder and wick the excess, it's risky, but usually works

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-10 Thread Edward R. Cole
OK! OK! I should have phrased it that nearly no hams build anything, anymore (one out of a hundred hams), and most hams are scared of trying to do SMT (if they even know the term). Oh yes, hams build antennas (those things out of wire) and connect radios to other accessories and plug'em in

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-10 Thread Kevin Rock
When my dad got out of school after the war engineers were required to work on the factory floor until they got a promotion. Then a while at foreman until the other engineers thought their training period was up. My father was a metallurgical engineer (MetE 49) who graduated from South

[Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Edward R. Cole
I like many who started ham radio in the 1950's have owned and built heathkits: first was a DX-35 which I ran as a Novice (rocks, of course), then a Sixer, then a DX-100 (only for its PS and AM modulator for my Johnson 6N2), and final one was the 6m SB-110 (nice rig). I don't see from the

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Terry Schieler
I wonder if I'll need to tip the GPA-100 Garage Parking Assistant?? Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:25 PM To: 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns! The ARRL reported it just recently too

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: ... Surface-mount technology has taken kit building out most hams hands... = I understand why Ed says this, but really SMT is not so scary. Many thousands of Softrock kits have been sold, and they are still

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
I disagree that Surface Mount Technology has taken kit building out of the hands of most hams. Yes, it is not a task for the sloppy builder, or for those who do not have good hand and small muscle control - you must hold those small parts in the proper place while soldering, but kits designed

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I concur with Don. Although my advertised age is 36-1/2, that's derived by counting only birthdays on even numbered years, Hi! I use good lighting, an Optovisor magnifier and organize my work area as if I'm going to disassemble a wrist-watch. Also my work area is set up so that my arms rest

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Actually, I will celebrate my 32nd birthday next February. Since Life begins at 40, I decided to start counting from there. :-) 73, Don W3FPR On 9/9/2011 10:57 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: I concur with Don. Although my advertised age is 36-1/2, that's derived by counting only birthdays on

[Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread John Westmoreland
Elecraft List, FYI: http://www.eetimes.com/discussion/break-points/4219631/Heathkit-returns-?cid=NL_EmbeddedEcosystem=embedded 73's, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. AJ6BC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The ARRL reported it just recently too. More from Heath is here: http://www.heathkit.com/ Will there be a HW-10 after all? Hi! It's great to see general interest in kit building, but I'm waiting to see if they are no solder kits. The old Heath had gone to no solder kit TVs and computers

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread k6rb
In the 1950s, the Heathkit AT-1 and AR-3 were pure junk. Yes, the prices were low, but the design quality was awful. The DX-20, DX-35 and DX-40 were just okay but the VF-1 was trash. The DX-100 and DX-100B were okay if you were rock bound, but if you used the VFO - it was a VF-1 - and it was

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread Jack Smith
The VF-1 could be considerably improved if operated from a separate power supply and left on long enough to thermally stabilize. Not saying it could be confused with a crystal controlled oscillator, but a lot of its problems were related to voltage changes from the associated transmitter.

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread Phillip Shepard
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Jack Smith Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 4:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns! The VF-1 could be considerably improved if operated from

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread John Westmoreland
My 20MHz dual-trace oscilloscope and DMM still work - and I still use them. I hope they will make test equipment kits again. Some folks are still running their Heathkit radios too. 73's, John AJ6BC On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:46 PM, k...@baymoon.com wrote: In the 1950s, the Heathkit AT-1 and

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread Grant Youngman
It's probably a little bit disingenuous to bash the late 50's Heathkit products too hard. Generally, the stuff was a good value, worked (some better than others of course), and was certainly no worse than most other comparable products of the time. I had a friend who got a set of St. James

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread Lou Kolb
- From: Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns! It's probably a little bit disingenuous to bash the late 50's Heathkit products too hard. Generally, the stuff was a good

Re: [Elecraft] Heathkit Returns!

2011-09-08 Thread K1FFX
My Heathkit antenna tuner (HFT-9A) is, since putting my K2/100 on-line, now back on-line as part of my regular station setup (see the pic on my page at QRZ.COM). I have no idea how many years ago I built it, but it works great. And ditto for my HD-3030 terminal unit (!) ... built sometime in the