Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-06-01 Thread drewko1
On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:35:39 -0400, Joe, W4TV wrote: The key are dedicated band select buttons that allow random access (direct switching) selection with the ability to choose alternate saved frequencies (generally, on the other modes) with successive presses of the specific band button.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Don Wilhelm wrote: Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. I find it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Mark Bayern
The Art of Computer Programming was written in the mid-60s, and would certainly have fixed the usage of the term by then. _was_ written in the mid-60s? ... volume 1 maybe. Volume 4 is currently shown as 'in preparation'. When I first realized that the work had expanded to 7 volumes I was afraid

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mark Bayern wrote: The Art of Computer Programming was written in the mid-60s, and would certainly have fixed the usage of the term by then. _was_ written in the mid-60s? ... volume 1 maybe. Volume 4 is currently shown as 'in preparation'. When I first realized that the work had

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Brian Lloyd
The biggest problem with all of this is that different manufacturers have given different names to the same thing and the same name to different things. We can talk about band stacking registers (no clue as to what those do even tho' I have them in my Icom rig), memories, etc., until we

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Don Wilhelm wrote: If you are referring to something different, then please do not call it a stack - the definition of a memory stack has been quite clear since the first days of microprocessors. Actually, well before the first u-processors. The first stack architecture computers I can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Dave KQ3T
That sounds like a ring, or circular queue, in CS terms. I'm another who has never quite understand what a band-stacking memory is, or does. 73, Dave KQ3T David Woolley (E.L) wrote: What they want is a stack, for each band as well as a button for each band. The stack isn't a true stack,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread drewko1
On Sat, 31 May 2008 10:17:24 -0700, Brian, WB6RQN wrote: As I tune across the band I often hear a signal that sounds interesting, e.g. a station in QSO that I want to go back to or a pile- up I don't want to try to deal with now, but I don't want to stop there. I want to keep going. So

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Don Rasmussen
spots on 10 meters where you were operating. You never have to press save, you have an automatic bread crumb trail of all the most recent places you've been [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Brian Lloyd brian-wb6rqn at lloyd.com Sat May 31 13:17:24 EDT 2008 Previous

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
band button. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... So

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don, Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. If you are referring to

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Don, Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, I believe what is really wanted is random access band buttons - in other words a single button press for each band. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how this ever has been construed in ham circles to use the term band stacking memories - perhaps someone can tell me how 'random

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:02 AM To: Dave Van Wallaghen Cc: 'Don Rasmussen'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Dave, I believe what is really wanted is random access band buttons

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread John W2XS
I haven't used the K3 receiver enough to really comment, but I like the way the TS-930 works (with the PIEXX board installed). There are 99 memories available which are accessed via the RIT knob (similar to the K3 and the VFO B knob). In addition, there are 9 individual band buttons on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread W7TEA
My K3 should be arriving in a 2-3 weeks so I'll obviously pass on making suggestions until I can play with it awhile. My Omni VII's band stacking registers are not FIFO but rather like having four sets of VFO's for each band at the push of one button. So VFO A could be at 14.001 and VFO B

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread drewko1
I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons on my K2. I pretty much know how many pushes I'll need to get from one band to another, usually only one or two away. Anyhow, the display changes instantly with each button push before the relays get a chance to switch, so you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave KQ3T
I'm starting to think that if, historically, all rigs had come with Band+ and Band- buttons, plus dedicated GoToBandXY buttons, we'd be seeing posts asking for a knob connected by a shaft to a multi-gang rotary switch, hooked to a big air-wound coil with multiple taps. I'm confident the

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
to be negative, I truly love this radio. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com Fri May 30 08:11:38 EDT 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you have exactly the same function as your TS-930 provides. In addition, the K3's band up/down buttons will take you to the last used frequency on any band

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
Don (fpr type), The TS-930 is a 25 year old design - post Y2K those memories (registers) are tunable, accessed randomly, and stacked to some level. John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread W6NEK
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Don Rasmussen' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting ham at this point, I've been following this conversation trying

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
, which could be reassigned to allow 2X or 3X stacking of your 5 favorite bands. Some will ask - what's the point if PowerSDR can make up the difference?, others would suggest they'd rather leave the computer off most of the time. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... W6NEK w6nek

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Mike Harris
Hi Drew, - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... |I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons | on my K2. I pretty much know how

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-29 Thread Don Rasmussen
I brought up the band changing issue early on with the guys, not because I just had to have it, but because it seemed that every transceiver these days that's big enough to have them, does. The thing that I find disconcerting is that even though many of the buttons on the K3 are fully occupied