[Elecraft] K3 power out and displaying bar graphs...

2020-06-14 Thread oz6abm
Hi I have a K3 running through a KPA500. I had a QSO and the guy told me my audio was horrific. The only way I made it acceptable for him and others was dropping my Compression and Mic gain to much lower values, that is 10 for each. I know I have a low tone in my voice, so I expected the Co

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Steve
Well, yes... {less powerful engine} After the late 60's the rules were changed to require all cars to operate under the same limits. NO more turbine cars... (for a $6 ball bearing...) steve WB3LGC On 21-Jul-14 1:34 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Or, when they're patting your face with a shovel saying,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Steve
I think some where my original question go lost. Can the K3 operate key down at 100W's. I did get an answer, yes - 120w for 24hr's... So the answer is yes. I complicated things by adding JT65 and that I operate at 0.5 to 2 watts with my KX3, but up to 20w with an IC-706. Yes, if I am -25db a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/21/2014 9:51 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: The PA (KX3 or KXPA100) operates directly off the supply power and current is proportional to power level and drive, but not supply voltage. Thanks, Lyle. The additional question I was asking here is if the KXPA100 pull proportionally less current fro

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Paul Gordon N6LL
Very FB, Wes, and it has the requisite two meters: plate current and grid current. 73, Paul N6LL On 7/21/2014 9:38 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 7/20/2014 10:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Sounds good to me. http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html#amp Beautiful work, Wes 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Lyle Johnson
Two answers below. 73, Lyle KK7P 1) Can the KXPA100 and KX3 tolerate the higher voltages of a fully charged 14.8V battery pack? (In the range of 16V). No. The products are not guaranteed to FAIL if you apply 16 V, but they are not designed to operate from 16 V, either. 2) Do the KX3 or K

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2014 10:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Sounds good to me. http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html#amp Beautiful work, Wes 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2014 10:32 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Not if exchanging call signs takes 10 minutes instead of ten seconds. There are excellent reasons for QRP. As chance would have it, I spent an hour or two today at the NCDXC club picnic chatting with AF6RT, who spent Friday and Saturday lighting up a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Sounds good to me. http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html#amp On 7/20/2014 2:09 PM, Bill Turner wrote: ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 7/20/2014 12:36 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: The software provides about 10-dB better SNR (making the 10w JT65 signal equivalent to 100w CW). REPLY: I fi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Or, when they're patting your face with a shovel saying, "I wish I'd spent more time working QRP." On 7/20/2014 12:36 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down Message-ID: <011e01cfa426$5fba6f80$1f2f4e80$@wjschmidt.com> Content-Type: tex

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Not if exchanging call signs takes 10 minutes instead of ten seconds. On 7/20/2014 8:57 AM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote: which can actually *lower* the total QRM level. <<< And! here all along, I thought " LESS Power, LESS QRM"!!! Oh well! 73 MILVERTON /W9MMS __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Brian Alsop
I'm not a QRP fan for DX. However, one can definitely copy a weaker signal with JT65. No matter how much power you have, you can't work them if you can't copy them. It seems like the magic combo is 1500 W and JT65 on both ends. I think guys are resorting to this on 160M to try and squeeze o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 7/20/2014 12:36 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: The software provides about 10-dB better SNR (making the 10w JT65 signal equivalent to 100w CW). REPLY: I find an 8877 provides about 22 dB SNR over ten watts. :-) 73, Bill W6WRT ___

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Edward R Cole
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down Message-ID: <011e01cfa426$5fba6f80$1f2f4e80$@wjschmidt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have you ever listened to the interviews of the Indy car drivers after a race? Do they say: "I wish I had a less po

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
> >Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ/ VP5HZ > >Owner - Operator >Big Signal Ranch - NA-QRO Club >Staunton, Illinois > >email:  b...@wjschmidt.com > >-Original Message- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Beha

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
bject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down The problem with this is, if everyone else is as misguided, then they are transmitting with ten watts too. So their signals are 10 to 20+ dB weaker than with higher power, hence there are fewer stations to work, ie. less DX. Furthermore, with more po

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-20 Thread Wes (N7WS)
The problem with this is, if everyone else is as misguided, then they are transmitting with ten watts too. So their signals are 10 to 20+ dB weaker than with higher power, hence there are fewer stations to work, ie. less DX. Furthermore, with more power, faster modes of communicating are possib

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 7/19/2014 5:44 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: and I work the world on 10 watts. REPLY: I encourage the Geralds of the world to continue with their ten watts. Makes DXing easier for the rest of us. :-) 73, Bill W6WRT __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Gerald Manthey
Yes I guess I was not totally informed. I took the suggestions from the book and translated it to mean low power. I read the user guide for jt65hf and it said in part " Running at full output power is seldom necessary or desirable due to the incredible sensitivity of JT65. Most users find 5 to 10 w

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/19/2014 2:27 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: Just how many people are running high power on low power modes like jt65? I work the world with 10 watts. You are misinformed. JT65 is NOT a LOW POWER mode, it is a WEAK SIGNAL mode. BIG difference. Caps added for emphasis. On VHF/UHF, it is quite

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Josh Fiden
I thought it was "weak signal" mode, not "low power" mode. I don't think the XYL would permit an array large enough to work 6m EME with 10W... everyone has a dream! 73, Josh W6XU On 7/19/2014 2:27 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: Just how many people are running high power on low power modes like j

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
I don't use that mode and generally run no more than 40 watts on PSK31 with the K3. But this statement below "The K3/100 has two fans. The KX3 has no fans. Apples and oranges." made me wonder if fan failure could be an issue with the K3/100 -- and one which might affect those running less th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Gerald Manthey
Just how many people are running high power on low power modes like jt65? I work the world with 10 watts. Gerald - KC6CNN On Jul 19, 2014 10:48 AM, "Phil Wheeler" wrote: > Hmm .. makes me wonder if a failed fan would result in an error message > and/or graceful power roll off to protect the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
Hmm .. makes me wonder if a failed fan would result in an error message and/or graceful power roll off to protect the K3? I have so much ringing in my deaf ear I never hear the fans! Phil W7OX On 7/19/14, 6:51 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Steve, The K3/100 has two fans. The KX3 has no fans. Ap

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-19 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Steve, The K3/100 has two fans. The KX3 has no fans. Apples and oranges. I ran my K3 on 30 meters RTTY at 100 watts for 2 hours non-stop as an ARRL centennial station and had no problem. The fan just ramps up to a higher speed. I've also run JT65-HF on 6 meters at 100 watts with no visible pr

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-18 Thread Josh Fiden
It takes 80W drive to get my amp to full output. I've run my K3 continuously for hours at a time at that level on JT65. No issues at all and never even noticed it getting hot. 73, Josh W6XU On 7/18/2014 5:04 PM, Steve wrote: No, I wouldn't run 100W on JT65. _

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-18 Thread Steve
Thanks, You didn't use a brick? I expected the K3 to handle 100W as there were no comments that I remember. With your comments it doesn't matter how the 500W amp would work as I doubt if I would want to run more than 100W, either. I also have a IC-706 "100W" rig but it will only handle ~40W RT

[Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

2014-07-18 Thread Steve
I am thinking about replacing my ORION II with a K3 as it is smaller (much smaller). My OII will do RTTY (or JT65) at 100 Watts (with the fan option). What will the K3 do? (I know it has fans, too) I hear lots of comments about digital power out for the KX3 and heatsinks... I guess the question a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out issue

2013-04-09 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Bruce, The most common cause of this problem is the TX calibration which you have performed. Since that didn't do the trick you should touch up the results of the calibration using the instructions at the top of the K3 manual page 62 (CONFIG:TXGN). You only need to do this on those bands that a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out issue

2013-04-08 Thread Bruce Meier
Update – Not sure how I missed this, but I just determined that this ONLY happens when NOT in SPLIT mode. And – it happens on BOTH K3s. I had my other K3 in split and did not notice it. I can reproduce the same symptom on both K3s when NOT in split but - when in split – both are fine. Do

[Elecraft] K3 power out issue

2013-04-08 Thread Bruce Meier
I just noticed that one of my K3s seems to have a power out issue. Specifically, when keying for the first time, the output power seems to be overshooting what it is set at. If I continue to send CW at the same power it is fine. If I decrease or increase the power the output overshoots what it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out jumps on power change

2013-03-20 Thread Gordon LaPoint
Mike, That seems to have fixed it! Thanks! Gordon - N1MGO On 19 Mar 2013 at 4:32, Mike K2MK wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > Hopefully it is a simple calibration problem. Redo the Calibrate Transmitter > Gain from the K3 Utility program Calibration tab. If you still have problems > you may need to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out jumps on power change

2013-03-19 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Gordon, Hopefully it is a simple calibration problem. Redo the Calibrate Transmitter Gain from the K3 Utility program Calibration tab. If you still have problems you may need to touch up the results as directed at the top of page 62 of the K3 manual. Be sure to check every band. Typically the p

[Elecraft] K3 Power out jumps on power change

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon LaPoint
Hi, I'm having problems with my K3-100 with power out. If Power is 12 watts or less (100W pa not in use) and I adjust the power out then the power goes to the new level with no problem, as long as power requested is less than 12 watts. When using the 100Watt PA if power is adjusted it wil

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Out

2010-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Glenn, Can you do the Transmit Gain Calibration manually (from the menu - see the K3 manual)? Try it - it must be done on each band, and should be done forst at the 5 watt level and then the 50 watt level. Which bands succeed and which bands fail? 73, Don W3FPR Glenn Haffly wrote: > I have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Out

2010-05-01 Thread Richard Ferch
Glenn, This happened to me recently, and in my case it was a TMP cable between the KREF3 board and the RF board that had become dislodged. No doubt there are other possible causes, but that's a relatively easy one to check. 73, Rich VE3KI K5ZE wrote: > I have K3 serial number 2802 with the 1

[Elecraft] K3 Power Out

2010-04-30 Thread Glenn Haffly
I have K3 serial number 2802 with the 100 watt option. All was well until today. Currently there is zero to minimal output. Rotating the power knob to 12 watts you hear the relay. Regardless of power setting only 1 bar on the RF is lit.The fans are workings. Rechecking the TX calibration it faile

[Elecraft] K3 power out vs commanded

2009-02-14 Thread Mike Scott
I spent some time measuring K3 power out vs. TUN PWR setting. I used a 60 MHz scope for power measurement and a dummy load that measures 1.06 SWR with the 10X scope probe connected. I did all measurements on 40M and I did these tests after conducting the power calibration procedure that is part of

[Elecraft] K3-Power out and 80M digital mode

2009-01-06 Thread Gary Gregory
Greetings One and All, I just did the calibration for Tx on all bands and all appears fine. Into both a dummy load and a resonant antenna the external watt meter reads the same on power out as indicated by the K3 when dialing up 25W, 55W, 75W and 100W. There is only a slight drop in the external

RE: [Elecraft] K3: power out & V, A readings

2008-12-22 Thread Ignacy
Can you try it on 10-15m. At 120 set, the power on this band seems to be lower, as measured by LP-100. Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-power-out---V%2C-A-readings-tp1687381p1689821.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-21 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Jan Erik Holm wrote: Please Elecraft, make a FW change and limit the radio to 100W, thanks! Human nature being what it is, the likely result of this would be a large number of people refusing to upgrade their firmware any further and a significant grapevine messag

RE: [Elecraft] K3: power out & V, A readings

2008-12-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
e track what I have been seeing. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:53 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector >

RE: [Elecraft] K3: power out & V, A readings

2008-12-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Those numbers look similar to mine if you're testing on 40 meters, Doug. The efficiency of the K3's transmitter varies from band to band, with (IMX) 40 meters having the best efficiency and so the lowest current drain vs. RF output. Ron -Original Message- Well, prompted by the intere

[Elecraft] K3: power out & V, A readings

2008-12-21 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Well, prompted by the interesting discourse here, I decided to ignore my bulk and get on the floor to make some measurements at the PS (RS35A). K3 on Receive: 13.60 volts K3 at 120 watts output: 13.59 volts H. Okay, so then did voltage (and amp) readings using the K3 itself. Watts are also

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
ginal Message- From: Jim W7RY [mailto:w...@arrl.net] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:56 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out Ron A crowbar circuit is used to "disable" the power supply in the event of over voltage. The curren

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-21 Thread Jan Erik Holm
OK that could be done, I will experiment further when I do get some time. I know I have checked the PS voltage but dont remember what it was, have to go down into the basement and check. Now checked, it´s 13.88 at 100W and 13.84V at 120W. IMD comes up 8dB at 120W compared with 100W. Stays pritty m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-21 Thread Bill W4ZV
Jan Erik Holm wrote: > > After measuring the TX IMD on SSB I stopped putting the > radio above 100W. > Jim try setting your power supply so you have 13.8-14.0V key down at maximum power and see if that helps the IMD some. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-21 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jan Erik Holm wrote: Please Elecraft, make a FW change and limit the radio to 100W, thanks! Human nature being what it is, the likely result of this would be a large number of people refusing to upgrade their firmware any further and a significant grapevine message about how new purchasers c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Sorry made a typo. 199W should be 100W. Jan Erik Holm wrote: After measuring the TX IMD on SSB I stopped putting the radio above 100W. IMO the K3 should be limited to 100W, it is sad to see it isn´t. My advice would be, on SSB never go above 199W, on CW it doesn´t matter. Please Elecraft, make a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread Jan Erik Holm
n...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power out Firstly Got the K3 assembled. The transverter board was back ordered and so is the subreceiver so I will

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread Jim W7RY
amps. The modification involves adding a resistor to the current limit circuit of the 723 regulator. 73 and Merry Christmas to all! Jim W7RY - Original Message - From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: ; Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Pow

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread chen dave
I got following data with IFR AM/FM 1600: K3 sn1302 POWER SET(W) POWER OUT(W) Difference ERR(%) 0 0.15 0.15 0.1 0.15 0.05 50.00% 0.2 0.3 0.1 50.00% 0.3 0.31 0.01 3.33% 0.4 0.4 0 0.00% 0.5 0.51 0.01 2.00% 0.6 0.63

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
h.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power out Firstly Got the K3 assembled. The transverter board was back ordered and so is the subreceiver so I will be re entering the K3 and adding to it at least twice

[Elecraft] K3 Power out

2008-12-20 Thread Gary Smith
Firstly Got the K3 assembled. The transverter board was back ordered and so is the subreceiver so I will be re entering the K3 and adding to it at least twice over the next few months. I'm not looking forward to the disassembly & re-assembly but doing the kit sure gave me a great appreciation