Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Questions

2021-04-30 Thread Wes
Are you using an external RTTY program, e.g. MMTTY?  If not and you're using the internal CW to RTTY feature, I can't help you.  Otherwise I'm assuming audio input via Line In.  Baud rate is set in the program. Make sure the audio drive, set by 1) soundcard level and 2) "Mic" gain, drive the A

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Questions

2021-04-29 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 8:20 PM John Reilly wrote: > I have two K3 questions: > 1. In Data MD, AFSk A, you can set the baud rate to either 45 or 75. > Is the baud rate just for the RTTY reader? Yes Does it affect anything else? > No. 2. With my K3s power set to 100w, RTTY starts at a l

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Questions

2021-04-29 Thread Ken K6MR
; Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 20:21 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Questions I have two K3 questions: 1. In Data MD, AFSk A, you can set the baud rate to either 45 or 75. Is the baud rate just for the RTTY reader? Does it affect a

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Questions

2021-04-29 Thread John Reilly
I have two K3 questions:    1. In Data MD, AFSk A, you can set the baud rate to either 45 or 75. Is the baud rate just for the RTTY reader? Does it affect anything else?    2. With my K3s power set to 100w, RTTY starts at a little below 50w and and then fairly slowly builds to 100w (measured on

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Setup: Solutions

2020-06-20 Thread Ian Kahn
John, Have you submitted these items as a bug report to the N1MM Logger+ developer team? I bet they would appreciate hearing about your issue. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 6:00 PM John Reilly wrote: > Here are the solutions to my questions: > 1. FSK/AFSK Mode - The solution was to s

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Setup: Solutions

2020-06-20 Thread John Reilly
Here are the solutions to my questions: 1. FSK/AFSK Mode - The solution was to set the RTTY mode in N1MM to AFSK 2. Intermittent failure to go to receive after transmit: There are at least three ways to setup the K3 and N1MM for RTTY AFSK PTT:     a. Use Serial RTS for PTT     b. Use "PTT via R

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Setup

2020-06-20 Thread Peter Lock
Hi John, experienced this once or twice myself. There is a setting in N1MM+ to check. From the N1MM+ log entry window, select Config, Mode Control and in the combo box against "Mode RTTY" select "AFSK" for the appropriate Radio/VFO. That may also resolve your hung PTT; VOX should then work. Good

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY setup

2020-06-19 Thread Paul Antos
These are N1MM + questions. The mode selection is in the N1MM / MMTTY configuration. The hanging PTT is from multiple instances of PTT asserted. I had this problem with my IC-7610, but I had too many PTTs in the configuration. N1MM documentation should contain specific documentation for setup

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Setup

2020-06-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
1) Are you changing bands on the rig or by using N1MM+? a) If "rig" - Data Mode is stored by band. Change it on each band. b) If "N1MM+" - be sure to set "Digital Modes" to AFSK Second, the K3 is staying in Transmit after the RTTY message is finished. I usually have to press the XMIT butt

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY Setup

2020-06-19 Thread John Reilly
I've recently changed from FSK to AFSK, and having issues. FWIW, I am using N1MM with 2Tone as my RTTY interface, with the K3 internal sound card. First, When I go to DATA MD, it is always set to FSK D. I reset it to AFSK A and it works; however, if I change bands, it resets itself to FSK D. T

[Elecraft] K3 Rtty

2017-06-05 Thread Larry Boekeloo
I've been running my K3 and my RIg Expert TI-5 for several years with no issues.  Ever since I upgraded to the latest K3 software, the display now reads PTT ERR after unkeying in RTTY mode. Any ideas? Larry, KN8N __ Elecraft mailing lis

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode

2016-03-18 Thread Hank Garretson
Good friend K1GQ wondered out loud about real data comparing K3 RTTY decode to software decoders. Here is fifteen minutes of real data. Attachment 1. K3 decode captured by K3 Utility program. K3 width 400 Hz. Didn't fiddle with K3 decode parameters--used factory defaults. Attachment 2. MMTTY deco

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode

2016-03-18 Thread Kevin Stover
I don't know where the idea started that the decode algorithm in the K3(s) would be a good as a stand alone dedicated program like MMTTY. It won't ever be simply from a processor and memory point of view. I'm sure the Elecraft principals have made no such claim so why do people still expect it?

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode

2016-03-18 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,3/18/2016 7:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We included RTTY/PSK decode/encode in the K3/K3S/KX3 to expand the range of conversational, no-PC-required digital modes available to the operator. I virtually always do RTTY with MMTTY and 2Tone, but I also watch the K3 decoder, and find it to q

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode

2016-03-18 Thread Wayne Burdick
We included RTTY/PSK decode/encode in the K3/K3S/KX3 to expand the range of conversational, no-PC-required digital modes available to the operator. I'm glad that our high-efficiency, convenient implementation suffices for many QSOs and casual contest operation. If the communication requirements

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY NO DVR message on memory

2015-10-11 Thread Joe Moffatt
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:03 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY NO DVR message on memory When using RTTY, usually I can hit M1 to give my callsign like in CW mode But today that quit working, but it still works in CW mode Anyone have any idea what I did wrong? It displa

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY NO DVR message on memory

2015-10-11 Thread Joe Moffatt
When using RTTY, usually I can hit M1 to give my callsign like in CW mode But today that quit working, but it still works in CW mode Anyone have any idea what I did wrong? It displays NO DVR when I do that. Joe AB5OR __ Elecr

[Elecraft] K3 - RTTY Mark frequency not at 2125, as set (FSK)

2015-09-19 Thread conwell
Disregard my earlier post - was a case of being upside down. (Now I know where to find it: CONFIG: FSK 0=inverted; 1=correct.) Tnx who those who replied off-list. /Bill, K2PO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailma

[Elecraft] K3 - RTTY Mark frequency not at 2125, as set (FSK)

2015-09-19 Thread conwell
I tried setting up FSK rtty today for first time in a long while, and found I had a problem. I have a pair of K3 rigs on the desk. No trouble with one. On the other, Mark tone is sent higher than 2125. (It's high enough up that my 2d rig can't decode the TX signal. Maybe around 2600 Hz)

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-23 Thread Brian F. Wruble
I find briefly touching the "SUB" button terminates the extra 4 seconds. Not sure why. 73 de Brian W3BW *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Bill Lewis wrote: > Any info on eliminating the 4 second span of diddles present at the end of > transmission when using a mes

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-23 Thread Jim N7US
Unlike Yaesu radios I've had, I've never had to change the polarity of my K3 or any program, including MMTTY, to reverse for FSK (FSK D in the K3). 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Robert, that's wrong. Using push buttons/memories from the K3 frontpanel all the time on FSK-D if I just

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
I am not familiar with the acronym "POL" - please edify me. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/22/2015 9:23 PM, Robert Wood wrote: RTTY & K3 buttons - how do you fare on FSK POL setting? M1-4 buttons, FSK POL = 0 K3 Utility program FSK POL =0 FSK via ACC port FSK POL=1 __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
There's a way to do this from within K3 Utility's "Terminal" screen (see its Help info). 73, Wayne N6KR On May 22, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Allan Zadiraka wrote: > Wayne > > How do you send ..-- from a keyboard? > > zeke > ab8ou > > Allan Zadiraka > > AJ ZADIRAKA LLC > 4110 State RdAkron, O

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, Record an "IM" (no letter space) character at the end of the message. If using the K3Utility to enter the message text, end it with "|" and that message will work fine for CW, RTTY, and PSK. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/22/2015 4:51 PM, Bill Lewis wrote: Any info on eliminating the 4 second span

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-22 Thread Allan Zadiraka
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[Elecraft] K3 RTTY Message Button Diddles

2015-05-22 Thread Bill Lewis
Any info on eliminating the 4 second span of diddles present at the end of transmission when using a message push button and RTTY would be appreciates. Thanks, Bill W8NN - K line happy camper ;>) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://m

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-08 Thread Ed Muns
EXTFSK is only required if a USB-Serial interface is used which doesn't have an adequate UART implementation to support 45 baud and the 5-bit code. The Digi International Edgeport/4 and /8 interfaces work fine without EXTFSK. The microHam interfaces also work fine without the EXTFSK module. Ed W0

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
MMTTY requires "EXTFSK" to be added to the MMTTY folder for it to be functional for FSK. Absolutely incorrect with microHAM microKEYER II and Digikeyer II. Both interfaces provide a UART interface that works like a COM Port capable of handling 45.45 baud. Please see the example configuration

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-08 Thread Ed
Mike You are stating that you are trying to use FSK. MMTTY requires "EXTFSK" to be added to the MMTTY folder for it to be functional for FSK. Also EXTFSK needs to be configured. A small window will appear showing the lead assignments. These must agree with the com port assignments associa

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-08 Thread Mike Harris
Paul, I have used the microHAM digi keyer II with the K3 and MMTTY within Logger32 and using the K3 cable BD15-EL-K3. There are detailed configuration documents on the microHAM web site for a variety of applications. You do not need any level changers. It is all done in the DK II. When I

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul, Make a test connector from a DB15 connector - so you can manually short between pin 1 and pin 5 - do not connect the Microham supplied cable. Start the 'send' process, listen for the single tone, then short between pin 1 and pin 5 - the tone should change. If it does, than the K3 is OK,

[Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-07 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
Don - The Output of DK II is connected to the K3 ACC port using a DB15-EL-K3 cable supplied by microHam with the DK II. 73 Paulkc2nyu --Paul, Details on how you are connecting the DKII FSK output to the K3 please. A quick perusal of the DKII information indicates

Re: [Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul, Details on how you are connecting the DKII FSK output to the K3 please. A quick perusal of the DKII information indicates to me that the FSK output is from a computer COM port - which to me indicates that it is RS-232 levels. Those RS-232 levels must be converted to TTL levels by a "one

[Elecraft] K3-RTTY-No Diddles

2015-02-07 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
Ihave a K3 (entire K-Line). Win 7 PC 3.5ghz processor 16gb ram; MicroHam DKII Interface. Withthis setup I am able to successfully do PSK31 using HRD-DM780, WSJT-X andJT65HF, WSPR and run N1MM+ successfully in SSB and CW - both RX & TX. Myproblem is with MMTTY both running byitself or as the engi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,12/26/2014 5:26 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: I appreciate information also. I am using K3 + N1MM + MMTTY + Tascam soundcard and can RX but I couldn´t transmit on the K3 Hello Jorge, How do you put the K3 in TX mode? There are two ways -- VOX or via an additional serial port? I use V

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Eric Norris
der (PA0PJE) [mailto:pa0...@xs4all.nl] >Enviado el: sábado, 27 de diciembre de 2014 11:27 a.m. >Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help > >Try this one, Jorge, > >http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/MMTTY%20v1.68A%20and%20Elecraft%20

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
- CX6VM; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help Try this one, Jorge, http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/MMTTY%20v1.68A%20and%20Elecraft%20K3%20Setup%20with%20Lenovo.pdf Otherwise you could just use http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/ and pick the file you want to use. Dell was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
-Mensaje original- De: Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) [mailto:pa0...@xs4all.nl] Enviado el: sábado, 27 de diciembre de 2014 11:27 a.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help Try this one, Jorge, http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/MMTTY

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help Try this one, Jorge, http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/MMTTY%20v1.68A%20and%20Elecraft%20K3%20Setup%20with%20Lenovo.pdf Otherwise you could just use http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/ and pick the file you want to use. Dell was no longer there in the file name... that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
Try this one, Jorge, http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/MMTTY%20v1.68A%20and%20Elecraft%20K3%20Setup%20with%20Lenovo.pdf Otherwise you could just use http://www.n3me.net/pdf%20files/ and pick the file you want to use. Dell was no longer there in the file name... that why it didn't work. 73, Peter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-27 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
- De: Bruce & Gab [mailto:ockm...@verizon.net] Enviado el: sábado, 27 de diciembre de 2014 12:15 a.m. Para: 'Jorge Diez - CX6VM'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: RE: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help http://www.n3me.net/howto.htm Here is another link with step by step instructions for N1M

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-26 Thread Bruce & Gab
: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 20:26 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help Hello I appreciate information also. I am using K3 + N1MM + MMTTY + Tascam soundcard and can RX but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-26 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
] En nombre de Bruce & Gab Enviado el: viernes, 26 de diciembre de 2014 04:29 p.m. Para: 'Steve Lett'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help http://www.k5nd.net/2013/08/fsk-interface/ Check out K5NDs link above. He shows a simple schematic for a RTTY (FSK)

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-26 Thread Phil Anderson
Steve: I too am a new owner of a k3 kit and just got it going couple of weeks ago. You will enjoy this radio. I too will be looking at N1MM, etc so can operate via keyboard part of the time during contests. In the meantime, regarding RTTY, why don't you try using your CW paddle to send and t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-26 Thread Bruce & Gab
Behalf Of Steve Lett Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 13:18 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help I have a new K3. I very much like the quality of this radio but it is over my non-technical head. Are there step-by-step instructions that would tell me how to configure the

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY-CW Help

2014-12-26 Thread Steve Lett
I have a new K3. I very much like the quality of this radio but it is over my non-technical head. Are there step-by-step instructions that would tell me how to configure the radio for RTTY using MMTTY software? I am also looking for easy to follow instructions to configure CW using CWDecoder softwa

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY PROBLEM

2014-12-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bert, I suspect that you did not have the K3 mark frequency set to match that which was set in MMTTY. The PITCH button will allow you to change the K3 mark frequency to match that used in MMTTY. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/21/2014 5:53 PM, Bert via Elecraft wrote: I tried to get on the OK DX RTTY

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY PROBLEM

2014-12-21 Thread Bert via Elecraft
I tried to get on the OK DX RTTY contest this weekend using my K3. I used N1MM+ with MMTTY and configured MMTTY as usual. Hit the TX button in MMTTY, the K3 went into transmit mode with no output! I'm using FW version 5.01 on the K3. I eventually resolved the problem, but don't know the reason

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2014-12-09 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Sure. Use the "Pitch" control. Be sure to make a commensurate change in the RTTY program; both TX and RX. Wes N7WS On 12/9/2014 4:29 AM, Terry Burkholder wrote: Is there any way to use tones other than 2125 to receive RTTY signals? I can no longer hear frequencies that high. I know the FT-10

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2014-12-09 Thread Terry Burkholder
Is there any way to use tones other than 2125 to receive RTTY signals? I can no longer hear frequencies that high. I know the FT-1000 MP has a menu option to select lower tones for RTTY RX. I can't find any menu option in the K3 that allows you to change the RX tones. 73 Terry N4TB _

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Help

2014-11-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, The problem source may be in something related to your external setup. Remove all connections from the K3 - does it behave normally? Then add back the external connections one at a time to see which one creates the problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/20/2014 9:31 PM, Steve Lett wrote: I was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Help

2014-11-20 Thread Bill Frantz
It sounds like what ever system you are using to key the transmitter isn't letting go. Please provide more details about your setup. Are you doing RTTY with the K3 alone, using CW paddles to send? Are you using a sound card to process the audio out? 73 Bill AE6JV On 11/20/14 at 6:31 PM, st...

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY Help

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Lett
I was trying to set my K3 for RTTY. By changing the menu settings, somehow I have put my K3 in transmit mode and now cannot change the VFO B or A Menu or Config settings to get it to stop transmitting. I turned the K3 off but when I turn it on, it goes into transmit mode. What can I do to get my K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY 4 Second Delay

2014-10-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
The IM prosign can also be inserted at the end of CW/DATA messages using the message editor in K3 and KX3 Utility. I believe it's the "|" (pipe) character. This character is not sent on the air when it appears in a message memory, and in DATA mode it is not sent at all, even when inserted "live"

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY 4 Second Delay

2014-10-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
Send "..--" ("IM" pro sign, with the I and M concatenated). You can think of it as "IMmediately terminate transmission". If you have trouble sending this character, trying thinking of it as sending the number 2, but leaving off the last dash. 73, Wayne N6KR On Oct 31, 2014, at 9:46 AM, "Brian

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY 4 Second Delay

2014-10-31 Thread Brian F. Wruble
I am sure this has been asked and answered, so sorry... Is there any way to truncate the 4 second delay when operating the K3 in RTTY in FSK-D mode. The carrier stays on 4 seconds after the last character has been sent. Is there a setting to reduce that? Is there a keystroke or character to se

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Not as I read the article - The article was written before the latest update to the K3 FSK generating DSP code in MCU 4.66 released 2013-03-22. The article is simply out of date. The release notes for 4.66 say: FSK-D KEYING BANDWIDTH GREATLY REDUCED: This change reduces the amplitude of th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Kjeld Holm
"The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad connections, grounding issues, or distortion from over drive. However, with the K3 one can get the same narrow transmit spectrum by using FSK without the issues of AFSK." Written by Joe Subich, W4TV Not as I read the article - but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Essentially AFSK will need to be used the same as FSK, tuning not > mousing. As it should be ... With AFSK TX = FIL OFF you can wander around the waterfall if you wish. Not necessarily the best idea for the reasons given by Joe. Among other reasons for *not* using wideband transmit and mou

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2014-06-09 6:40 AM, Ken Chandler wrote: > I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your running AFSK and 2tone !! Not true! If one is running AFSK *always use AFSK A* and set CONFIG:AFSK TX = FIL On. The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad connec

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Ken Chandler
Kjeld et al I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your running AFSK and 2tone !! Ken.. G0ORH Sent from my iPad > On 9 Jun 2014, at 11:01, "Kjeld Holm" wrote: > > For the RTTY people, > You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info. > In ARRL National Conte

[Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Kjeld Holm
For the RTTY people, You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info. In ARRL National Contest Journal September/October 2013 issue on page 3 to 7 the article RTTY Spectrum Measurement is discussing bandwidth issues and other issues regarding transmission of RTTY. For the ones of you w

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2014 5:30 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Even cheap sound cards deliver essentially pure sine wave audio, Not quite. I've measured audio distortion at -30dB re: carrier for a reasonably OK laptop sound card just below clip. That means you have spurs only 30 dB below your signal. Not very goo

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-24 Thread Fred Jensen
Well ... I'm not sure FSK is actually "foolproof," based on the number of posts to this list about problems getting FSK running using various external interfaces. It is true that AFSK is "Audio in/out" and can overdrive things, not easy in a K3 but certainly possible. Even cheap sound cards d

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-24 Thread Wes (N7WS)
FSK might not have "excess" bandwidth, but AFSK can have narrower bandwidth. http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html#K3_AFSK_filter On 3/24/2014 5:27 AM, Barry wrote: Fred, If set correctly, there's no difference. However, FSK is foolproof. It can't be overdriven with excessi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-24 Thread Barry
Fred, If set correctly, there's no difference. However, FSK is foolproof. It can't be overdriven with excessive audio input resulting in excess bandwidth and spurs. Some of it is historical, as in some older radios, narrow filters cannot be used in AFSK mode. Barry w2UP -- View this message i

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-23 Thread Fred Jensen
Yes, the K3 certainly allows a multitude of modes, and within each mode, several ways of doing it. I'd really like to know ... no hidden aspersions here ... what the difference is between direct FSK and AFSK. I use AFSK with two RadioShack stereo cables between the laptop and the radio. N1MM

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-23 Thread Barry
Wes, I'm not an AFSK fan, so it would be another COM port for FSK/PTT plus a box with a couple of 2N's for the FSK and PTT lines. I'm satisfied with my pre-programmed Mx buffers with callsign, 599, TU, etc. for the few RTTY QSOs I make these days. 73, Barry W2UP P.S. I don't use a straight ke

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-23 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Congratulations on your achievement; very impressive. But what "rat's nest of cables to external boxes"? Sure you need a computer, but who doesn't log using one these days? After that, it's two cables from the Line In/Line Out of the radio to the same on the computer. Same number of cables

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-23 Thread Ray Sills
I have to agree with Barry. For a modest amount of code space (Flash RAM), they added a very useful capability for the casual or field operator. I once worked a DX RTTY station via FSK-D mode with paddle "keyboard". I could not have done that QSO any other way at that time. The QSO was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-23 Thread Barry
Wes (N7WS) wrote > No comparison. IMHO, wasted effort by Elecraft Engineering. > > Wes N7WS Not at all a wasted effort. I used to be an active RTTY DXer (RTTY DXCC TOHR, all but BS7) and contester, but in my condo QTH, I just don't have the room or desire for a rat's nest of cables to externa

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-22 Thread Bill Frantz
The P3 works really well for tuning RTTY signals for the K3 to decode. Adjust the Span so you can easily see both frequencies and lay the band on top of the waterfall. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV (who would be in a world of hurt without the P3) On 3/21/14 at 11:07 PM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Ji

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/21/2014 9:05 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: No comparison. IMHO, wasted effort by Elecraft Engineering. My observations have been exactly thee opposite. I find that when I have a RTTY signal carefully tuned in, the K3 decoder often beats MMTTY. The carefully tuned part is critical, and I find tha

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Bill Breeden
x27;t know if I would feel the same way if I didn't have a P3. I find the P3 an almost indispensable tuning indicator for the digital modes. 73, Bill - NA5DX Original message: From: Jim Hoge To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode I have played just a b

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Dave Barr
More like the rumble seat. Dave, K2YG Original message: From: Jim Hoge To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode I have played just a bit with the rtty via cw function of the K3 and am curious if my casual observations match those of others. It appears

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Brian Hunt
I've found the K3 decode is adequate for casual contacts like W1AW/x when I find them. Tuning is a bit touchy and the incoming signal needs to be strong. Good for a quickie, though. I use the paddle for xmit. 73, Brian, K0DTJ > I have played just a bit with the rtty via cw function of the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Phil Wheeler
But handy in a portable rig. Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:05, "Wes (N7WS)" wrote: > > No comparison. IMHO, wasted effort by Elecraft Engineering. > > Wes N7WS > >> On 3/21/2014 8:45 AM, Jim Hoge wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I have played just a bit with the rtty via

Re: [Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Wes (N7WS)
No comparison. IMHO, wasted effort by Elecraft Engineering. Wes N7WS On 3/21/2014 8:45 AM, Jim Hoge wrote: Greetings, I have played just a bit with the rtty via cw function of the K3 and am curious if my casual observations match those of others. It appears that the K3 onboard decoder takes

[Elecraft] K3 rtty decode vs: computer decode

2014-03-21 Thread Jim Hoge
Greetings, I have played just a bit with the rtty via cw function of the K3 and am curious if my casual observations match those of others. It appears that the K3 onboard decoder takes a back seat in rtty decode ability to a radio/computer/mtty combination. Agree/disagree/thoughts? 73, Jim W5Q

[Elecraft] K3 - RTTY keying quit - FSK D

2014-03-01 Thread Pfizenmayer
Worked RTTY fime Thursday night - started to work a W1AW on RTTY last night and PTT was working but only carrier no FSK. Using direct FSK not AFSK. FSK D confirmed on menu. Shorting FSK pin 4 to ground - no freq change - open circuit voltage on pin 4 about 3.6 volts but source impedance VERY

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Harris
I use RTTY a lot and have not experienced this. The 45/75 setting is remembered per band. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 29/10/2013 10:32, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Randy, Same problem here. I thought I had figured out how to keep it at 45 baud but I was mistaken. It always reverts back to 75. I'm using

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Randy, Same problem here. I thought I had figured out how to keep it at 45 baud but I was mistaken. It always reverts back to 75. I'm using AFSK so it isn't really a problem but I have the P3 with SVGA option and I normally have the data display turned on. I'd rather see a correct decode instea

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Randy Moore
Last night I returned to 20m RTTY for the first time in several days and the baud rate had reverted to 75 bps. I am certain it was 45 the last time I was there. ??? 73, Randy, KS4L > On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Rick Prather wrote: > > Randy, > > I think you will find it is a per band setti

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-24 Thread Rick Prather
Randy, I think you will find it is a per band setting. So, once you set it to 45 it should be the same when you come back to that band. Rick K6LE On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Randy Moore wrote: > I have been playing with RTTY a bit lately (novice) using the K3's > decode/readout and send

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-23 Thread Randy Moore
I have been playing with RTTY a bit lately (novice) using the K3's decode/readout and sending with my paddle. It works great for casual QSOs and quick DXing. But I've noticed that the baud rate reverts to 75 (from 45) frequently. I am using DXLab and frequently click on spots there, but that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RTTY FSK-D power

2013-07-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The K3 power calibration is done at CW (key down) but FSK includes a bit of shaping to reduce key clicks. That adds just a bit of peak to average power difference and would account for a small difference between CW and FSK. I measure just under 1 watt difference at 80 W between CW and FSK con

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RTTY FSK-D power

2013-07-21 Thread iw1ayd - Salvatore Irato
Hi Hank and all. It's almost the same as I see it here on the KPA500 PWR diplay. Diddling RTTY FSK signal make the K3 Pout bubbling a bit. When at a steady 80W Pout without of FSK without diddle I add the diddle the KPA500 move very fast around 80W. I couldn't appreciate the real numbers as th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RTTY FSK-D power

2013-07-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Hank, My initial guess is that it is your Powermaster. I have recently built a 4 State QRP QRPometer to use when testing QRP transmitters. It is an accurate meter as long as the waveform is a good sine wave (Good CW signal), but I have also discovered that it does not read correctly if the wa

[Elecraft] K3 - RTTY FSK-D power

2013-07-19 Thread Pfizenmayer
If I set power to 100 watts on CW the K3 setting and my Array Solutions Powermaster power meter read the same within a watt or two. Leaving the K3 power set at 100 watts on CW and switch to DATA and run MMTTY diddles , the Powermaster is reading 116 watts. Sending RTTY text it bounces betwee

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-09 Thread Tony Kennedy
I'm surprised you could hear the tones through the rig with the wrong mic setting. Glad you got it resolved! -KD0TSX On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Mike Reublin wrote: > To all who offered help and encouragement, a great big thank-you! > > The secret was in setting MIC SEL to line in. Dunno how I mi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Reublin
To all who offered help and encouragement, a great big thank-you! The secret was in setting MIC SEL to line in. Dunno how I missed it, but I did. Listen carefully, and you'll hear the sound of a self administered double dope-slap. 73, Mike NF4L On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Mike Reublin wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Wes Stewart
he K3 actually going into transmit (red light on)? Wes --- On Mon, 7/8/13, Mike Reublin wrote: > From: Mike Reublin > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY > To: "Elecraft Reflector" > Date: Monday, July 8, 2013, 2:53 PM > Thanks to some excellent suggestions, > I was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Richard Neese
On 7/8/2013 5:17 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote: Is The vox on? On Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM, "Mike K2MK" wrote: Hi Mike, If you hear the tones in the K3 speaker then I assume you mean that you are hearing them through the monitor. This tells me that the tones are getting through to the K3 and that you a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Gerald Manthey
Is The vox on? On Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM, "Mike K2MK" wrote: > Hi Mike, > > If you hear the tones in the K3 speaker then I assume you mean that you are > hearing them through the monitor. This tells me that the tones are getting > through to the K3 and that you are in transmit (red light). If you ar

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Mike, If you hear the tones in the K3 speaker then I assume you mean that you are hearing them through the monitor. This tells me that the tones are getting through to the K3 and that you are in transmit (red light). If you are in DATA Mode AFSK A you should be able to adjust the MIC knob on th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, Was that a plain USB soundcard, or is it a digital interface box (like SignaLink, RigBlaster, etc.)? If it is a digital interface box, most of those are set for microphone level output, so dig into the documentation and find out how to set it for Line Level output. Line level is 50 to 1

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Kennedy
What's power and mic gain settings? It's not in Test mode is it? -KD0TSX On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mike Reublin wrote: > Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, > but transmit is still a no-go. > > I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY

2013-07-08 Thread Mike Reublin
Thanks to some excellent suggestions, I was able to get receive working, but transmit is still a no-go. I cannot get an ALC indication. I've run the sound card volume up and down it's range. I can hear the tones thru the K3 speaker, so they're getting in. It's got to be something so simple I'll

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY setup

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Estep
Mike, MMTTY expects the transceiver to be set to LSB. If yours is set to USB, click the REV button in MMTTY Tony KT0NY On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Mike Reublin wrote: > I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK A. > I have a Mac, he's running Win XP. > > I ad

[Elecraft] [K3] RTTY setup

2013-07-07 Thread Mike Reublin
I'm trying to help a new K3 owner set up for RTTY using MMTTY and AFSK A. I have a Mac, he's running Win XP. I added a USB sound card (mic and fones) and stereo cables in and out. Win recognizes it, and I chose it in MMTTY and Win. Mark and space agree. Vox is on, and the vox settings should b

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