Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread pd0psb
I've seen some ballistic radios working very well. You don't notice it untill you really spin the wheel making very clear you want to QSY. Other radios tend to get nervous and seem to skid on it. It's a matter of choosing the best switch-over point in relation to encoder/speed/user. The option

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread N2TK
I like it. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wayne burdick Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:23 AM To: Ken Kopp Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; d...@w3fpr.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Brendan Minish
I have used radios with ballistic tuning and if implemented well it's a pleasure to use. my Icom 756pro2 did this as did the 7800 my Racal ra3702 has ballistic tuning too but the jumps up in tuning rate are too large and occur at the wrong rotation speeds so it's a bit of a nuisance on this

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread Merv Schweigert
As usual it seems the thread has mutated into different conceptions of what is going on. Ballistic tuning is when the knob is turned faster the freq moves faster, I had a FT-847 and the tuning on it was jog shuttle an extra ring around the tuning knob that would move freq very fast depending

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
make that two -- 73 de M0XDF On 27 May 2009, at 20:56, Merv Schweigert wrote: As usual it seems the thread has mutated into different conceptions of what is going on. Ballistic tuning is when the knob is turned faster the freq moves faster, I had a FT-847 and the tuning on it was jog

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread Craig D. Smith
The ballistic is much different, there is no learning curve and works well, you don't even know its there unless you spin the dial fast. It would be like a no hands rate button. I for one vote for it. I like it as well on my ICOM rig, and would be in favor of including it on the K3. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Bill NY9H
2 votes for a good ballistic tuning VFO , ( defeatable) icom does do it very well on the 756 7800 bill ny9h __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread Andrew Faber
VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT) As usual it seems the thread has mutated into different conceptions of what is going on. Ballistic tuning is when the knob is turned faster the freq moves faster, I had a FT-847 and the tuning on it was jog shuttle an extra ring around

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
On May 26, 2009 Wayne wrote: -This is referred to as ballistic tuning. We experimented with it but -rejected it when we did the K2 design. I haven't tried it on the K3 -yet, but I've added it to my list. - -73, -Wayne -N6KR Back in Jan 2008 there was a discussion of this on the reflector, and on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread Phil LaMarche
#1605 CCA 98 00827 W9DVM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Craig D. Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:57 PM To: 'Merv Schweigert' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Barry McWilliams
I know you don't want to keep a thread going with a me too, but I'd like to enter my vote FOR ballistic tuning as implemented by ICOM. Thanks, Barry K8LEF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-27 Thread Rob May
I loved ballistic tuning on my Icoms, add me to the pro ballistic list. Rob NV5E _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
The ballistic tuning methods I have experienced all suffered from jumpy rates. If the tuning rate increase was *a smooth proportional increase* with the knob speed increase and the reverse, I think people would love it. I would think setting 25 or 50 narrow bands of increase would feel

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread drewko
I would be happy to have an additional coarse tuning rate of 1 MHz-per-turn, no matter how it is implemented, either by spinning the knob faster or pushbutton selection. 73, Drew AF2Z On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:03:46 -0400 (EDT), Mike AC6JA wrote: I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
ac...@aol.com wrote: I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the VFO knob is spun? Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't? I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO tuning rate increases with the speed of the knob, kinda nice! I have a Sangean ATS 83 that does

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
This is referred to as ballistic tuning. We experimented with it but rejected it when we did the K2 design. I haven't tried it on the K3 yet, but I've added it to my list. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 26, 2009, at 2:28 PM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: ac...@aol.com wrote: I was wondering if the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wayne, I have that ballistic tuning on my Yaesu FT-847 and find it cumbersome to use. It may be that I am just not used to it (I use my K2 and K3 more often, but for right now, operating with a ballistic tuning know is *not* one of the skills I want to have to learn. I am quite happy with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Ken Kopp
A ballistic tuning rate on my K3 would be below the bottom of my wish list. (:-)) It's faster to use the FREQ ENT method, if at all. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5 __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Garrett
Don, I agree wholeheartedly! Ballastic tuning is painful and detracts from the operating experience. Just one man's opinion. 73, Bob K3UL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
One idea already on the list is to have the VFO A and/or VFO B knobs be live after you tap FREQ ENT, so that instead of entering a numeric frequency, you could select the frequency in 1 MHz (VFO A) or 100 kHz (VFO B) steps. Tap FREQ ENT again to return to normal tuning. Wayne N6KR On May 26,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
That would also drive me wild, but then I would not have to use it unless I selected it explicitly, so it is quite palatable to me. Remember the KISS principle - I object to my radio doing magic things for me. 73, Don W3FPR wayne burdick wrote: One idea already on the list is to have the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-25 Thread Grant Youngman
On May 25, 2009, at 11:03 AM, ac...@aol.com wrote: I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the VFO knob is spun? No. Grant/NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-25 Thread Holger Gatternig OE9GHV
I'd also like to see this feature... It is vy comfortable on my pro3. 73 de Holger, OE9GHV ac...@aol.com schrieb: I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the VFO knob is spun? Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't? I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO

Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-25 Thread Stephen Prior
I agree, it was one of the functions of my IC-7400 that I most appreciated. 73, Stephen G4SJP On 25/05/2009 20:57, Holger Gatternig OE9GHV oe9...@gmx.net wrote: I'd also like to see this feature... It is vy comfortable on my pro3. 73 de Holger, OE9GHV ac...@aol.com schrieb: