Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread N2TK, Tony
.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Lambert Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 5:57 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage Likewise - 3 direct hits to the tower and nothing in the house damaged. Radios always plugged in. Do it

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Peter Lambert
-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of j...@kk9a.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 8:12 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Lightening damage Bingo! Of course the tower is not immune from lightning. Mine has taken many direct strikes and it has a number of ground rods. The g

[Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread john
Bingo! Of course the tower is not immune from lightning. Mine has taken many direct strikes and it has a number of ground rods. The ground system gives it a path that is not though your equipment. Also a single point ground and proper bonding as K9YC mentioned will keep everything at the same poten

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Nr4c
Are you sure that they are not being hit, but are so well bonded that the strike goes directly to ground? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:58 AM, wrote: > > Why would lightning avoid striking a grounded tower? > > John KK9A > > Richard Fjeld rpfjeld at outlook.com

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Charlie T
Why would lightning avoid striking a grounded tower? John KK9A Depleted ground charge. THE reason for lightning rods. Chas __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Fred Jensen
I supported myself at university as an engineer at the only TV station in town.  Transmitters [10 KW visual, 5 KW aural] and studio were in a building at the base of a 400' tower on a ridge overlooking town.  Studio wiring was in trenches in the concrete floor covered with fairly heavy steel pl

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/7/2017 9:31 AM, Gmail - George wrote: Any electronics at the top that is connected at the bottom can have that potential on the equipment case (a DC ground loop so to speak) of 100 volts. Most times it is much higher. It is a serious mistake to view lightning as DC. While there MAY be a

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
rge builds up too quickly for it to bleed off harmlessly. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of j...@kk9a.com Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 8:59 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft]

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Gmail - George
Rich, Even massive grounding systems do not keep a tower from being hit! It only mitigates the damage. I was CE of a TV station in South Florida with towers of 1,000' a couple at 500' and several more at 100' to 200'. They all got hit at one time or other. Sometimes many times a year. We used m

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Bayern
> Certain radio and TV services need to operate 24/7 and can't shut down when > lightening threatens. Their grounding methods apparently prevent the towers > from being hit . My experience as a 1st Phone running AM broadcast stations is that the towers _are_ hit by lightning. This was in the earl

[Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread john
Why would lightning avoid striking a grounded tower? John KK9A Richard Fjeld rpfjeld at outlook.com I'm trying to avoid taking anyone's side on this discussion. I wanted to say that I worked for a company that had towers throughout the state which were several hundred feet tall. Over the yea

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-07 Thread Gmail
ail > Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 6:12 PM > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Lightening damage > > I’m sure there are others with more expertise on this subject then me, > however several texts including the new ARRL grounding book say it may be > dange

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-06 Thread Igor Sokolov
I had a direct lightning strike this summer in July. It has also caused fire that created more damage then lightning itself. The interesting thing is that lightning hit not the 20 m tall grounded telescopic mast that had no antenna (it was down for service), but rather metal roof of a shed that

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-06 Thread Richard Fjeld
from being hit . Rich, n0ce -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gmail Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 6:12 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Lightening damage I’m sure there are others with mo

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-06 Thread K9MA
I agree that disconnecting the coax from the antenna inside the house is a bad idea.  All my cables from antennas are permanently connected to a well-grounded and bonded panel in the shack.  I disconnect the coax and control cables from that panel to the radio.  Now, if the tower takes a direct

Re: [Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-06 Thread Fred Jensen
Nearly every direct strike will fry something (or manythings), connected or not.  An arc that could involve a kilometer or two probably isn't going to be deterred by a meter or so of disconnected coax.  The grandson of my Elmer in the early 50's [who now holds his Grandpa's call] became a light

[Elecraft] Lightening damage

2017-11-06 Thread Gmail
I’m sure there are others with more expertise on this subject then me, however several texts including the new ARRL grounding book say it may be dangerous to disconnect antenna coax in the house. It should only be done outside. My daughters vertical was hit by lightening and the lightening leap