Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
ks. > > Brian VE3GMZ > > > > Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android > > > Original Message > > > From: a.dur...@msn.com > Sent: April 5, 2020 1:05 p.m. > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? > > &g

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread brianchapnick
. Again, thanks. Brian VE3GMZ Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android   Original Message   From: a.dur...@msn.com Sent: April 5, 2020 1:05 p.m. To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? "With high power is it your practice to start with

[Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread Andy Durbin
"With high power is it your practice to start with lower levels and work your way up or do you go for broke from the start?" For FT8 I make the initial call with the power that I think is required for the propagation path. If the station replies I may increase or reduce power based on their

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread Rick NK7I
Yes it matters. The short version is that your receiving ability may exceed that of the other stations noise floor. Just because my noise floor is generally -130 or quieter doesn’t mean their noise is equally quiet. If they can’t reduce noise further, you need to present more signal. With

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
4-04 8:19 p.m. (GMT-05:00) > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? > > Frank et al; > > > Just quoted what is in the K3S manual. No interpretation provided. I > agree that 100 watts key down is a lot for a SSB amplif

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-05 Thread brianchapnick
. To: brianchapn...@rogers.com Cc: rmcg...@blomand.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? Because it’s weak signal at the receiving end; you use what power it takes to succeed in making the contact, up to the legal limit. On 160M, 1500 watts out is common

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Dave Cole
p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? Frank et al;Just quoted what is in the K3S manual.   No interpretation provided.   I agree that 100 watts key down is a lot for a SSB amplifier running in CW mode.   To me that says 100 watts

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/4/2020 9:01 PM, brianchapnick wrote: This discussion fascinates me only in that I wonder why you are using so much power for weak signal modes? 5 or 10 watts should be plenty even with a compromised antenna and poor band conditions..or am I missing somthing. Yes. "Weak signal" does

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Rick NK7I
Original message From: Bob McGraw K4TAX > Date: 2020-04-04 8:19 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: > elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S > 100? Frank et al;Just quoted what is in the K3S manual. No interpretation > provided. I agree

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread brianchapnick
message From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Date: 2020-04-04 8:19 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100? Frank et al;Just quoted what is in the K3S manual.   No interpretation provided.   I agree that 100 watts key down is a lot

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Frank et al; Just quoted what is in the K3S manual.   No interpretation provided.   I agree that 100 watts key down is a lot for a SSB amplifier running in CW mode.   To me that says 100 watts for 10 minutes and then RX for 10 minutes.   Otherwise equal TX and RX times.   Who does that?

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Running FT-8 or PSK-31, I see 60 C from time to time.   Some bands I see the temp rise much faster indicating less efficiency. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 4/4/2020 5:03 PM, Dave Cole wrote: What is the recommended temp to run the KPA500 at? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Andy et al; Just quoted what is in the K3S manual.   No interpretation provided.   I agree that 100 watts key down is a lot for a SSB amplifier running in CW mode.   To me that says 100 watts for 10 minutes and then RX for 10 minutes.   Otherwise equal TX and RX times.   Who does that? I

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Dave Cole
What is the recommended temp to run the KPA500 at? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 4/4/20 3:01 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: "Does "100% - 10 min, 100 W key-down" mean that if

[Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Andy Durbin
"Does "100% - 10 min, 100 W key-down" mean that if you key down without stop in CW mode it can go 10 minutes at 100 watts? That seems like an awful lot." If you want to know what it actually means you'd probably have to run a test and record the PA temperature. Does it reach maximum value

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread Frank O'Donnell
Thanks for the replies. I've enabled the PA temp display (currently showing 22C right after power-up but before transmitting), and will keep an eye on that. Bob, I noticed that line in the K3S manual about the CW/SSB duty cycle. Does "100% - 10 min, 100 W key-down" mean that if you key down

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-04 Thread John Simmons
Fred Cady's book: "There are four fans speeds that turn on at different temperatures." "If the temperature reaches 84 degrees C the KPA3 will be bypassed until the temperature falls to stop any damage as a last-ditch backup measure to protect your expensive power transistors from the excess

Re: [Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-03 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Frank: The duty cycle for the transmitter, as stated in the manual, is;  CW and SSB modes, 100% - 10 min, 100 W key-down at 25C ambient.   Do note that 6M has reduce power values of 85 watts {51 -52 MHz} or 70 watts {52 - 54 MHz} The duty cycle for JT-9, 1 minute transmit, 1 minute receive

[Elecraft] Max power for JT9 with K3S 100?

2020-04-03 Thread Frank O'Donnell
I've been using JT9 mode on 630m this winter with my K3S outputting to an external class D amp. Now I'm interested in trying some JT9 QSOs with some people currently operating on 160m. For me this would mean outputting directly from the K3S (with internal tuner) to the antenna. Given the