Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-27 Thread Tom Azlin W7SUA
Have a slice of a core memory module here. ... somewhere. Of course took drafting and electronics in high school as well as wood shop. First computer I used was an IBM 1130. Learned how to build a machine language initial boot card where the 12 hole positions in a column could give me 80 short

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-27 Thread Doug Person
Fascinating walk through the past. I took mechanical drawing in my freshman year. Our high school was 4 years and no junior high. Mechanical drawing was by far my favorite class. I learned a lot about dimensions, angles, areas - basic geometry. It made math make sense. My first novice station

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread MIKE ZANE
I KNEW that would get a response. :) Mike > On 04/26/2021 8:37 PM SteveL wrote: > > > Sorry, > We are wading through and reminiscing about our early engineering training in > the 1960’s and into the 1970’s… > > The CRC? A thick book of tables of computed values. If you wanted to know > t

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread SteveL
Sorry, We are wading through and reminiscing about our early engineering training in the 1960’s and into the 1970’s… The CRC? A thick book of tables of computed values. If you wanted to know the sine of some value? You could look it up. The same for logarithm, root, other trig functions, an

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/26/2021 11:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: Or PDP-8 on paper tape after toggling in the boot loader through the front panel switches? Sorry, mine was a Varian 620/i (8K of 16 bit words) used for nodes in a circuit switched data network (Tymnet). :-) Memories of a USAF Message Center (mid-196

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Mark Musick
l and monitor the HV transmission system. 69kV - 765kV. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of MIKE ZANE Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 21:13 To: Bill Frantz ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread MIKE ZANE
What the heck are all those things you guys are talking about? Mike n6zw > On 04/26/2021 11:18 AM Bill Frantz wrote: > > > OK, I can't resist any longer. > > On 4/26/21 at 11:33 AM, lawr...@woh.rr.com (SteveL) wrote: > > >Who carried around a CRC book of tables of various calculations in lie

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Louandzip via Elecraft
HP-35!  Hah. Came out my second year in college. $400. The rich kids got them. That's over $2k in 2021 dollars. I had to keep stroking my slide rule for another year until the Ti SR50 came out.  I waited in line with a bunch of other nerds at the doors of Macy's (!) when they had a sale on them

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Gwen Patton
My slide rule at the time was a Sterling pocket model I got at the drugstore for $2. I carried it in my bag or a jacket pocket. Now I have over 100 of the things, including the venerable K&R 20" log-log duplex decitrig mentioned in Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit Will Travel". Another Heinlein book th

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Gwen Patton
I remember those classes, though I never took one. I wish I had, now. I understand completely about the changes in our world. In the early 80's, my college got an IBM PC through an educational program, and I was tapped to set it up and use it in the library office. While learning what this box cou

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread John Saxon via Elecraft
I have greatly enjoyed the memory fest here.  Wasn't going to join in, but, Steve, your email really hit close to home.  I replied to Steve, intended for whole group. Took 'Mechanical Drawing' in Jr. high, loved it.  Also had drawing classes (course also included slide rule) first semester of

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Timothy Elwell
From what I've seen, I guess I'm the baby of the drafting class guys. HI HI I took drafting in HS in 1988. Luckily, had a great teacher that was really good at teaching drafting, even in that "late" time. Still have all my drawings from that class rolled up somewhere around here. Made the draft

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread eberbari
Well, I too could not resist this thread. I took drafting in my senior year (1967) as did all those who identified as wanting to be an engineer. I did OK. Even got hired by the city engineer and helped to redraw all of the city standards for sidewalks, driveway approaches, etc. However, I did g

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Bill Frantz
OK, I can't resist any longer. On 4/26/21 at 11:33 AM, lawr...@woh.rr.com (SteveL) wrote: Who carried around a CRC book of tables of various calculations in lieu of an unaffordable scientific calculator? Yup. Or programming FORTRAN on punch cards? Yup. At first on a IBM 650 with a 4 pass co

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/24/2021 6:11 AM, Barry wrote: High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne:-) Barry W2UP (HS class of '74) Mere infants. HS '53 didn't have drafting but that fall in first year EE we had a whole year of it. The instructor was a graduate of the US Merchant Marine Acad

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-26 Thread SteveL
I envied a friend in a EE program and the University of Cincinnati. He had the first HP-35 I’d ever seen the year it was introduced (1972), but it was way out of my budget as a new freshman studying Engineering. A couple of months after my friend acquired the HP-35, to my fascination he receiv

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-25 Thread Chris R. NW6V
> > Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com > > wrote:"Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning > abstractions into reality." Indeed. There is nothing so sublime as the moment of clarity when the last pieces of a jigsaw puzzle align, and the vision in your mind's eye crystalize

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-25 Thread Dave Sublette
--- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick >> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 >> >> OK

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Bill Coleman
When I started Tech in 1979, those drafting courses were no longer required. And, indeed, they retired the card punches for the FORTRAN courses in 1981-2. I was part of the User Assistance team in the computer center that helped all those EE 1010 students navigate their way to using the interact

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Bill Coleman
“Drafting?” No, we didn’t call it that. It was “Industrial Arts”. I remember taking in 7th grade. And a few of us took the second semester Industrial Arts rather than shop due to scheduling issues. That was back in 1973-4. It was one of my favorite classes as well. I still draw up schematics o

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
I did take a Mechanical Drawing class in High School.  It was of some use in my EE classes in college, but mostly drawing lines for schematics at that time (1960 era) - a straightedge and a compass or plastic template for making circles (remember tubes) was all that was needed at that time.  We

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Edward H Russell
AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 OK, I've really dated myself now. Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections and elevations

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Clark Macaulay
Oh, my, Wayne. We must be of the same age--er vintage? I still have my K&E drafting tools set and my K&E Log Log Duplex Decitrig slide rule (mahogany don't you know). Memories of eraser dust; velum; t-square; PC layout by hand; plastic symbol templates. I think it was then that I changed from c

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Louandzip via Elecraft
Yep, did the mechanical dwgs by hand and taped the artwork for the PCBs for the first few products I designed at a startup.  When I built my K2 in 00/01, I used a drafting table that had a drafting machine as a work bench and my first operating desk.  I had gotten it from work when they were di

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft
> On Apr 23, 2021, at 22:08, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, > mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections > and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like > they s

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Ken WA8JXM
In 1967 I started work as a Draftsman Trainee in the Engineering Division of P&G. My group leader told me "There is a timesharing computer terminal (Teletype 33) down the hall that we are not using. Find out if we can do anything with it." That started my progression to programming and eventuall

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/24/2021 1:00 AM, Joe K2UF wrote: In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging from your belt and india ink stains on your hands. I don't remember Drafting in high school, but I do remember it, along with courses in Nomography graphical methods to compute equat

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Dave Fugleberg
Thanks for the memories Wayne! My High School drafting class was just a couple of years after yours, and I remember it fondly. Everything from drafting pencils (with lead of various sizes/hardness) to technical ink pens on vellum. I enjoyed it so much that I persuaded the instructor to let me chec

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread MIKE ZANE
Way back then in 1955, we only had Mechanical Drawing, no drafting. Mike > On 04/24/2021 6:11 AM Barry wrote: > > > High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne :-) > > Barry W2UP (HS class of '74) > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ___

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread w2bvh
I didn't get to do a drafting course until college. It was taught by the dean (guess any prof who had to get us to understand solid state physics  was "too good" to teach drafting).. I still fondly remember doing some sheet metal layout and having such an oddly shaped piece in the flat mapping

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Jeff Stai
Not offered in my HS as I recall in 1976 but in college one quarter of it was required. I enjoyed it so much I took the second quarter. My son who almost has his degree also recently took "drafting" courses, in which they did an entire internal combustion engine including animating it when it was

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Edward R Cole
Wayne, Thanks for sharing the memories. I had been drawing things since a child, won a contest with a local radio show for my crayon drawings at age five. By the time I was in college I was already good at that. I got 1/2 point off one of my drawings in drafting class, otherwise got 100% (f

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Michael Chowning
Drafting, 1956-57. For the first four weeks of class, Sr. Mary Joseph would not let us touch any drafting instruments until we each made, sanded, shellac’ed, to her satisfaction, our own drafting boards. Her rationale was that if we crafted our own boards, we would take better care of them. Sh

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread len
ts capabilities. Thanks for the seed! 73 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 11:09 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 OK, I&

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Mike Short
I recently broke out my Dietzgen Stellar drafting set. Using it to layout features for my steam engine project. On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 00:11 Wayne Burdick wrote: > OK, I've really dated myself now. > > Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, > mechanical drawing

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Barry
High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne :-) Barry W2UP (HS class of '74) -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: h

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Andy McMullin via Elecraft
021 1:09 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 >> >> OK, I've really dated myself now. >> >> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, >> mechanical drawings, sc

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Dave Sublette
hands. > > 73 Joe K2UF > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread turnbull
) To: Joe K2UF Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 I took the classes but was never considered “COOL”... mostly a “NERD”.  Print shop too, but I knew I was going to college so they didn’t send me to the manual arts school down by the river

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread David Wilcox via Elecraft
> > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 > > O

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-24 Thread Joe K2UF
24, 2021 1:09 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 OK, I've really dated myself now. Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections

Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-23 Thread Mike Morrow
I learned draftmanship in high school indusrial arts beginning in 1966. I was good enough ar it that I was asked in my senior year to do detailed construction drawings for the annual project of the machine shop, even though I had transferred to a so-called college preparatory curriculum a coupl

[Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

2021-04-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
OK, I've really dated myself now. Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like they should be. Did all the math