navigation, etc..
>>
>>
>> My 2 penny's worth on this subject.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Sandy W5TVW
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kevin
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:43 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subje
n, etc..
>
>
> My 2 penny's worth on this subject.
>
> 73,
>
> Sandy W5TVW
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:43 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PACTOR iii
>
> Amen!
>
> There are
but NOT routine communications regarding weather, navigation, etc..
My 2 penny's worth on this subject.
73,
Sandy W5TVW
-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:43 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PACTOR iii
Amen!
There are a lot of
International third party traffic is illegal unless the US has a
specific agreement with the country involved.
Secondly, third party traffic is limited to *non-commercial* messages
"of the type that would not be transmitted by commercial means."
Navigation data, weather charts, supply orders, re
Thread closed.
Folks, in the interest of reducing list overload we are making a new addition
to the official Elecraft list guidelines.
Once there have been more than 2-3 postings on an Amateur Radio policy topic
like this (what's legal, what is, or is not, 'ham radio', no code pro/con etc.)
th
>"Your using Pactor to email family and friends. Unless your family and friends
>are all amateurs, communicating with them was at one time not allowed.
Really? When? Since the beginning of time Amateur Radio has been used
for third party traffic [in the US]. Ever hear of Heath & Welfare
messages
Pactor III is 2.4 KHz bandwidth, not 5 KHz.
However, various other modes plague of the amateur bands, it is not
confined to Pactor III. I See ROS stations sending out beacon/CQ calls
endlessly in the hope of someone reporting their signals with a link
back via the internet. Even the lowest symbol
My philosophical negative feelings about Pactor III and other proprietary
systems is that they approach the use of codes and ciphers that are
prohibited in the amateur service. Amateur radio is in many ways self
policing. Proprietary coding impedes that.
The other thing in particular about Pa
I have no dog in this hunt. However, this seems to me rather far removed
from Elecraft discussions :-)
73
Gary W2CS
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> I'm a little puzzled by the irritation with the presence of amateur
> Pactor3 transmissions in the Ham bands. The usual Pactor RMS
> frequencies seem to be well away from the commonly used CW frequencies
> (30m maybe an exception), and when operating CW I've never found them
> to be a probl
Well, some of the irritation is brought about something you mention
casually: Your using Pactor to email family and friends. Unless your
family and friends are all amateurs, communicating with them was at one
time not allowed. Amateurs were not allowed to communicate with
non-amateurs, no matte
The problem with PACTOR III is the price of the SCS modem. Recently, I
have been using the WINMOR waveform to do the very same thing with the
WINLINK network. WINMOR uses your sound card for all of the heavy DSP
lifting. The interface is RMS express which has a feel like Airmail. You
can find
I guess I'm one of the unclean. I licensed 3 1/2 years ago primarily
because I wanted to be able to use my vessel's SSB while making an
occasional offshore passage. Now I'm a die-hard Elecraft fan with a
KX1, a K2, (jonesing for a KX3) and a slowly increasing code speed.
Except for those occasions
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Pitts
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:49 PM
To: li...@subich.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PACTOR iii
Joe,
It's my understanding that the semiautomatic stations wait until there is
> It's my understanding that the semiautomatic stations wait until
> there is a connect request before transmitting,
Semi-automatic stations will still come up on top of other traffic
if they receive a connect request from a station that can't hear
the other traffic (e.g. in the skip zone or th
That is correct on it's face, however,
The Pactor III protocol allows the robot server to auto-adjust it's
bandwidth/speed.
It may start a session at 500Hz but if the bands in good shape with not
a lot of repeat requests it's widen out to 2.5KHz all by itself. If you
next to one running at 500Hz
> There are a lot of Yachtsmen/women who got their license for one
> reason and one reason alone. To keep from paying for the Sail Mail
> subscription. it amounts to $250/yr or about $21/month uses marine
> frequencies and marine type accepted equipment and the
> ubiquitous/infamous SCS Pactor III
Joe,
It's my understanding that the semiautomatic stations wait until there is a
connect request before transmitting, and that Pactor is bugged because it
ignores existing activity on the frequency, unlike Winmor which won't transmit
unless the frequency is clear.
Matthew Pitts
N8OHU
*Right on Joe!
There other 'auto-bots' on the amateur bands also and it is most
disconcerting to have a rare contact qso destroyed by the sudden appearance
of an automatic generated digital mode.
Gnashing teeth does not get that rare one in the log...:-(
Gary
*
On 30 April 2012 10:19, Joe Subich
Amen!
There are a lot of Yachtsmen/women who got their license for one reason
and one reason alone. To keep from paying for the Sail Mail
subscription. it amounts to $250/yr or about $21/month uses marine
frequencies and marine type accepted equipment and the
ubiquitous/infamous SCS Pactor III
D and
protect their own intellectural right.
TNX & 73,
Johnny VR2XMC
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eVERY ASPECT OF HAM radio is not for all hams.I do not do jf65However
that said, Pactor III is
Hear Hear Whoopie somebody needed to say that!!
Good on ya Joe.
73,
Rick W3BI
-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PACTOR iii
> However that said, Pactor III is a godsend
ver simplied the situation. Elecraft, Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood do not 'open
source' their DSP. This is nothing wrong, they need to recover their R&D and
protect their own intellectural right.
TNX & 73,
Johnny VR2XMC
寄件人︰ ussv dharma
收件人︰ "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"
> However that said, Pactor III is a godsend for us hams that are
> cruising on our boatshere in the south pacific, I can send/rec
> email, and get all kinds of weather charts/info to make my sailing
> safer. Pactor III may not be for you, but it is for me
And commercial or quasi-commercial t
If you're the Skipper, do you have a crew, or is all that just an
"additional duty" as we said in the military?
73,
Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org
On 4/29/2012 4:20 PM, ussv dharma wrote:
> eVERY ASPECT OF HAM radio is not
eVERY ASPECT OF HAM radio is not for all hams.I do not do jf65However
that said, Pactor III is a godsend for us hams that are cruising on our
boatshere in the south pacific, I can send/rec email, and get all kinds of
weather charts/info to make my sailing safer. Pactor III may not b
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