Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-23 Thread Ken Chandler
Hi Ken I like your idea too, would be fab having the K1EL chip in the Elecraft K3. Ken.. G0ORH Sent from my iPad > On 23 Oct 2015, at 03:10, Ken Alexander wrote: > > Maybe Wayne and Eric should talk to K1EL about licensing (or whatever it is > one has to do) so they

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-23 Thread Kevin Stover
I suggested this when the K3 was introduced. I had just started using the Winkey USB with my K2/100 and loved it. I still use it. It has Bug, Ultimatic, Curtis A and B emulation. Maybe they'd save a little DSP code space by offloading CW generation to the K1EL product. There is a reason why a

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Ian White
7:31 >To: ae...@carolinaheli.com >Cc: Ian White; elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? > >The old LogiKey K3 keyer has 10 emulation modes. I built an AccuKeyer >way >back when and still use its emulation on the LogiKey. I would have said K3 >but t

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread w7aqk
Hi All, I must be totally dense, but after 60 years of this stuff (and 40 years or so of it with a keyer and paddle), I just don't get the advantage of Mode B! I understand what Mode B does, or is supposed to do, but I don't see the benefit really. Although I use an "iambic" paddle, I don't

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Hjalmar Duklæt
Hi. Well, I for one use mode B and have always done so. Probably because my first keyer only had mode B and secondly because I wanted to use the squeeze tchnique, as I thought that was the ultimate way to send morse code. I have no problems with mode B, but cannot use mode A without a lot of

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Mode B on the Logikey is not the same as Mode B in Winkeyer, K3 or AccuKeyer (the original "Mode B"). Logikey makes the "opposite element" decision at the end of the first dit period whereas the normal Mode B implementation makes the opposite element decision at the beginning of the element.

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Ken Alexander
Maybe Wayne and Eric should talk to K1EL about licensing (or whatever it is one has to do) so they can use his famous $8.00 keyer chip in their transceivers. K1EL would make a little money and Elecraft would set themselves even further ahead of the pack by providing just about any keyer you

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread ae4pb
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Alexander Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? Maybe Wayne and Eric should talk to K1EL about licensing (or whatever it is one has to do) so they can use his famous $8.00 keyer chip

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread ky7k
Ultimatic mode, in addition to Iambic A and B. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:54 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: > > I asked for specifics so we can suggest/ask Elecraft for them and all I've > seen so far is generalities referring to emulation modes. > Why so vague? Why don't you guys just

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
:54 PM To: 'Ian White'; 'bob finger'; ae...@carolinaheli.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? I asked for specifics so we can suggest/ask Elecraft for them and all I've seen so far is generalities referring to emulation modes. Why so vague? Why don't

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread ae4pb
I asked for specifics so we can suggest/ask Elecraft for them and all I've seen so far is generalities referring to emulation modes. Why so vague? Why don't you guys just specifically ask for what you want? You guys are coming across as smug and arrogant. I'm sure that's not your intent. Ask

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Dale Putnam
I have also always used mode B, send lots of errors with mode A, am NOT interested in relearning how to send with mode A, and will not bother with trying to use mode A. However,if mode A is all that is available.. I WILL use my SK. Slower, sure, but no errors either. Have a great day,

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Vic Rosenthal
I want Logikey-type mode B. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO > On 23 Oct 2015, at 4:54 AM, > wrote: > > I asked for specifics so we can suggest/ask Elecraft for them and all I've > seen so far is generalities referring to emulation modes. > Why so vague? Why

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread Ian White
own experience alone. 73 from Ian GM3SEK >-Original Message- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >Joe Subich, W4TV >Sent: 22 October 2015 13:40 >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? >

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread bob finger
iginal Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian > White > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:26 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? > > This discussion emphasizes the oft-repeate

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-22 Thread ae4pb
www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and Patriotic. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian White Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:26 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [El

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
Keyers are very different. For example, I am a mode B guy and a 'squeezer', but I find mode B on the Logikey, the K3 and the WinKeyer have different timing demands. I have beaten myself into being able to use the K3 keyer despite formerly using the Logikey, but I had to make a conscious effort

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Fred Jensen
I don't have a KX3 but I do have a KX1, K2, K3, and a Winkey, and all of them are set for Iambic A and they all work like they are. Anything I send on Iambic B comes out encrypted. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On

[Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Roger Crofts
I love my KX3 and its little paddle. Unfortunately my keying is full of mistakes. When I send the letter C for example, it often comes out as CT or K. I thought the KX3 must be set to mode B keying, but no, it was on mode A. I originally learnt to send on an ETM-3b squeeze keyer many moons ago.

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Ken Alexander
wrote: Subject: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A? To: "elecraft reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 6:04 PM I love my KX3 and its little paddle. Unfortunately my keying is full of mistakes. When I send the letter C for example, it often c

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Mike Morrow
> Unfortunately my keying is full of mistakes. When I send the letter C > for example, it often comes out as CT or K. I thought the KX3 must be > set to mode B keying, but no, it was on mode A. What you report is completely contradictory. If C is the desired character: A Mode A operator using a

Re: [Elecraft] When is mode A not mode A?

2015-10-21 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Great explanationspecially for an old fellow {me}, trying to learn to use an Iambic paddle. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10163 On 10/21/2015 9:31 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: nfortunately my keying is full of mistakes. When I send the letter C >for example, it often comes out as CT or K. I