Re: id links in non-org buffers

2023-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
The current pre-release package of Hyperbole from the elpa-devel archive will display any Org ID (typically a UUID) or Org Roam ID referent given an ID in any buffer. Simply press M-RET on the ID with Hyperbole active and the referent/definition is displayed in another window or frame (whatever

Re: [BUG] hyperbole action key on path name results in org-element-cache warning [9.6-pre (release_9.5.5-997-ge58bd0 @ /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/)]

2022-12-11 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Ihor: So if we want to determine the Org type of an element outside of an Org buffer (when using org-type minor modes for example), how would we change this 'let' code: (let* ((context ;; Only consider supported types, even if they are not ;; the closest one.

Re: watch YT videos through in Emacs [Was: Interest in an Org video meetup?]

2022-10-12 Thread Robert Weiner
> More info on my blog in Spanish (if anyone is interested, I can translate it) Yes, please translate it to English. -- rsw On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 6:24 AM Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > > > Quiliro Ordóñez writes: > > > >> Hola Juan Manuel. > >> > >>> There is the

Re: SQLite for contacts and relations to Org - Re: contact management in emacs

2022-10-10 Thread Robert Weiner
You want a CRM system which to me is a very different creature and much more complex than a contact manager, meant to lookup fairly static information about people. HyRolo was built to allow freeform contact management and to specifically avoid the typical, limiting field-based techniques in

Re: stability of toc links

2022-10-10 Thread Robert Weiner
I missed the beginning of this; what exactly are you looking for? If you don’t want ids attached to the headlines that go into the toc, are you asking for code that automatically updates the toc on any change to individual headlines inthe document body? It would probably be easier to just

Re: [HELP] Fwd: Org format as a new standard source format for GNU manuals

2022-10-10 Thread Robert Weiner
I would just like to point out that anyone familiar with writing a Texinfo-format manual who wants to combine this with Org mode would likely just want to embed Org constructs, like Org tables in the manual; not to use Org as a formatter that exports individual source blocks to form a Texinfo

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-10-10 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Jean: I know this does not address everything you want but if you leverage Hyperbole’s capabilities, you’ll probably be able to get what you want with a lot less code. First, creating an explicit button displays only the button name as you like, fontified as you like, and with the button

Re: SQLite for contacts and relations to Org - Re: contact management in emacs

2022-10-10 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Jean: A few thoughts. 1. Although I understand you do a great many things with your database-backed Hyperscope system and I work with RDBMSes every day, I don't really see great value in what you have shown in the context of contact management when compared to the already existing HyRolo or

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
We had object-based, multi-media files with Engelbart's NLS/Augment system. We had relational databases way before the web. But here we are in 2022 with enormous personal computing power and for interactive editing, everyone is using and transferring stream-based files of characters that are

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
becomes more usable on mobile devices, we can add more mobile-friendly features to Hyperbole. -- rsw On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM David Masterson wrote: > Robert Weiner writes: > > > We welcome brief summaries of features you need for effective note > > taking in Emacs.

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:06 AM Payas Relekar wrote: > Robert Weiner writes: > > > Thanks, Jean. We have started work on a note-taking subsystem for > > Hyperbole that will store UUIDs per note and will likely support > backlinks > > too. We are seeing if we ca

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
you are on it, as you normally do. -- rsw On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 10:32 AM Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Hi, Robert, > > Robert Weiner writes: > > > We do like avy and as you say, Hyperbole can work with it. We try to > > avoid requiring any non-builtin Emac

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
Robert Weiner wrote: > Hi Jonathan: > > Yes, the backlink issue is one of the reasons we have not focused on > moving kcells with permanent hyperlink anchors from one file to another. > We generally feel that the context of kcells within an outline is important > and thus should st

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Eric: Thanks for pointing this out. Although, I don't think many people use the gnus-dired.el library, we'll add this to the todo list. We have handled this sort of thing with other keys previously, where the Hyperbole binding is not utilized if the key has already been bound in the mode

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Siva: (Sorry, I can't read this list too often so I miss some of these great messages). That is a very nice explanation of the power of implicit buttons. Imagine being able to ignore having to fully parse documents and instead just describing the patterns of interest and what to do with them

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 5:18 PM David Masterson wrote: > Robert Weiner writes: > > > Great to see you here too. We could use you on extended Hyperbole > > documentation if you ever get into it. > > Thanks, my hands don't type well anymore or I might've considered it,

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:50 AM Russell Adams wrote: > > Could you point to some usage of Hyperbole that could help address > it's use case? > Hi Russell: There are videos. The 'Overview and Demo' video has section links in the description so you can jump to just sections that interest you:

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-08 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Guys: I know what SQLite, org-roam and multi-user RDBMSes are and I use all of these things at various levels. They are useful in many ways as you have pointed out and across time, we may consider optional integrations but one of the core design principles of Hyperbole is to work in all

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-04 Thread Robert Weiner
Another good thought. Anyone can add an embeddable export of Koutlines; I don't think we'll find time to do that in the mainline development branch though. On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:45 AM Jean Louis wrote: > * Robert Weiner [2022-06-25 23:52]: > > 2. We have not yet integrated o

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-10-04 Thread Robert Weiner
-to-use notes system that does not require any external packages like SQLite. On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:00 AM Jean Louis wrote: > * Robert Weiner [2022-06-24 12:53]: > > Hyperbole does not have bi-directional links, only a history > > function to move back through followed node

How to utilize Org mode editing without display formatting

2022-08-28 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi: I have an Emacs programmatic need where I want to read an Org file into Emacs in a raw form without any display formatting (because the formatting is too slow for large or many Org files) but I need to leave the buffer after processing in Org mode, again without taking the time to visually

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-07-16 Thread Robert Weiner
Just noting that we have seen this and will have a look. -- rsw > On Jul 16, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Robert Weiner wrote: > > And it does highly complex context matching for many common patterns out of > the box with no need for customization. > > — rsw > >> On Ju

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-07-16 Thread Robert Weiner
And it does highly complex context matching for many common patterns out of the box with no need for customization. — rsw > On Jul 7, 2022, at 8:26 AM, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > Max Brieiev writes: > >> Embark defines the following targets: file, symbol, URL, s-expression, >> defun, etc.

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-07-06 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Eric: Wonderful. We hope more Org users will try Hyperbole as well and let us know any additional implicit button types (automatic wiki-like hyperbuttons) you would like to see in Org mode or other ways Org and Hyperbole can interoperate. -- rsw On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:58 PM Fraga, Eric

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Weiner
Correct. It uses just C-h h to activate the Hyperbole minor mode and to display its keyboard driven minibuffer menu. This is a normal global key binding which you can easily rebind to anything you like. -- rsw > On Jul 4, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Fraga, Eric wrote: > > On Monday, 4 Jul 2022 at

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-28 Thread Robert Weiner
know a bit what that is like! Best of luck, -- rsw On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:48 AM Eduardo Ochs wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 21:50, Robert Weiner wrote: > > > > So here is a simple implementation that is not unlike your own > > though the functions are a bit sim

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
rdo Ochs wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 21:50, Robert Weiner wrote: >> >> So here is a simple implementation (...) > > Hi Robert, > > thanks - but most functions of eev that deal with youtube URLs are > clearly marked either as "this is part of a 5-mi

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
So here is a simple implementation that is not unlike your own though the functions are a bit simpler and more clearly documented without a listing of every possible test case type and requires neither Hyperbole nor Org until you want to activate things as buttons: (require 'browse-url) (defun

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Jonathan: Yes, I no longer have time to maintain it and based on quality standards don't wish to re-release it unless one or more highly experienced Emacs package developers want to take it on, as it is a good size package. Such a person would have to have developed significant Emacs packages

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Siva: Yes, I think you have a good handle on the concepts behind Hyperbole buttons and additional Action Key contexts. Beyond that, there is also the Koutliner, HyRolo and HyControl in Hyperbole as you grow into it. Look forward to seeing some of the implicit button types you create for your

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
022 at 15:23, Robert Weiner wrote: > > > > Maybe if you could pick a single eev function that you think could > > be implemented with Org and Hyperbole and pointed us to the > > documentation for that, then we could show you an equivalent one > > using these packages and

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 1:52 PM Eduardo Ochs wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 at 13:29, Robert Weiner wrote: > > Hi Eduardo: > > > > I really think that you are confused in saying that Hyperbole and Org > are hacker-unfriendly. Yes, they are targeted at users who don't have to &

Re: Org, Hyperbole, and eev

2022-06-26 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Eduardo: I really think that you are confused in saying that Hyperbole and Org are hacker-unfriendly. Yes, they are targeted at users who don't have to understand the programming, but if you do understand Lisp programming well, the interactive features are available as Lisp functions in

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-25 Thread Robert Weiner
which you could get to pdf as well, I imagine. -- Bob > On Jun 25, 2022, at 3:07 PM, David Masterson wrote: > > Robert Weiner writes: > >> I am happy to answer questions and discuss ways we can make Hyperbole >> and Org work even better together; one direct quest

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-25 Thread Robert Weiner
Good idea, Juan. I’m all for quick ways to activate buttons without losing your current context. I’ll take a look at how we might support this as an optional load. -- Bob > On Jun 25, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Juan Manuel Macías > wrote: > > Hi, Robert, > > Robert Weiner w

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-24 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi João: Oantolin no doubt can speak to Embark much better but my present understanding is that it is a toolkit package for generating contextual popup or completion menus with a few standard context menus included. Hyperbole is a much broader personal information management environment, one

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-24 Thread Robert Weiner
for avy? In any case it is easy > to add a new avy action to avy-dispatch-alist. > > Best regards, > > Juan Manuel > > Robert Weiner writes: > > > Hi: > > > > Thanks to Juan for starting this thread and the interesting > > conversation it has starte

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-24 Thread Robert Weiner
structure between files (we already support exporting the text of koutlines to other buffers or to HTML), so this is a future use case to consider. -- rsw On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 6:55 AM indieterminacy wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On 24-06-2022 07:34, Robert Weiner wrote: > > Hi Samuel: >

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-24 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Tim: Great to see you working with Org and Hyperbole together. It is funny you mention a dashboard as that is the main next feature we are working on for Hyperbole. Presently, there is a 'personal button file' that serves as your launch pad for any commonly used hyperbuttons, accessed with

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-24 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Samuel: > On Jun 24, 2022, at 12:32 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: > > hi robert, welcome to the org list and thanks for your offer. > > for starters, does hyperbole have any concept of links that are: > > - unbreakable [like org-id] This one is not so simple to answer. Hyperbole only uses

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-23 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi Eduardo: I hope you'll take another look. (hyperbole-mode 0) disables the Hyperbole minor mode and all of its key bindings. The global binding {C-h h} is left in place so that you can quickly re-enable Hyperbole's minor mode and display its navigational minibuffer menu (where quick keys let

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-23 Thread Robert Weiner
Typically: {M-x package-install RET hyperbole RET} {M-x hyperbole-mode RET} is enough to install the stable, V8 version of Hyperbole to try out. If you are more advanced and want to try out the in-development version that corresponds to the git tip of the Hyperbole master branch, this is

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-23 Thread Robert Weiner
For reference: Hyperbole Videos are here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNRwswKKpjOlOVfFTS73P9A/videos The Hyperbole Home Page is here: https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/ Just to look at if you don't want to interact with it, the Hyperbole FAST-DEMO file is here:

Re: Org and Hyperbole

2022-06-23 Thread Robert Weiner
Hi: Thanks to Juan for starting this thread and the interesting conversation it has started. I just joined this mail list, so I don't have the prior messages and can't reply to the thread, so I have started this new one. I am the author of Hyperbole and would be happy to answer questions

Re: [O] Key binding popup interface

2017-12-13 Thread Robert Weiner
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:51 PM Robert Weiner <r...@gnu.org> wrote: > >> >> ​One limitation of hydra right now is that it doesn't interface with the >> standard way of showing

Re: [O] Key binding popup interface

2017-12-12 Thread Robert Weiner
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Can hydra.el be merged into Emacs core, so that all the packages can > start > > taking advantage of that? > > I have no opinion on that part, but if a part of Hydra would be useful > for other packages, then

[O] ANNOUNCE: GNU Hyperbole 6.0.1 for Emacs 24.4 - 25 is released

2016-07-28 Thread Robert Weiner
GNU Hyperbole (pronounced Ga-new Hi-per-bo-lee), or just Hyperbole, is an amazing programmable hypertextual information management system implemented as a GNU Emacs package. This is the first public release in 2016. Hyperbole has been greatly expanded and modernized for use with the latest Emacs