t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> Then "punctuation" has two senses, one generic and another specific. To
> my mind, the emacs guideline is ambiguous unless there is some
> convention about which sense is meant in this case. I guess it would be
> possible to look at the code to figure th
Agree.
To do my own rebindings i use this kind of code:
(eval-after-load 'org
'(define-key org-mode-map (kbd "C-c C-=") 'org-icicle-imenu))
But when re-opening a buffer with desktop after rebooting emacs, the
new bindings are not added
IZ
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Andreas Leha <
and
Yep, I am also using org-mode with icicles. Made several mods to help with
that. I use icicles for searching headers or text content all the time.
Interesting is the possibility to open a section (subtree) in an
independent buffer after finding it, with one command. I enclose the code
here, plus
Bastien writes:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Nick Dokos writes:
>
>> I find myself more in agreement with Seb than with Bastien here. The
>> argument that reducing the number of "bad" bindings reduces the chance
>> of conflicts does not hold water IMO: we will always have to be looking
>> in the rear-view mir
Aloha Bastien,
Bastien writes:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> Also, this is my first time trying to decode a syntax table, so caveat
>> emptor.
>
> Yes -- when doing C-u C-x on { in fundamental-mode I read
>
> Character code properties: customize what to show
>
Bastien writes:
> More precisely, I suggest these rebindings:
>
> C-c # Checkboxes => C-c C-#
> C-c , Priorities => C-c C-,
C-, can not be input using an ASCII terminal as it would produce a line
control character.
> C-c ; Comment lines => C-c C-;
> C-c @ Mark subtree => C-c C-@
C-@ m
Hi Thomas,
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> Also, this is my first time trying to decode a syntax table, so caveat
> emptor.
Yes -- when doing C-u C-x on { in fundamental-mode I read
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: LEFT CURLY BRACKET
old-name: OPENING CURLY
Aloha Seb,
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> What about `C-c {' and such in the tables?
The syntax table I see in my org file calls `{' an open delimiter
character, not punctuation.
Of course, I'm assuming that what the syntax table calls punctuation is
what the emacs guideline means when it says
Hello,
Bastien writes:
> Florian Beck writes:
>
>> But it is
>> polite to provide alternatives for bindings that might be shadowed.
>
> Indeed.
>
> The only problem is C-c ^ since C-c C-^ is already taken.
>
> Btw, we could use C-c C-u (currently bound to `outline-up-heading')
> instead of C-c
Florian Beck writes:
> But it is
> polite to provide alternatives for bindings that might be shadowed.
Indeed.
The only problem is C-c ^ since C-c C-^ is already taken.
Btw, we could use C-c C-u (currently bound to `outline-up-heading')
instead of C-c C-^ (currently bound to `org-up-element')
On 29.01.2014 14:16, Nick Dokos wrote:
But it's not just a matter of satisfying rules: it's a matter of making
it easy on users.
That is why I don't recommend satisfying them here.
Having a "bad" binding as well as a "good" binding for
something would mean that if I load a minor mode that ta
Hi Nick,
Nick Dokos writes:
> I find myself more in agreement with Seb than with Bastien here. The
> argument that reducing the number of "bad" bindings reduces the chance
> of conflicts does not hold water IMO: we will always have to be looking
> in the rear-view mirror for some minor mode that
Florian Beck writes:
> On 28.01.2014 10:08, Bastien wrote:
>
>> I think most of these keybindings could migrate to a C-c C- version.
>
> There is no need for migrating them IMO.
>
> The recommendation is:
>
>Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
>character are al
On 28.01.2014 10:08, Bastien wrote:
I think most of these keybindings could migrate to a C-c C- version.
There is no need for migrating them IMO.
The recommendation is:
Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
character are allocated for minor modes. Using them
Bastien,
Bastien wrote:
> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>
>> Is it really important to have a couple less of "not
>> standard" key bindings, if we still have others which don't comply?
>
> I think so, as it reduces the chances of conflicting keybindings from
> other minor modes.
OK. I (can) agree. B
Hi Sébastien,
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> Is it really important to have a couple less of "not
> standard" key bindings, if we still have others which don't comply?
I think so, as it reduces the chances of conflicting keybindings from
other minor modes.
--
Bastien
Bastien,
Bastien wrote:
> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>
>> What about `C-c {' and such in the tables?
>
> (FWIW, that's one of the few keybindings I would not like to change.)
>
>> I guess it's better to comply to the Emacs guidelines. That change will
>> allow us to wake up our neurons and fight a
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> What about `C-c {' and such in the tables?
(FWIW, that's one of the few keybindings I would not like to change.)
> I guess it's better to comply to the Emacs guidelines. That change will
> allow us to wake up our neurons and fight against Alzheimer. So, let's
> do
Hello Bastien and Thomas,
Bastien wrote:
> thanks for starting this list.
>
> t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> C-c ! Creating timestamps
>> C-c . Creating timestamps
>> C-c # Checkboxes
>> C-c ' Editing and debugging formulas, literal examples, include files,
>> editing source code, coo
Hi Thomas,
thanks for starting this list.
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> C-c ! Creating timestamps
> C-c . Creating timestamps
> C-c # Checkboxes
> C-c ' Editing and debugging formulas, literal examples, include files,
> editing source code, cooperation
> C-c , Priorities
> C-c ; Comme
Aloha Bastien,
Bastien writes:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> I just checked the Org mode manual and found that it has several entries
>> that consist of `C-c' followed by a punctuation character.
>
> Can we list them in this thread to discuss how bad the situation
Hi Thomas,
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> I just checked the Org mode manual and found that it has several entries
> that consist of `C-c' followed by a punctuation character.
Can we list them in this thread to discuss how bad the situation is
for each of these keybindings?
> In my qu
Aloha all,
Bastien writes:
> Drew Adams writes:
>
>> Dunno what that means. It's not a criminal offense, no.
>
> Let me quote the manual again:
>
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
> character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
> mo
Drew Adams writes:
> Dunno what that means. It's not a criminal offense, no.
Let me quote the manual again:
* Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
> character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
> mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
> mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
>
> That's pretty
> > > Perhaps it's better to report this as an Emacs bug so that
> > > we can discuss the issue with Emacs maintainers and see
> > > what's really at stake here.
> >
> > Since you are familiar with whatever bindings Org sets, and
> > you have read the key-binding conventions section of the
> > manu
Hi Drew,
Drew Adams writes:
> Since you are familiar with whatever bindings Org sets, and you
> have read the key-binding conventions section of the manual,
> please file a bug if you think it is appropriate. You are well
> placed to give the details.
>
> [...]
>
> Consideration of whether to f
> > No major mode should do so.
>
> One problem is that Org uses C-c . too ... and some more.
>
> Perhaps it's better to report this as an Emacs bug so that we can
> discuss the issue with Emacs maintainers and see what's really at
> stake here.
I'm not familiar with Org mode. As I said, I don'
Drew Adams writes:
> No major mode should do so.
One problem is that Org uses C-c . too ... and some more.
Perhaps it's better to report this as an Emacs bug so that we can
discuss the issue with Emacs maintainers and see what's really at
stake here. For me, the keybindings are already too dee
> > * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
> >character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
> >mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
> >mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
> >
> > IOW, no
> I have an additional question: where does one ask for help about icicle?
1. `M-x icicle-send-bug-report' or menu Icicles > Send Icicles Bug Report
or `M-x customize-group Icicles' > click Send Bug Report
2. Emacs Wiki:
Bugs:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/IciclesIssues
Suggestions:
http:/
Hello Drew,
Drew Adams writes:
> 1d. By default only. It is trivial to customize user option
> `icicle-top-level-keybindings', to bind `icicle-occur' to a
> different key or to give it no key binding at all.
>
> (And no, you do not need to fiddle with Lisp to do that - not
> even `define-key'.
Drew Adams writes:
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
>character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
>mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
>mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
>
Someone pointed me to this thread. I am not subscribed to this
list, so cc me if you want me to see a reply you write.
Wrt some of what I read in the thread:
1. It is not true, (or else it is meaningless, depending on what
you mean by that phrase) that "C-c ' is officially an Emacs
keybinding".
Memnon Anon writes:
> Okay. As I said, I found this the only one conflicting with org (or
> other packages). Just remember to require icicles at the very end of
> your config, and everything should work.
I found that "C-`" (which I use to jump to errors when compiling in
latex) also conflicts.
John Kitchin writes:
> I got icicles via ELPA. The version from describe-package is
> Version: 20140118.1856. although in icicles.el it says ;; Version:
> 2013.07.23.
That is the current version.
Icicles isn't only icicle.el, Drew has actually a whole bunch of
elisp addon packages. Some I use,
I got icicles via ELPA. The version from describe-package is Version:
20140118.1856. although in icicles.el it says ;; Version: 2013.07.23.
Thanks for the tip about the binding variable. I am content with this in my
init file:
(require 'icicles)
;; reclaim C-c ' for org-mode
(setq icicle-top-lev
John Kitchin writes:
> I am trying it out, and icicles seems to have clobbered a few key
> bindings like C-c ' to open source blocks.
I used to have the same problem with "C-c '" at one point in time,
but not anymore. This was the only binding which got in the way.
Using customize-option on ic
Hi John,
John Kitchin writes:
> I am trying it out, and icicles seems to have clobbered a few key
> bindings like C-c ' to open source blocks.
>
> It doesn't seem to matter which order I load these packages. Does
> anyone do this without clobbering org bindings? Thanks,
I suggest to ask Drew d
John Kitchin writes:
> Is anyone using org-mode and icicles?
How interesting. I also started trying icicle out today.
> I am trying it out, and icicles seems to have clobbered a few key
> bindings like C-c ' to open source blocks.
I'm having the same problem. I think one way to do it is to unb
Is anyone using org-mode and icicles?
I am trying it out, and icicles seems to have clobbered a few key bindings
like C-c ' to open source blocks.
It doesn't seem to matter which order I load these packages. Does anyone
do this without clobbering org bindings? Thanks,
John
41 matches
Mail list logo