[Emc-developers] kinematicsHome

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
I am trying to work out somebodies problems with kinematics, which is tricky because it is all a bit of a mystery to me too. As far as I can see the kinematicsHome function of the active kins is never called, so am I missing something, or is it irrelevant? -- atp The idea that there is no such t

[Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Francesca Sca
Hello everyone, I have an 6 dof anthropomorphic robot like Puma but without spherical wirst. I have written my new kinematic editing pumakins.c and using the standard equations for a anthropomorphic manipulator (3 DOF) plus direct expressions like a trivial kinematics for the lastest 3 DOF. I w

Re: [Emc-developers] kinematicsHome

2012-01-20 Thread Alex Joni
>I am trying to work out somebodies problems with kinematics, which is > tricky because it is all a bit of a mystery to me too. > > As far as I can see the kinematicsHome function of the active kins is > never called, so am I missing something, or is it irrelevant? Right, it might have been used s

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 11:29, Francesca Sca wrote: > Which could be the problem? I think that it may be a conflict between home > and inverse kinematics. That was a red-herring. Apparently the kinematicsHome subroutine is never used, so it can't be that. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Alex Joni
My guess is that you don't have matching kins. Try calculating world position from joints 0,0,0,0,0,0 (manually) Then calculate it the other way around and see if you get the initial value. Regards, Alez -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andy pugh wrote: On

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Spiderdab
Hi, I suggest you to post here also your .ini file, to see your HOME and HOME_OFFSET values (as per the PM i sent you.). My idea (correct me if i'm wrong) is that the home position of one or more of the joints, conflicts with the real position that the arm can have. It happened to me with the inve

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 16:01, Alex Joni wrote: > My guess is that you don't have matching kins. Try calculating world > position from joints 0,0,0,0,0,0 (manually) That's a little easier said than done, though, as it all feeds through the pmHomogeneous rotation matrices. However, I do wonder how the

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Alex Joni
It probably takes 10 minutes to convert the kinematics file into an userspace program with a couple printf's. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andy pugh wrote: On 20 January 2012 16:01, Alex Joni wrote: > My guess is that you don't have matching kins. Try

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 16:51, Alex Joni wrote: > It probably takes 10 minutes to convert the kinematics file into an > userspace program with a couple printf's. Probably true, though I would have no idea where to start, and even less idea how to invoke such a program.. Creating some HAL pins and fol

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Alex Joni
Just keep it simple. Add a main function, call kinematicsInverse with the params you want, and print the results. Then compile and run from a terminal. No LinuxCNC involved. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andy pugh wrote: On 20 January 2012 16:51, Alex Jo

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Javier Ros
I had a similar problem with a hexapod type machine, and the problem was precisely what Alex is suggesting. Good luck, Javier On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Alex Joni wrote: > My guess is that you don't have matching kins. Try calculating world > position from joints 0,0,0,0,0,0 (manually) >

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Javier Ros
I don't remember pretty well. But may be world 0,0,0,0,... must be coincident too with joint 0,0,0,0,... Must be some message from me in the emc-users list. I found at least this (may be there are some more) http://www.mail-archive.com/emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03496.html Read at " Ne

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Jeff Epler
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:28:23PM -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Gentle persons: > > Before I disappear for a while, I thought I'd throw out this question > because there are areas of the Wiki I'd be uncomfortable editing in > spare moments until I know the answer. > > Can I safely assume the ne

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 18:49, Javier Ros wrote: > Another possible way to overcome this would be to use kinematics > module to initialise joint positions from world coordinates, or the > inverse, and let the ini file to initialize world or joint. I suspect that this is what the unused kinematicsHome

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:54 , Jeff Epler wrote: > > Right now in the v2.5_branch of development, we have >linuxcnc[the main program] >xlinuxcnc [the Xaw-based GUI] >linuxcncrsh [the program we're talking about now] >tklinuxcnc [the Tk-based GUI] > > unix command names are gen

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread EBo
lcnc? On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:19:38 -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:54 , Jeff Epler wrote: >> >> Right now in the v2.5_branch of development, we have >>linuxcnc[the main program] >>xlinuxcnc [the Xaw-based GUI] >>linuxcncrsh [the program we're talking ab

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 18:54, Jeff Epler wrote: > "lcnc" and "lnc" are both used as marketing names by other cnc control > manufacturers; I'd be pretty reluctant to use these as command names in > LinuxCNC. lxcnc? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wro

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/20 EBo : > lcnc? Jeff Epler: "lcnc" and "lnc" are both used as marketing names by other cnc control Viesturs -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library f

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread EBo
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:40:09 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/1/20 EBo : >> lcnc? > > Jeff Epler: "lcnc" and "lnc" are both used as marketing names by > other > cnc control sorry for not doing the market research before hand. With all this name-branding problem we should use a unique glyph l

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Frank P Bufton
I like "cnc" it is generic and short. putting the full name linuxcnc is needlessly long. Frank Bufton From: Sebastian Kuzminsky To: EMC developers , Date: 01/20/2012 01:20 PM Subject:Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts? On Jan

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/20/2012 2:19 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:54 , Jeff Epler wrote: >> Right now in the v2.5_branch of development, we have >> linuxcnc[the main program] >> xlinuxcnc [the Xaw-based GUI] >> linuxcncrsh [the program we're talking about now] >> tklin

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Francesca Sca
So the problem isn't home value but something about my kinematics? How I can check this? Alex has suggested a way but it isn'y easy for me... Francesca Da: Alex Joni A: EMC developers Inviato: Venerdì 20 Gennaio 2012 17:01 Oggetto: Re: [Emc-developers] new

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 January 2012 23:35, Francesca Sca wrote: > > So the problem isn't home value but something about my kinematics? How I can > check this? Alex has suggested a way but it isn'y easy for me... You are not the only one with this problem (as a similar question was just posted) I am trying to com

Re: [Emc-developers] new kinematics problem

2012-01-20 Thread Francesca Sca
Andy pugh wrote: >You are not the only one with this problem (as a similar question was >just posted) >I am trying to compile your kins to have a fiddle. >(I have just added it to the makefile) Ok thank you for the help!! I have found an error in my file kinematics... you should delete 245.0

Re: [Emc-developers] What are the new names of executables and scripts?

2012-01-20 Thread Jon Elson
Jeff Epler wrote: > linuxcncrsh [the program we're talking about now] > tklinuxcnc [the Tk-based GUI] > > > > If we were to shorten them up, maybe it should be "cnc" in command names > (xcnc, cncrsh, tkcnc). > Those look good to me, the ones above ARE getting a bit long. Jon -