RE: IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Immunity Question

2000-09-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
Here's how it works: The combination of the four resistors determines the total surge current. If the voltage is 4kV and each resistor is 160 ohms (1.2/50us generator), the total source impedance becomes 42 ohms (2 ohms internal to the generator in series with the 4, 160 ohm parallel resistors),

RE: ENV 50204

2000-09-05 Thread Joshua Wiseman
Check EN 61000-4-3 -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:21 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: ENV 50204 The Generic Immunity standard, EN 50082-1 references ENV 50204 for a radiated immunity test. The

IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Immunity Question

2000-09-05 Thread David Gelfand
Group, When earthing a line as in Figure 12, shouldn't the resistor to that line be removed? Otherwise the surge will simply pass through that resistor to ground. Opinions? Regards, David. David Gelfand Regulatory Approvals Group Leader Memotec Communications Inc. Montreal Canada

Re: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread Pryor McGinnis
I do not disagree with the positions posted on this subject. My question is how does the EU interpret and enforce this requirement/definition. Pryor - Original Message - From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports > >

RE: ADSL system. FCC requirements

2000-09-05 Thread Bandele Adepoju
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 8:43 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Cc: ico...@itl.co.il > Subject: ADSL system. FCC requirements > > > > > Dear Group, > > We have ADSL system comprising subscrib

RE: RE: EN55024 question

2000-09-05 Thread Bandele Adepoju
This interpretation came from the FCC and a Notified Body - in the course of numerous discussions on this subject, may I say. Regards, Bandele Jetstream Communications, Inc. badep...@jetstream.com -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Friday,

RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread David_Sterner
If LAN's cause interference, the mechanism would be radiated, not conducted. Testing may be moot on LAN's whose fundimental frequency lies between 150kHz and 100MHz; STP is the only way to 'pass'. Of course STP has safety implications due to earthing potentials.

ENV 50204

2000-09-05 Thread WOODS
The Generic Immunity standard, EN 50082-1 references ENV 50204 for a radiated immunity test. The foreword of the ENV says it will be withdrawn once an IEC/CENELEC standard has been published. Has this interim standard been withdrawn and replaced by an EN 61000-4 series standard? If so, which one?

RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread David_Sterner
LAN ports Testing Conducted RF Emissions on LAN twisted-pair lines is almost contrary to the intent of EN 55022 as Gary pointed out. Conducted emissions is more appropriate for asynchronous analog lines. LAN transmissions are digital and synchronous (except maybe

RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread Mowbray, John H
Gary If you read the definition of telecomm ports in CISPR 22 (sect. 3.6) it includes Local Area Networks, and other similar networks. Some people have even tried to extend this to RS 232 because of past abuses of this interface (like stretching the cable length to several hundred feet). There is

RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread Gary McInturff
Seems more likely I was. Actually, I have run these tests anyway for other reasons I just git riled up by a single segment of the community that imposes restrictions on the rest of the world. Okay, I just get riled up about a lot of stuff. Gary -Original Message- F

RE: RE: EN55024 question

2000-09-05 Thread Kazimier Gawrzyjal
Folks, Just to add to the mix of questions so far, here's a few more that Debbie may wish to consider: 1) is the demarkation point for the product clearly identified? 2) Is a smart jack always to be used with the product? Who supplies it (i.e. mfg. or customer)? 3) Is the product in questio

Re: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread Pryor McGinnis
Reference CISPR 22:1997, Clause 3.5 "telecommunication ports Ports which are intended to be connected to telecommunication networks (e.g. public switched telecommunication networks, integrated services digital networks), local area networks (e.g. Ethernet, Token Ring) and similar networks." This

LAN's and Ethernets

2000-09-05 Thread Gary McInturff
In response to my note that I disagree with LAN's and Ethernet ports being telecommunications ports I received this response from a friend and associate. Because he did not send it to all of us I have just cut his comments out in order to protect his privacy, but I thought the note importa

RE: MTBF Calculations

2000-09-05 Thread Gary McInturff
I believe the basis for many (most) component failures comes from the military and the Reliability Assesment Center (RAC) - and I could have the name slightly wrong. They ran demonstrated tests on components at various stress levels to derive the FITS, for the Military. I believe

RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports

2000-09-05 Thread Gary McInturff
Define telecom port. A LAN port isn't neccessarily a LAN port. Ethernet ports do not connect directly to the Telecommunications network - a necessary condition before being a telecommunications port. LANS and MANS operate all of the time without any use of any telecommunications e

Sept. 1, 2000 Conformity-Update Now Available

2000-09-05 Thread Glen Dash
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Job Opening in San Jose CA

2000-09-05 Thread Kendall Wilcox
Brocade Communications Systems of San Jose, CA has an immediate opening for an experienced EMC Engineer to manage all aspects of EMC Compliance for it's Storage Area Network (SAN) switch products. The successful candidate will have experience with and knowledge of wor

RE: Logo for Ventilation Hole

2000-09-05 Thread George Sparacino
Koh, Review the requirements for fault testing in either UL 6500, 2nd ed or EN60065 6th ed (cls. 4.3.10). They state that "each group of ventilation openings that are likely to be covered simultaneously, shall be covered in turn and tested seperately". " Ventilating openings that are likely to be

Looking for inverter 230V/-48VDC

2000-09-05 Thread Pierre SELVA
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