RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-17 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi Chris, To answer your question, look to your UL Follow-Up Service Procedure (FUSP) and find the Listing Mark Data page. This page details the composition and elements of the UL Listing mark, which are: 1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol), 2. The word LISTED in capital

Re: World Wide EMC requirements

2001-10-17 Thread Elya B. Joffe
Dear Cecil, As an Israeli I can advise you that the Israeli Standards are based on CISPR 22 and CISPR 24 Standards for ITE. I trust that that would be the case in many other countries, who are members of IEC/CISPR. Best regards, Elya B. Joffe -- Original Message --

RE: 10/100 base interface in a plastic box

2001-10-17 Thread Cook, Jack
John, Really good information there regarding treatment of chassis ground evacuation of other layers. I'd add the comment that the layout of the signal etch between the transformer the RJ45 connector (UTP) is also important. Keep the +/- pairs as short, tightly coupled and as symmetrical as

Re: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-17 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Chris: Does the file number need to be on the label? Can the manufacturer leave the file number off of the label and simply put a generic UL (or CSA) mark on the product along with their nameplate identifying the manufacturer, model and serial number? In my response to

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-17 Thread John Juhasz
Chris, The use of a 'generic' UL mark, in the case of ITE products, is not possible. As was noted in an earlier thread about the mark, a proper UL mark consists of 4 elements (as per the Listing Mark Data Page in your FUS procedure): 1) The UL Logo 2) The word 'Listed' 3) A 4 digit

Re: 10/100 base interface in a plastic box

2001-10-17 Thread jrbarnes
Jon, My department has developed ten generations of Ethernet adapters (10BASE2, 10BASE-T, 100BASE-Tx) for IBM/Lexmark printers since 1990. We have looked at, but so far have not used, integrated-magnetics connectors because we like having the option of putting a common-mode choke in between

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-17 Thread Chris Maxwell
This thread brings up a question that I have been wondering about. Amund's question dealt with a product that had the UL label and a file number. The file number was used to identify the manufacturer. My understanding of the response that Amund received is that this identification is adequate

Printable calendar for 2002

2001-10-17 Thread Robert Macy
Apologize for being off topic, but I've attached a printable calendar for 2002. It prints out on 8 1/2 by 11 (for all the metric people) in landscape mode. Very little clutter and has big squares to write in. If you have a DeskJet 500, you can print directly to it. If not, use the text file

RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.

2001-10-17 Thread Gregg Kervill
It is - however - wise not to read too much into this decision and assume that obtaining a CB Report from a UL Product is matter of fact. There are many pitfalls. E.g. - X and Y Caps may be have been reviewed to an older (950) standard that permits compliance to EITHER UL OR IEC. Been there

RE: Horizontal Antenna

2001-10-17 Thread Brench, Colin
Hi David, You cannot ignore the ground plane at all. It would be better to think of the transmit antenna as two separate antennas at 1m above and, 1m below, the level of the ground plane and then you can ignore it to some extent. You will always see the combination of these two sources. Simply

RE: 10/100 base interface in a plastic box

2001-10-17 Thread David_Sterner
Jon, Richard, Test radiated emissions at both speeds and with each cable type. Per ANSI/IEEE 802.3 and 802.3h, 100BaseTX has 1/2 the pulse height of 10BaseT (to reduce EMI). Whether to earth the shield (or semi-shield) is an eternal question. These four possibilities can occur (since a hub

RE: Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Sorry. I clicked too fast during spell checking. I meant, thank you. -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver Think you, Angus. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit

RE: Lithium Ion Batteries

2001-10-17 Thread Peter Tarver
Think you, Angus. The title for this standard is: Primary Batteries - Part 4: Safety Standard for Lithium Batteries In my case, and I think this is true of all Li ion cells and batteries, it is a secondary battery, meaning rechargeable. Primary batteries can't be or aren't intended to be

World Wide EMC requirements

2001-10-17 Thread cecil . gittens
From: Cecil A. Gittens What are the EMC requirements for ITE products that are marketed in the Southwest region of Russia, Eastern Mediterrian countries, Asia, South Africa, Israel, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore. Cecil --- This message is from the

Horizontal Antenna

2001-10-17 Thread Spencer, David H
All, I have a question regarding a horizontal transmit antenna over a ground plane. My questions implies a dipole. The questions: What impact does the ground plane have on a horizontally transmitted signal? If the transmit antenna is 1 meter above the ground plane is the only signal

RE: 10/100 base interface in a plastic box

2001-10-17 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
Jon, if your running high etherent freq. and the shield is NOT grounded, you might fail class A FCC/Cispr 22. Richard, -Original Message- From: Jon Keeble [mailto:j.kee...@fairlightesp.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:05 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: 10/100 base

RE: Air Filter Material

2001-10-17 Thread Andrew Wood
Enclosure manufacturers normally stock filter material and accessories. Try http://www.rittal-corp.com/ Andy. -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [SMTP:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: 16 October 2001 15:39 To: EMC-PSTC Internet Forum Subject:Air Filter

RE: Air Filter Material

2001-10-17 Thread Colgan, Chris
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SV: UL - marking

2001-10-17 Thread amund
I promised to send you the result regarding the UL marking/label on a open frame power supply. The local UL-follow-up folks have now agreed that the UL file number identifies the power supply manufacturer, even that the distribution company has the company logo on the label. They said in this

10/100 base interface in a plastic box

2001-10-17 Thread Jon Keeble
RJ45s come in shielded, unshielded, and shielded with integral magnetics (and probably other flavors as well). Has anybody got any suggestions / experience / whatever re the use of one or other of these parts in a product that will live in a plastic box, power by an external mains adapter /