Hi Chris,

To answer your question, look to your UL Follow-Up Service Procedure (FUSP) and 
find the "Listing
Mark Data" page. This page details the composition and elements of the UL 
Listing mark, which are:

1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol),
2. The word "LISTED" in capital letters,
3. The assigned control number*, and
4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.)

* The assigned control number is a designation that UL assigns to a 
manufacturer, or manufacuring
location (I have also seen UL file numbers used here, although I'm not sure 
that UL objects to
that).

So, given the above and IMHO, I would say that just a generic UL Listing mark 
would neither be
acceptable nor authorized by UL. However, I recommend contacting UL for their 
official position on
the use of their Listing mark.

I hope this answers your question.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com




                                                                                
                                           
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This thread brings up a question that I have been wondering about.

Amund's question dealt with a product that had the UL label and a file
number.  The file number was used to identify the manufacturer.  My
understanding of the response that Amund received is that this
identification is adequate

My question is:

Does the file number need to be on the label?  Can the manufacturer
leave the file number off of the label and simply put a generic UL (or
CSA) mark on the product along with their nameplate identifying the
manufacturer, model and serial number?

If this can be done, are there any sources for pre-printed UL and/or CSA
labels?   I'd especially be interested in one with the CSA mark and the
"C  US" subscript denoting dual UL/CSA certification.  These days,
management likes using less custom parts and saving money.  Even if it's
labels :-)

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:         Gregg Kervill [SMTP:gkerv...@eu-link.com]
> Sent:         Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:53 AM
> To:           am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject:           RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
>
>
>
> It is - however - wise not to read too much into this decision and
> assume
> that obtaining a CB Report from a UL Product is matter of fact.
>
>
> There are many pitfalls. E.g. - X and Y Caps may be have been reviewed
> to an
> older (950) standard that permits compliance to EITHER UL OR IEC.
>
>
> Been there - Done that - got that tee shirt......
>
>
> Gregg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
> am...@westin-emission.no
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:22 AM
> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: SV: UL - marking
>
>
>
> I promised to send you the result regarding the UL marking/label on a
> open
> frame power supply. The local UL-follow-up folks have now agreed that
> the UL
> file number identifies the power supply manufacturer, even that the
> distribution company has the company logo on the label. They said in
> this
> case it was OK because the have checked and compared the UL and CB
> reports
> and are therefore convinced.
>
>
> Amund
>
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