The File number 'may' be used on things like cable (it is common to see UL
and CSA file numbers) and other components - Control numbers (I forget the
correct terminology) is required on some UR components but not all Listed
products.

Please confirm someone.

Gregg

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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Gregg Kervill; am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.



This thread brings up a question that I have been wondering about.

Amund's question dealt with a product that had the UL label and a file
number.  The file number was used to identify the manufacturer.  My
understanding of the response that Amund received is that this
identification is adequate

My question is:  

Does the file number need to be on the label?  Can the manufacturer
leave the file number off of the label and simply put a generic UL (or
CSA) mark on the product along with their nameplate identifying the
manufacturer, model and serial number?

If this can be done, are there any sources for pre-printed UL and/or CSA
labels?   I'd especially be interested in one with the CSA mark and the
"C  US" subscript denoting dual UL/CSA certification.  These days,
management likes using less custom parts and saving money.  Even if it's
labels :-)

Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division
email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Kervill [SMTP:gkerv...@eu-link.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:53 AM
> To:   am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject:      RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
> 
> 
> 
> It is - however - wise not to read too much into this decision and
> assume
> that obtaining a CB Report from a UL Product is matter of fact.
> 
> 
> There are many pitfalls. E.g. - X and Y Caps may be have been reviewed
> to an
> older (950) standard that permits compliance to EITHER UL OR IEC.
> 
> 
> Been there - Done that - got that tee shirt......
> 
> 
> Gregg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
> am...@westin-emission.no
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:22 AM
> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: SV: UL - marking
> 
> 
> 
> I promised to send you the result regarding the UL marking/label on a
> open
> frame power supply. The local UL-follow-up folks have now agreed that
> the UL
> file number identifies the power supply manufacturer, even that the
> distribution company has the company logo on the label. They said in
> this
> case it was OK because the have checked and compared the UL and CB
> reports
> and are therefore convinced.
> 
> 
> Amund
> 
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