RE: Baud rate reference

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
The EIA standard does not define a "default" or "standard" baud rate, other than the max rate allowed according to CCITT recommendations for PSTN modems. If you are refering to PC UARTs, note that there are some common baud rate divisors. >From the on-line dict of computing: "ITU works closely w

Re: Pwr plane in SPICE

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Dave, Do you mean modeling PCB power planes for EMC purposes, or for any purpose? For power-distribution analysis, modeling power planes with SPICE is one of the common solutions. Regards, Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems - Original Message - From: drcuthb...@micron.com To: emc-p..

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Dave, Could you send me privately or post a link to the AntenneX Discussion Group? Thanks, Ernest Rayman 584 Clairmont Cir. Apt 3 Decatur, Ga 30033 404-634-4494 ernestray...@hotmail.com

RE: Pwr plane in SPICE

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Thanks to the two who responded. I found the SUN reference earlier and it is good. This confirms my alternate method. I get the same results with a much smaller model but its has limitations. The drawback is I can only exactly model a circular PCB with the signal source at the center. It is interes

Looking for EMC/Product Safety opening

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi All, I am looking at moving out of California shortly. By doing this I will be looking for work. I have been doing safety for the past 4 yrs. I have been doing EMC for the past 5 yrs. All of this has been using the various ITE standards. I have other experience in electronics and communic

Pwr plane in SPICE

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Is anyone else trying to model PCB power planes with SPICE? Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology

RE: Australia requirements

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Martin, Although I would agree there are no requirements for the Standards to be mentioned in the user manual, in my opinion I feel it crucial to identify them here as it gives the user the opportunity to define the operating environment and proper utilization. Even if most users may not b

Baud rate reference

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
To all that may know, I know this may be a bit off topic, but I am in a search for a reference document/standard/specification that describes and/or defines the standard baud rates found in RS-232, RS-422 and RS-485 interfaces. If anyone does know of such a reference, please identify it to me. T

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi Group, Very true remarks on PLC or BPL H-field measurements. We in Europe did a lot of them. In Germany NB30 Decree by RegTP (mag. field strength limits taken at 3m, 3 axis orientations, with 9 kHz BW) and using a 60cm magnetic loop (CISPR 16) mostly from R&S sets the rules which seem to get n

Central Office -48VDC color code

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Group, I have a client who wondering if there is any standard color coding scheme for the -48VDC power feeds to telecom equipment located in a central office. I have checked GR-78 which references GR-347. The client has GR-347 and has not found any information on this topic. Are we lookin

FW: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
From: drcuthbert Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:38 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; Barry Rowland; EMC-PSTC Subject: RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF You will need something larger than these sensors. At 3MHz a loop with an area of 0.1 sq. meter will output 0.25uV (-12 dBuV) when placed in a 30 uV/m fi

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Note that the 0.1 sq. meter loop will barely work well enough at 3 MHz. The system noise floor is 18 dBuV/m while you need to measure below 30 dBuV/m. Not much head room. The loop is terminated into 50 ohms. A larger loop will not qualify as an electrically short loop at 30 MHz. Dave Cuthbert

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
You will need something larger than these sensors. At 3MHz a loop with an area of 0.1 sq. meter will output 0.25uV (-12 dBuV) when placed in a 30 uV/m field. With a 3dB noise figure preamp the spectrum analyzer noise floor is -24 dBuV with the RBW set to 10 kHz. So, a 0.1 sq. meter loop will allow

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Jack, Are you on the AntenneX discussion list? We have been analyzing BLP and have decided that the FCC measurement method is hopelessly flawed. The FCC method calls for a vertically oriented loop at a 1 meter height. But, the major radiation (from sims) shows it being horizontally polarized and

Lead Free Solder Requirements

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Can anyone out there help me with info on European lead free solder requirements? Thanks in advance. Bill Wilson

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hello Jack, We use shielded loop antennas for measuring inductive loop systems operating between 40 kHz and 8 MHz. We have Electro-Metrics and ETS-Lindgren loops. In this frequency range, we have found it to be important to have a measurement site free of metallic objects, i.e., no ground plane,

RE: What is wrong in my 3 meters FAC measurement

2004-03-25 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
I would try to connect a capacitor from + to the chassis and from - to the chassis to avoid the requirement for shielded cable. Is there a way to make this connection? A 0.1 uF capacitor with short lead is a start. If the total lead+cap length is 1/2 cm the inductance will be about 10 nH. Above 5 M

RE: 10kV/20kA 8/20us surge

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Roger: EM Test also manufactures a generator, CSS500M/32, that will perform the IEC 61000-4-5 8/20 pulse up to 32,000 amps. Regards, Rodger _ From: Roger Hsu [mailto:roger...@astec-asia.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:02 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@majordom

RE: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>-Original Message- >From: Iain Summers [mailto:iain.summ...@blueyonder.co.uk] >Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:27 PM >To: EMC-PSTC >Subject: Re: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF > > > >Jacob, I am also measuring BPL in the UK. We have an automatic >Schaffner >loop but it is too noisy to

Fire extinguishing agent

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I ran across a report which is likely to be of interest to some in our group. NASA has developed a powder fire extinguishing agent consisting of microencapsulated water. It is dry and halogen free, releasing water for cooling and oxygen displacement onl

Re: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
My estimation is that the FCC loops were built to sense stronger fields than what the original poster had in mind, and may not have sufficient sensitivity at HF. on 3/25/04 1:46 AM, Barry Rowland at bfr...@direct.ca wrote: > > Fischer Custom Communications also have such products, which Agilen

Regulatory Opportunity in CA, Santa Barbara

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
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Re: What is wrong in my 3 meters FAC measurement

2004-03-25 Thread John Woodgate
kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in wrote (in ) about 'What is wrong in my 3 meters FAC measurement', on Thu, 25 Mar 2004: >You wrote "The bottom line is the common mode RF on the power leads. >This needs to be fixed. Bypassing the + and - directly to the chassis at >the chassis wall may help." >

Re: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Fischer Custom Communications also have such products, which Agilent was including in their EMC pre-compliance test sets. Here's the page: http://www.fischercc.com/instrumentation/product_sensors.shtml Barry Rowland Vancouver BC On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Iain Summers wrote:

Re: Shielded Loop Antenna for HF

2004-03-25 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Check out: http://www.ets-lindgren.com/productpage.cfm?model=6502&producttype=Antennas and http://www.electro-metrics.com/antennas-emi.html#Loop%20Antennas for several models to choose from. on 3/24/04 5:39 PM, Jacob Schanker at schan...@frontiernet.net wrote: > > Fellow Groupees: :) >