Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear experts, I am measuring the fundamental and spurious emissions from an EUT ( with interanl loop antenna) of fundamental frequencies of about 50kHz to 200kHz. The measuring range of spurious emission is up to 1GHz. The limits are according to a local standard from a local regulatory

Re: Radiated emission : Plasma TV vs. LCD TV

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
All things being equal (and of course, they never are), I would expect that a plasma display would be noisier. The scan rates of the two displays are equal, but the voltages swings are larger for a plasma display. Plus the power is much higher for a plasma display - just stand near one and you

Radiated emission : Plasma TV vs. LCD TV

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
In general, is it possible to say which one that has the lowest radiation? Cheers! #Amund Westin Oslo / Norway This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail

Re: Status of EN 55022

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
melli...@tycoint.com wrote (in 2141C5F52FD2CA4182AF6927090263B90F61B247@flbocexu04) about 'Status of EN 55022', on Tue, 21 Jun 2005: I know that over the last year there has been a lot of talk about the [quickly] upcoming EN 55022 requirements on the OJ. There had been some discussion

Re: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Derek, The FCC specifies using a loop antenna for measuring field strength below 30 MHz. Extrapolation can be used if the field strength is measured at two distances and the factor calculated (it will be close to 1/R^3), otherwise the default of 40 dB/decade (1/R^2) must be used. We normally

RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Derek and Robert, The fields from an electric dipole drop off as: Magnetic: 1/r^2 and 1/r Electric: 1/E^3, 1/E^2, and 1/E For a magnetic dipole (loop): Magnetic: 1/r^3, 1/r^2 and 1/r Electric: 1/E^2, and 1/E This link provides the formulas that will allow to to calculate the field strength

Re: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Forgot! E Fields from a true dipole do drop off at the inverse cube rate also, It's just that the fields almost always get referenced to a ground or ground plane which makes them drop off for all practical purposes at the rate of the inverse square. - Robert - From: Y W Leung

RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Derek, are your magnetic field measurements only in the range of 50 to 200 kHz? Or, do you intend to measure to 1 GHz? If the former, you may need to modify your 300 to 10 meter scaling for specific frequencies between 50 and 200 kHz. I can find you the formula for this. If the latter, you

RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Mr.. Leung, At low frequencies, you may have undesirable effects from underground pipes / etc... Or your EUT may be significantly large compared to the antenna to influence the measurement. This makes the assumption of 3rd order rolloff uncertain. The FCC guidance is to measure at 2

RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Mr. Leung, Here is an excerpt from the FCC Rules pertaining to measurements below 30 MHz using a loop antenna. At frequencies below 30 MHz, measurements may be performed at a distance closer than that specified in the regulations; however, an attempt should be made to avoid making

Re: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
A limit specified at 300 meters is outside my experience. I have seen limits at 1 m (military ), and 3, 10, and 30 meters (commercial). I'm not sure how to extrapolate below 30 MHz where you are using the EMCO loop. But above 30 MHz where you are only measuring electric field, the extrapolation

ethernet radiated emissions- thanks

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear colleagues; I would like to thank all those who replied to my predicament regarding emissions from an Ethernet port. I have had some first-class advice which will help me solve the problem. Many thanks; Ian McBurney. Allen Heath Limited. email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com ***LEGAL