Re: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ken very succinctly put. I believe it was me that you responded to in an earlier posting regarding Broadband over PowerLine (PowerLine Telecommunications in the UK and Europe). I have been trying to explain the point that you have made to those that write reports estimating the likely effects of

Re: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
There is a significant over-generalization here. An electrically small probe does not have to convert rf into heat and thereby measure total broadband pickup. There are any number of electrically short whips, dipoles and loops whose transducer factors as a function of frequency are well character

RE: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Bob Heller asked: >> How would one go about accurately measuring low frequency fields say at 10 kHz where the far-field even at lambda/6 is 5000 meters? << Accuracy and what regulatory authorities require are not always the same thing. It isn't hard to measure the magnetic field accurately, given

RE: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
By measuring the E and H components separately, using near-field probes, which are, in principle, electrically short dipoles and loops. The biggist price to pay is the sensitivity, since they are electrically short. Also, they pick up the broadband field that gets detected in the detector circuit (

RE: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
How would one go about accurately measuring low frequency fields say at 10 kHz where the far-field even at lambda/6 is 5000 meters? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 =

RE: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Richards [ mailto:b...@toprudder.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:06 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement. > > Ken, > > I believe you are correct. There should be factors for this > loop ant

RE: Need: Refurbished AC Source >3KVA

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
I can't help you with refurbished, but Chroma ATE Inc. of Taiwan manufacture a range of AC Power Sources that would more than meet your requirements. You will find that their prices are very reasonable compared to manufacturers from the other side of the Pacific, and the construction quality is exc

Telecom: T1 vs. E1 Protocol ???

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Group, Generally speaking, the US, Canada and Japan use T1 and everyone else is on E1. But there are countries like South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and a few others that also use T1. And I hear there are some countries that actually can use both protocols. Does anyone know of a website/link o

e: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Bob, You must be a crotchety old-timer like myself. Re the following from the appendix in MIL-STD-461E (it's there because I asked for it). The part I refer to is in italics. "Placement of limits can be done in several ways. Data may be displayed with respect to actual limit dimensions (such a

Re: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ken, I believe you are correct. There should be factors for this loop antenna from Emco that convert the raw reading (in dBuv) to a magnetic field level (like dBuA/m). The spectrum analyzer does NOT read in dBuv/m as he seems to suggest, it only reads in dBuv or dBm, but some anaylzers do allow f

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2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
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Re: ??? RE: ??? RE: Near field H-field measurement.

2005-06-23 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
I may be reading this post wrong, but the -51.5 dB factor is not an antenna factor at all. It is the ratio of magnetic to electric field intensity in a plane wave. It is -20*log (377). The use of that number is quite approximate in the near field of the transmitter. From: Y W Leung List-Post