Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Pete -- Thanks for the suggestion. I looked on the NFPA.org website at the NFPA 70 draft dated 4-8-2016 and there is a new section 422.6: "422.6 Listing Required All appliances operating at 50 volts or more shall be listed." The definition for "Listed" in article 100 of NFPA 70 is complicate

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Pete Perkins
Thanx to Joe and all for the comments, With Joe’s explanation I now know 2 people who follow the NEC changes regularly; it doesn’t seem to be too common in this circle. But my earlier point remains, it is possible to keep up with these changes by being part of the process.

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
As far as I know in North Carolina the NEC is adopted by version so the 2017 version will not apply until specifically adopted. NC usually waits a few years after the initial release for things to shake out before adopting the latest. And I believe the local inspector in NC has authority to ac

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-26 Thread Scott Douglas
And, by the way, don't forget the Department of Energy regulates External Power Supplies. The whole Level VI thing. On Jul 26, 2016 10:38 AM, "Ted Eckert" < 07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > > > The CPSC list you provided a link to covers mandatory national > requ

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Scott Aldous
...and there are jurisdictions on a level smaller than state that can adopt a version as well, such as counties and even cities. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Scott Douglas wrote: > Not only do states adopt specific versions, they often adopt just parts of > specific versions. And unless the

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Scott Douglas
Not only do states adopt specific versions, they often adopt just parts of specific versions. And unless they put specific language in the adoption law to allow newer or older sections, they are usually bound by what exactly was adopted. On Jul 26, 2016 12:28 PM, "Joe Randolph" wrote: > Hi Pete:

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Pete: Here’s my experience with keeping track of upcoming changes in NFPA 70. For the last two years I have been following the development of the 2017 edition of NFPA 70 because of some changes that it makes to Article 840, “Premises Powered Broadband Equipment.” In order to see the c

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-26 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Scott, The CPSC list you provided a link to covers mandatory national requirements for products covered by the CPSC. The key words are “national” and “mandatory”. There is no mandatory national safety requirement for televisions, refrigerators or many other consumer electrical products. O

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-26 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ted, Appreciate your detailed explanation that is very useful for me!  OSHA requirements are primarily on the use of equipment at work. For consumer or household products, they are governed by CPSC.  I visited CPSC website and tried to find the same thing there.  I found the mandatory

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Pete Perkins
CR, etal, Ok, so now you are mixing in additional regulatory requirements - FCC - on top of the safety requirements we have been discussing. So now, since they have been alerted HD will no longer sell items that do not meet the FCC emissions requirements - watch for the announ

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Pete Perkins
Doug, et al, If you were really interested you would be involved in the committee that revises the NEC every 3 years and have already read the pertinent changes in which you are interested. All of these changes are done in an open forum and the documents s

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-26 Thread Brian Gregory
NESC and NETA {2013} are both ANSI standards and are both pretty much aimed at the utility-distribution crowd: aka, 4 kV and above. Colorado Brian Gregory 720-450-4933 -- Original Message -- From: John Allen To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety requirement

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-26 Thread John Allen
What a web of "interconnecting" (and not!) US regulations, standards, codes and regulatory authorities!. But we still sometimes then get US-based questions on the "European Wiring Regs" or similar - seems like a case of "Physician, heal thyself" first. J John E Allen W.London, UK From: Scott