Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
The EC directive (and related documents) have tests to protect both on-board and off-board receivers. The vehicle test is practically the same as CISPR 12 and 55012. Luke Turnbull -Original Message- From: T.Sato [mailto:vef00...@nifty.ne.jp] Sent: 11 June 2014 13:09 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
with people who know the story - chapter and verse. Luke Turnbull -Original Message- From: McCallum, Andy [mailto:andy.mccal...@mottmac.com] Sent: 11 June 2014 13:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 Hi Tom But the difference

[PSES] Production Assurance Tests for EMC

2013-07-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
compliance? Thanks for your help. Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull West Midlands B90 4GW United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)121.627.3966 email: luke.turnb...@trw.com web: www.conekt.co.uk

Re: [PSES] Mode-stirred, Mode-tuned, Reverb - what's the difference?

2013-05-10 Thread Luke Turnbull
I've seen this on a video related to Frank Leferink's reverb tents, where the modes are stirred by shaking the side wall of the tent. The fabric is think enough to see the tube inside. Luke Turnbull From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: 09 May 2013 18

Re: [PSES] Mode-stirred, Mode-tuned, Reverb - what's the difference?

2013-05-09 Thread Luke Turnbull
-- 'The Plate In The Reverb Chamber'. Thanks to all who replied. This is a corner of EMC testing I've never been involved with. If EMC is called black magic by some, mode-tuned/stirred/stepped chambers sound like black magic^2. Pat On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Luke Turnbull luke.turnb

Re: [PSES] Mode-stirred, Mode-tuned, Reverb - what's the difference?

2013-04-29 Thread Luke Turnbull
in a reverberation chamber. Our methods achieve a minimum 3000 V/m, 1-18 GHz in a regular anechoic chamber. Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull West Midlands B90 4GW United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)121.627.3966 email: luke.turnb

RE: Anechoic Chamber: Pass-through vs. Bulkhead

2009-01-14 Thread Luke Turnbull
immunity levels will be pouring out of the chamber. We try to use hydraulic thru connectors which we fit to the penetration panel mentioned in Ed's article. Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull West Midlands B90 4GW Tel:+44 (0

High Quality RF Cables for Lab use

2009-01-07 Thread Luke Turnbull
, and the pins becoming proud within approx 1.5 years of use. I would be interested in recommendations of cable / connector types that are extremely secure and have a stable pin depth. Thanks for your help, Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road

Mobile Phones in EMC Labs

2008-12-09 Thread Luke Turnbull
Hi all, Should we ban the use of mobile phones in our test lab (i.e. outside our test chambers, but in the same EM environment as the sig gens, spectrum analysers, receivers etc.)? Opinions with reasons would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Luke Turnbull Conekt is a trading division

Re: Radiated emission - time at each frequency

2008-12-04 Thread Luke Turnbull
for each Max Hold segment. If there are any intermittent events shorter than the peak-and-flyback time, they will probably be insignificant when measured with a QP detector anyway. (And CISPR 14 disregards clicks shorter than 200 ms anyway). Best Regards, Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC

Re: DC Coupled Amplifier

2008-12-01 Thread Luke Turnbull
these for 28 V DC aircraft power quality tests. I hope this helps. Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull West Midlands B90 4GW Tel:+44 (0)121.627.3966 Mobile: +44 (0)7730.671284 Fax: +44 (0)121.627.4353 email: luke.turnb

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Luke Turnbull
Tim, RS receivers do not have to go back to the manufacturer. We have our receivers calibrated on site by a UK calibration lab. Luke Turnbull emcp...@aol.com 20 November 2008 19:39 Hello, I'm looking to purchase an EMI receiver for use in a 5 meter chamber. Does anyone recommend

DO-160 Section 15 - Calibration of Compass

2008-10-02 Thread Luke Turnbull
. Does anybody have any experience with this test and the calibration of the compass? Thanks, Luke Turnbull Conekt is a trading division of TRW Limited Registered in England, No. 872948 Registered Office Address: Stratford Road, Solihull B90 4AX

I'm looking for some authors

2008-07-08 Thread Luke Turnbull
8P2 (paper published in 2005) If anyone has information that will help me contact these people, could you please contact me offline? Thanks for your help, Luke Turnbull Conekt is a trading division of TRW Limited Registered in England, No. 872948 Registered Office Address: Stratford Road

Re: EMC Directive, RTTE Directive etc

2003-11-24 Thread Luke Turnbull
Anyone know where there are pdfs? Luke Turnbull Helge Knudsen h.knud...@niros.com 11/21/03 05:35pm Dear Group, I have just recognized new listings in OJ: RTTE: C271 of 2003-11-12 EMC: C271 of 2003-11-12 Medical Devices: C273 of 2003-11-14 And others Visit: http://europa.eu.int/comm

Re: Automotive directive

2003-11-10 Thread Luke Turnbull
Amund, The directive contains all of the testing methods required and does not refer to other standards. There is a new draft automotive EMC directive that contains requirements for ISO 7637 Transients as well as radiated emission and radiated immunity that are in the current directive. Luke

What standards - vehicle diagnostic tester

2003-11-04 Thread Luke Turnbull
Does anyone have an opinion on what commercial EMC standards I should apply to a product that reads and writes information via a vehicle diagnostic connector. Thanks, Luke Turnbull This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit

Re: Window of Uncertainty

2003-10-31 Thread Luke Turnbull
above the limit. Luke Turnbull Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com 10/31/03 03:22am Sorry for the pedantry, but a failure with respect to a logarithmic limit is given in dB, not dB with respect to the measurement unit. The failure is specified as a ratio relative to the limit

Re: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread Luke Turnbull
this helps, Luke Turnbull kcc...@hkpc.org 10/29/03 08:59am Dear all I got confused with the effective length of a half wave dipole. 1) It is due to non-constant current distribution, or 2) It is due to the wave velocity in materials different from that in vacuum. What do you think which one

Re: Balun of bi-conical antenna.

2003-10-13 Thread Luke Turnbull
Any Commercially available Biconical Antenna should have a balun built in to the structure of the antenna. (Normally a block that the elements connect into). The output will be a 50ohm N-type or BNC and can be used with the usual 50ohm unbalanced cable. Luke Turnbull LEUNG YAT WAH DEREK ywle

Insertion loss of an injection probe

2003-08-20 Thread Luke Turnbull
Dear group, I have a BCI testing standard that states the insertion loss of an injection probe must be less than 7dB. Does anyone have an idea about what they mean by the insertion loss? Thanks, Luke Turnbull This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc

RE: ESD - not applicable ?

2003-06-24 Thread Luke Turnbull
if there is this reads across directly to compliance, but I think it probably does. Luke Turnbull Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com 06/24/03 04:15pm Mike, I'm still not sold. I understand the specific exemptions for circuit cards, battery compartments and the like; but I can't follow

RE: another OATS question

2003-06-23 Thread Luke Turnbull
I think that NSA is done with the maximum over a height scan as well, hence the Spec Ana is good because you can put it on max hold. Luke Turnbull drcuthb...@micron.com 06/23/03 05:40pm Yes that will work too. I like the SNA or VNA because they calibrate out the cable loss. As I understand

RE: another OATS question

2003-06-23 Thread Luke Turnbull
Or a Spectrum analyser with tracking generator. drcuthb...@micron.com 06/20/03 06:58pm Renting a VNA or SNA would really speed things up. Dave From: emcp...@aol.com [mailto:emcp...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:02 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: another OATS

Re: Question about OATS

2003-06-20 Thread Luke Turnbull
If you're going to put plate down, then you should paint it white. It makes a huge difference to the temperature changes you will get in the metal. Luke Turnbull emcp...@aol.com 06/19/03 09:00pm Hello everyone, Thanks for your input. I can go somewhat diagonal to the fence with the test

Re: Question about OATS

2003-06-19 Thread Luke Turnbull
for fixed antenna heights. Try to get good agreement in the peaks and don't worry too much about the nulls. It is possible, but messy, to do the NSA calculations in Excel, because it can do complex numbers. Good luck! Dr Luke Turnbull Principal EMC Engineer TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull

ESD Problem

2003-05-27 Thread Luke Turnbull
Would the gentleman who is on the 61000-4-2 committee please put his hand up? Thanks, Luke Turnbull This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your

CISPR 16-4.

2003-05-08 Thread Luke Turnbull
Dear all, Does anyone know if CISPR 16-4 (Uncertainty in EMC measurements) is called up by any testing standard, or whether it is to be called up in the future? Otherwise, it appears that this standard is an interesting read, but nothing more. Thanks Dr Luke Turnbull Principal EMC Engineer

Re: Check list for PCB Layout

2003-04-29 Thread Luke Turnbull
Shouldn't you sign off as EMC Guru rather than EMC Consultant? :-) Luke Turnbull John Howard jhow...@emcguru.com 04/28/03 06:32pm I'm curious about Genius Institute as well. I belong to Mensa, but I've never heard of a Genius Institute. John Howard EMC Consultant james.free...@infineon.com

Re: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-31 Thread Luke Turnbull
can't use the charger and radio together, or I make sure the phone is charged before going out. Dr Luke Turnbull Principal EMC Engineer TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull B90 4GW Tel: +44 (0)121.627.3966 Fax:+44 (0)121.627.4353 email: luke.turnb...@trw.com web: www.trw.com/conekt

RE: Superseded standard

2003-02-28 Thread Luke Turnbull
Or just re-test now to 61000-6-1. Luke Turnbull Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclaren.com 02/27/03 12:52pm EN50082-1:1992 was withdrawn on 1 July 2001. Products tested to that standard should have been re-tested to the :1997 version which will in turn be withdrawn on 1 July 2004

Information required about inductive coupling network.

2003-02-18 Thread Luke Turnbull
a manual that they would like to scan and email to me I would be very grateful. Thanks, Luke Turnbull This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your

Re: CALIBRATION OF FIELD FOR EN61000-4-3

2003-02-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
discussions about placement that you might get if you tried to position the probe for each point seperately. Luke Turnbull Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com 02/11/03 11:07am Everybody We have a Holaday 4433 HSE field strength probe and would like to use this to establish an area of uniform

GPIB filtered bulkhead connectors.

2003-02-10 Thread Luke Turnbull
Group, Does anyone know where I can buy filtered bulkhead connectors for running GPIB cables through screened room walls. Approximate cost? Alternatively, does anyone know suppliers and cost for GPIB fibre-optic extenders. Thanks, Luke Turnbull This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

Re: Resource for Online Standard.

2003-02-10 Thread Luke Turnbull
My last company subscribed to BSI http://bsonline.techindex.co.uk/ which allowed all employees to view most IEC, ISO, CENELEC standards. It worked very well. I don't think that it would be cheap though. Luke Turnbull Cheng-Wee Lai chengwee_...@emclab2000.com 02/08/03 12:24am All, I know

Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services

2003-01-02 Thread Luke Turnbull
This won't work. If you want to look at how badly online forums work, look at the IEE website. Maybe one of the group can set up a list server elsewhere if the IEEE is sure it wants to stop the service. Luke Turnbull. Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com 12/31/02 06:19pm Effective today, we

Re: rayleigh criterion and farfield

2002-11-22 Thread Luke Turnbull
of a wavelength, the the far field pattern is not realised because of phase error / cancellation. Hence at higher frequencies (shorter wavelengths), the same position in front of the antenna will have phase errors where there were no problems at lower frequencies. Hope this helps, Dr Luke

Re: E-field probe for immunity testing

2002-11-13 Thread Luke Turnbull
Wandel and Goltermann, and Narda both make field probes. I belive the WG probes are fiber optically linked. The older Narda probes aren't and are not suitable. I'm not sure what their latest products look like. Luke Turnbull richwo...@tycoint.com 11/12/02 05:11pm I am seeking sources

Directive 97/24/EC

2002-11-12 Thread Luke Turnbull
Group, Does anyone know where I might find a pdf version of this document. The text is public domain, but the version that is on the europa website doesn't have the pictures. Thanks, Luke Turnbull --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

Re: CE marking/testing of military equipment

2002-10-31 Thread Luke Turnbull
I believe that the Germans insist on military equipment being CE marked. UK military equipment needs to comply with Def Stan 59-41 for EMC requirements. Find it at www.dstan.mod.uk Luke Turnbull plaw...@west.net 10/30/02 05:48pm I have a customer asking for CISPR 22 test results

Re: Effects of the Ground Plane

2002-10-17 Thread Luke Turnbull
. -- Dr Luke Turnbull Principal EMC Engineer TRW Conekt Statford Road Solihull B90 4GW Tel: +44 (0)121.627.3966 email: luke.turnb...@trw.com -- Tony raym...@bellsouth.net 10/17/02 02:45pm Hi group, I am

Re: Immunity severity levels

2002-09-19 Thread Luke Turnbull
the methods from the 61000-4 series and tell you what level should be applied. You need to look through the Official Journal of the EC (OJEC) list of standards and find the particular immunity standard that applies to your product. One place you can find the list is at www.yorkemc.co.uk. Luke