Re: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk?

2017-06-09 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
nion piece to the Electric Knife; it didn’t do anything but looked good, cord and all, alongside the Electric Knife.)   :>) br,  Pete Peter E Perkins, PEPrincipal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs ConsultantPO Box 23427Tigard, ORe  97281-3427 503/452-1201 p.perk...@ieee.org From: Mike Sherm

Re: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk?

2017-06-09 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
?  Is this “in addition to” the product family standard, which may only prescribe RI to 3GHz?   Thank you, Chet Summers   From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:20 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RED ZigBee 6

[PSES] Radio Equipment Directive: What replaces EN 301-489-7:2005?

2017-05-24 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
We buy a radio device that currently declared to be in conformance with EN 301-489-7:2005, among other standards. However, when I look at the ETSI site that documents progress on updating standards for the RED requirements, I'm not finding EN 301-489-7:2005. Does anyone know whether: -the

[PSES] RED ZigBee 6 GHz Immunity Testing: Technical Risk?

2017-04-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Esteemed colleagues: I've got what I'm told is a fully RED compliant ZigBee module that goes into equipment that I'm told now must be immunity tested to 6 GHz the RED (the chip reportedly already passes). Connections to my equipment are data and power. We have no experience immunity testing

[PSES] RED, "Radio Equipment" and USB Dongle and the like

2017-04-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Esteemed colleagues: I'm trying to map the boundaries of "radio equipment" under RED by examples. Do you agree with the following two examples? EXAMPLE 1: USB Dongle I use a USB dongle to add WiFi to an old laptop. The dongle is the radio equipment, but the laptop was not and does not become

[PSES] RED Guide: New Draft + Final Published Version?

2017-04-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Esteemed colleagues: 1. Can anyone share the March 25, 2017 draft? 2. A REDCA notice stated that comments on the draft were being accepted through April 14. Does anyone know of a final publish/release date? thanks, Mike Sherman Graco Inc. -

Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

2017-04-04 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Thank goodness for DIN rails! Had to drill and tap 2-4 holes per component into the panel before DIN rails, and it took forever. The Panduit grey wire duct seemed to be a natural companion to DIN rails. A well assembled box from a 508A panel shop is indeed a thing of beauty and a credit to the

[PSES] Access to draft ETSI EN standards for RED?

2017-03-09 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Esteemed colleagues --Do you know of a way to gain access to the draft ETSI EN standards for the Radio Equipment Directive without paying 6000 euros to join ETSI?ThanksMike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -

Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED

2017-03-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Seems to me that IR does not communicate in the radio frequency range, but BT and RF do, so I would say IR is out of RED scope but BT and RF are within scope. What opinions do others have? Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Scott Xe" To:

Re: [PSES] Questions on GFCI & GFEP

2017-02-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Another thing: these are typically "shunt trip" products, which leads to periodic testing to verify that they are still functional. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Vincent LeeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: February 15, 2017 at 8:49 PMSubject: [PSES]

Re: [PSES] Questions on GFCI & GFEP

2017-02-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
In North America, UL 943 covers GFCIs, which trip somewhere in the 4-6 mA range. UL 1053 covers GFEPs, which are not for personnel protection and can have much higher trip settings. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Vincent LeeTo:

Re: [PSES] Co-located modules

2017-02-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Bill -- This "in the same enclosure" interpretation sounds new and drastic to me. Do you have any official document/link on this interpretation? thanks Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Bill Stumpf" To: "EMC-PSTC"

Re: [PSES] RED and "putting on the market"

2017-02-08 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer or the European Commission. From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:17 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RED and "putting on the mark

[PSES] RED and "putting on the market"

2017-02-02 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
It is my understanding that products that are not RED compliant but are RTTE compliant can be "put on the market" through June 12, 2017. For the purpose of products manufactured outside of the EU, is "put on the market" equivalent to being physically brought into the EU? I'm asking this

Re: [PSES] EMC Harmonized Standard for Construction Electrical Vibrator?

2017-02-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Vibrator? Is EMC even applicable?  Are there high frequency clocks in it?   -Dave   From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 2:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EMC Harmonized Standard for Construction

[PSES] EMC Harmonized Standard for Construction Electrical Vibrator?

2017-02-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I'm trying to determine the correct EN EMC standards for an electrical vibrator used in construction. 230V cord and plug connected, portable. I'm thinking generic light industrial, EN 61000-6-1 + EN 61000-3. Any thoughts from this august group on more specific, or different, standards?

[PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Because of the lack of polarization on many 2 pin European plugs, I have always recommended double pole mains switches on cord connected products for the EU market. However, I am not finding support for this in standards such as 60335-1, 60601-1 or 62368-1. Your thoughts will be appreciated,

Re: [PSES] WEEE symbol - solid bar

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Both 2002/96/EC WEEE and 2012/19/EU WEEE require that the "crossed-out wheeled bin" (COWB) be marked on the EEE. EN 50419:2005 introduced the requirement to indicate when the product was put on the market, and allows two options: -a date code or -the solid bar underneath the COWB.

Re: [PSES] Non-grounded electrical outlets

2017-01-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I have knob and tube left on, I think, one circuit in my 99 year old house. It's on my list to be replaced soon. It has some impressive soldered splices, but charm has its limits. I agree that it's a bear to unearth and replace. My experience with the insulation is that it is now brittle.

Re: [PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Title: Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor Note that for the RoHS July 2019 items that come into scope, products  in distribution in the EU but not yet sold become illegal to sell. This provision created a lot of discussion but no regulatory relief a couple of years ago. Sent from

Re: [PSES] Placing on the Market

2016-12-07 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Title: Re: [PSES] EN 302 195 Distance Conversion Factor Last time I had this question, the current Blue Guide gave me a pretty definitive answer. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: December

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Start with 62133, but understand that it takes far more than this for a safe battery/charger system. The technology is moving faster than the standards.Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Stephen WhalenTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent:

Re: [PSES] Shorting switch - appropriate markings

2016-10-11 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Application sounds like "lock out tag out. " Might offer another way to think about useful symbols (e.g., padlock). Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Scott AldousTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: October 11, 2016 at 10:30 AMSubject:

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Be aware that the EU has some energy efficiency requirements for 3 phase motors. Motors designed for 60 hertz may well have more difficulty meeting these requirements. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: September

[PSES] Product Safety & Compliance Engineer Opening in Minneapolis

2016-08-02 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
At Graco Inc. (manufacturer of industrial pumps and sprayers, not the other, baby products Graco) we're looking for a 4th engineer in our product safety and compliance group. Perky HR blurb and job description link are below; contact me directly for pertinent details beyond the on-line

Re: [PSES] NEC 2017

2016-07-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Pete -- Thanks for the suggestion. I looked on the NFPA.org website at the NFPA 70 draft dated 4-8-2016 and there is a new section 422.6: "422.6 Listing Required All appliances operating at 50 volts or more shall be listed." The definition for "Listed" in article 100 of NFPA 70 is

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-25 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
NEC is specifically NFPA 70, otherwise known as the National Electrical Code. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian O'ConnellTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: July 25, 2016 at 7:26 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US By 'NEC", will assume

Re: [PSES] software safety

2016-07-11 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Rich -- Don't know quite where you're going with this. I can't think of any software that can operate without hardware. But you can have a software failure even if one's hardware sensors are operating correctly. Think of an algorithm monitoring a pressure vessel for a thermal runaway. I

Re: [PSES] EMO vs EPO

2016-06-27 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
EPO in my experience is used to remove power from an area, say a room. EMO in my experience is used in the semiconductor manufacturing business to bring everything to a safe condition. I have not seen it used outside the semi industry. It is defined in the SEMI S2 safety standard.  I can provide a

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

2016-06-23 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
fees to the Listing Agency to use something else – from bitter personal experience with equipment which was “dropped on me”, that is NOT a good idea!) John E AllenW.London, UK From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: 23 June 2016 16:54To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

2016-06-23 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Also be aware that there is a minimum wire gage size for the incoming mains wire inside the equipment. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: June 23, 2016 at 8:49 AMSubject: Re: [PSES] insulated wiresTry the US

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

2016-04-14 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Regarding "avoidabiility": 1. I used it typically for mechanical/kinetic hazards, such as being hit by a robot, where human reflex times were relevant. I did not use it for most other risk assessments (e.g., shock, explosion). 2. I gave it a scale of 0 to 1, then subtracted it from 1: risk

[PSES] EMCD: Alternatives to Harmonized Standards?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
The new EMC Directive refers briefly to the option of applying "other relevant technical standards" in place of harmonized standards. I'm looking at some electrical construction equipment whose use might be best described as some combination of light and heavy industrial. Does anyone have

Re: [PSES] Insulation testing

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I've always thought the Canada requirement was 40 amps for 2 minutes. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Richard NuteTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: March 3, 2016 at 1:37 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] Insulation testing  Hi Ralph:  It seems

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

2015-08-04 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
: Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltageHi Mike,Testing at 240V is understandable. Should the product be marked as 230 V in order to meet the nominal mains voltage for Australia and avoid any challenge from regulators.Regards,ScottOn 4 Aug, 2015, at 1:33 am, Mike Sherman - Original

Re: [PSES] Australia/New Zealands mains voltage

2015-08-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Typical Australian national deviations to IEC end product standards require you to test as if your product is marked for 240V, even if it is marked, say, 230V. An Australian regulator with whom I spoke a couple of years ago stated that he had 252V measured at his office receptacle.Mike

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Does anyone know of an off the shelf product that could be plugged between the product and the GFCI that would reduce the nuisance trips? Might give Brian some relief as he redesigns his product. Mike ShermanSent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Ted EckertTo:

Re: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools

2015-06-05 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
61029 might also be worth a look. TC 116 is also working on a similar 62841 series. MikeSent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Ted EckertTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: June 5, 2015 at 3:46 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools Hello

Re: [PSES] D of C and product safety warnings and caution markings

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Our one-page DoC is sparse on text, but contains all EU languages. Gets a little crowded, but it's our understanding of the regulatory requirements. Mike ShermanGraco zinc. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: May

[PSES] Russian EAC Life Time and Storage Time References in Manual

2015-03-17 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
The Customs Union EAC mark, which came into effect two days ago, requires that references to life time and storage time be placed in the manual. Does anyone know of any guidance or examples of what is considered to be sufficient? thanks Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer

Re: [PSES] Nameplate and DoC requirements Machinery Directive

2015-03-17 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
) certifications or accreditations, as far as both the activities and geographical locations covered by the certifications and product use applications are concerned. another Brian -- Original Message -- From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - msherma...@comcast.net

Re: [PSES] Nameplate and DoC requirements Machinery Directive

2015-03-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Brian -- I would think a model number might suffice as designation of the machinery. In my way of thinking, there has to be something that ties the nameplate to the DoC; we use the model number, not a functional description---have never run into that interpretation before. Although the

[PSES] New China Battery Charger Standard GB 4706.18-2014

2015-03-13 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Does anyone know whether this updated standard includes requirements for reduced spacings at high altitudes and more rigorous humidity testing, as we've seen in other recent Chinese standards? thanks, Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. -

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

2015-03-06 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Re ... and dismissal of identifiable risks deemed conveniently unlikely to occur. This is a real issue in organizations, and was a key contributor to the Columbia space shuttle disaster. NASA's Columbia Accident Investigation Board's final report explores this contributor a lot. The report

Re: [PSES] Signal words, definition and usage

2015-03-04 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Re use the signal words for other purposes than potential injury: 1. Windows 95, I think it was, broadly corrupted the exclamation point/triangle hazard symbol by placing it in their pop up system error boxes. I'm glad to see that this is no longer practiced. 2. I once had a discussion at a

Re: [PSES] Signal words, definition and usage

2015-03-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Exclamation point (in a triangle) is explicitly associated with a personal injury hazard. Its use with a NOTICE, which is explicitly not a personal injury hazard, is not in accordance with the ANSI or ISO standards. In my experience, UL standards are often not in synch with these latest ISO

Re: [PSES] ISM-use of a non-ISM frequency

2015-01-20 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Are there alternate medical equipment EMC standards (i.e., 60601-x series) that would give you more leeway? Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Product Safety and Compliance Engineer - Original Message - From: Niels Hougaard n...@bolls.dk To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent:

Re: [PSES] Arc Flash Requirements NFPA 79

2014-12-17 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Dave -- ANSI Z535.4 is the standard for warning labels for equipment. Clarion, and likely other vendors, have samples on their web page. Mike - Original Message - From: Dave Nyffenegger dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: [PSES] Prop 65 Labeling

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
There is no legal penalty for over warning for Cal Prop 65, so you should be fine. Mike Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Doug PowellTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: December 10, 2014 at 6:21 PMSubject: [PSES] Prop 65 Labeling All,I have what might be

Re: [PSES] Seismic requirements- Euro Machinery Directive

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Italy still gets quakes on a regular basis. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Lauren Crane lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:58:07 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Seismic requirements- Euro Machinery

Re: [PSES] Country of manufacture pictogram

2014-11-14 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Note that the ISO country codes are also available on the ISO Online Browsing Platform: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#home . Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Dan Roman, N.C.E. danp...@verizon.net To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, November 14,

Re: [PSES] Scope of NFPA 79

2014-10-08 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Ditto -- I would stick with the NRTL 61010-1. You can't list to NFPA 79, and field labeling this sort of equipment to NFPA 79 simply invites some real but irrelevant nonconformances that will prevent your machine from being used until you retrofit it (experience speaking here). NFPA 70, by

Re: [PSES] Made in labelling in the EU

2014-10-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Good summary of what I know is here: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=ff7bd38f-0f81-4e5f-94c7-a16d3d05368d - Original Message - From: Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:27:33 AM Subject: [PSES] Made in

Re: [PSES] Made in labelling in the EU

2014-10-03 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
John -- Precisely what you describe is already a registered ISO symbol. If you go to the only ISO browsing platform https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#home then click on Graphical symbols then type in factory you'll see symbol # 6049. Now all we have to do is get people to start using this???

Re: [PSES] California Prop 65

2014-10-02 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Gary -- The basis of the law is that one should not expose citizens of California to any of these chemicals known to the State of... without first warning them. No requirement to remove them. Appears to be a name and shame approach that has had some success in companies removing some

Re: [PSES] Buying Standards

2014-09-24 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Gert -- Look on the Estonian web site for the multi-user license option. It does use FileOpen software. The multi-user license specifically allows a network installation. I recommend that you buy one of the less expensive standards with a multi-user license and test it on your system to

Re: [PSES] Multiple power sources

2014-07-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
The latter makes more sense to me. I see a critical purpose of the nameplate as providing the instructions to the electrician regarding how to properly bring and protect the mains supply to the machine. I don't want any confusion in this matter. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original

[PSES] Benchmarking Reporting Relationships (Corporate Management Structure)

2014-06-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
We are benchmarking how other manufacturers structure their internal reporting relationships. Our Product Safety and Compliance group currently reports up through a divisional Engineering manager. To whom does your Product Safety and Compliance group report? Corporate Legal? Corporate

Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards

2014-06-12 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
too good to be true, then it IS too good to be true. I'd be interested to know if/what the catch is here. Otherwise, I might just go into the standards brokering business! ;-) Thanks, Tony - Original Message - From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - Sent

Re: [PSES] Machinery Directive 1.7.1

2014-06-10 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
This is a conundrum that regularly leads to different labels for different markets. An approach that uses pictograms and symbols only that might well be acceptable in the EU might well be judged to be legally insufficient for the USA market because it lacks warning text. Then once you put text

[PSES] Chinese CCC Requirements for Altitude and Tropics

2014-05-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I'm exploring CCC marking a product for China. I've been told that unless the product passes certain tests, it has to be marked as not for use: above 2000 m; or in tropical regions. I'm assuming that the 2000 m issue is related to clearances, and the tropics to some sort of additional humidity

Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards

2014-05-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Not aware of any price breaks through IEEE. Best pricing I've found is through Estonia: http://www.evs.ee/shop Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Dave Nyffenegger dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:51:53 AM

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Based on a year of spot XRF testing hardware procured from a supplier with a pretty good RoHS program in place: 1. Zinc with clear chromate is low risk. 2. Yellow chromate traditionally is hexavalent chromium and therefore verboten under RoHS. 3. Black chromate may or may not be RoHS

Re: [PSES] EN 60204-1 Degrees of Protection

2014-05-05 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Jim -- Yes, but surprises do happen. I once had some very expensive equipment in a top notch clean room that got thoroughly soaked when a pipe above the ceiling burst. Very expensive clean up. A guide to IP codes that I've found useful is:

Re: [PSES] ACA (ACMA) approval process time

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Gary -- C-tick is going away, being replaced by RCM. You can no longer obtain the N manufacturer ID number required to be used with the C-tick mark. RCM registration is on-line. RCM now also covers electrical safety, as well as EMC. The EMC stuff can be  self-declare, depending upon

Re: [PSES] Australian EMC requirements for military equipment

2014-03-13 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Charlie -- I am not aware that Australia might be enforcing ACMA requirements at customs---that would be news to me. I've gotten excellent (same day) responses from ACMA by posting questions via the link on their website. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer

[PSES] IEC Standard for Cord Extension Set with Surge Suppressor?

2014-02-24 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Can any of you recommend an appropriate IEC standard for a 230V, 16A  cord extension set that incorporates an in-line surge suppressor? I'm interested primarily in standards for the surge suppressor, not the cord, plug, or extension socket. Thanks! Mike Sherman Product Safety and

[PSES] Wire Nuts in Motor Junction Boxes?

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Can anyone: -confirm that wire nuts are not allowed in induction motor junction boxes in the EU? -provide reasons why? -suggest solutions other than permanently mounted terminal strips? I'm not finding this in IEC 60204-1, but it seems to be a common practice that IEC motors have

Re: [PSES] Wire lug nomenclature meaning?

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
My vague recollection is that specialized crimped lug requirements in the semiconductor equipment industry originated in Japan and were copied by some large players in Korea. The designation origins may therefore be Japanese. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Mark -- This is indeed puzzling. The EHSRs are all in Annex I of the Machinery Safety Directive (MSD). When you do a DoC, you are typically  implicitly and explicitly declaring compliance with all relevant EHSRs. Annex II of the MSD has the requirements for DoC and DoI. However,

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
There was a successful lawsuit against ASME years ago over conflict of interest , and this lawsuit affected how standards creation bodies have operated ever since (Google Hydrolevel vs. ASME---I think this is the case). Beyond that, I'm hoping the courts would recognize that a successful

Re: [PSES] Australia regulation question

2013-11-05 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
I've gotten excellent response service  from authorities from   inquiries posted through the ACMA web site. - Original Message - From: Anders Svensson B anders.b.svens...@ericsson.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 2:29:23 AM Subject: [PSES] Australia

Re: [PSES] Concerning EN 61010-1, §9.6 Overcurrent protection

2013-11-01 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
If you think of non-permanently connected equipment as cord-and-plug connected equipment, it is not uncommon for cord-and-plug connected equipment to rely upon the facility mains overcurrent protection (i.e., a circuit breaker in a distribution panel). Mike Sherman Product Safety and

[PSES] Test Lab Approved for AS/NZS 3112 Power Plugs?

2013-10-02 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Esteemed colleagues -- I'm looking for a test lab that is approved to run AS/NZS 3112 power plug tests in order to obtain a certificate for our design from Australian authorities. Can you recommend one, or are you one? Please reply privately. Thanks! Mike Sherman Graco Inc.

Re: [PSES] Directives applicable to ITEq

2013-09-11 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
RoHS 2, 2011/65/EU, became effective 3 Jan uary 2013 as a CE marking directive. Different scope extensions become effective through 2019. More substances are under consideration for restriction; some reports on this are due in the summer of 2014, as I recall. Mike Sherman Graco Inc.

Re: [PSES] Wire ampacities -

2013-09-04 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
With that short a conductor length, you might get some significant conductive cooling axially through the copper. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: IBM Ken ibm...@gmail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent:

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Lauren -- A similar thread is currently running on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/CISPR-22-24-compliance-update-2278131.S.269600494?view=gid=2278131type=memberitem=269600494trk=eml-anet_dig-b_nd-pst_ttle-cn Here is my comment on that thread, but I look forward to the

[PSES] Chart summarizing differences between versions of EN EMC standards?

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Does anyone know of a chart or table or white paper that lists the differences between various versions of EN EMC standards? Specific example: what changed between 2006 and 2001 versions of EN 6000-6-2? thanks, Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. -

Re: [PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives

2013-08-27 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Perhaps  the EU is not ready to recycle under WEEE  all the products that will fall into RoHS Category 11, such as small gasoline/petrol engines. Category 11 is pretty broad. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Scott Xe

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
All NFPA standards are freely viewable at www.nfpa.org . Creating standards costs money. Darned interesting legal theory, and another example of the disruptive nature of the Internet. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message -

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] ANSI Z 535 in Canada

2013-08-16 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Note that the committees for ANSI Z535.4 and ISO 3864 have done a lot of work over the last 15 years to allow a single, combined format to be used in both the USA and the rest of the world. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message -

Re: [PSES] ANSI Z 535 in Canada

2013-08-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
We use Z535.4 for all of our warnings labels that are used in USA and Canada, and I know of no problems that we've ever had with them. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent:

Re: [PSES] BS non-rewirable plugs

2013-07-25 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Ground/earth continuity is extremely important for electrical medical equipment, at least in part because sedated or comatose patients can lack a let-go reflex. Clear plugs presumably allow users to periodically visually check the robustness of the conductor/pin connection. Mike Sherman

[PSES] Australian Power Plugs: Require Molded Approval Number?

2013-07-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Power plugs for Australian/New Zealand cord-connected equipment must comply with AS/NZS 3112. QUESTION: does the approval number (e.g., V100063) need to be molded onto or otherwise marked on  the plug? This is not required by clause 2.12.1 in my old, 2000 copy of AZ/NZS 3112, but it looks