Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-02-01 Thread Douglas Smith
the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Monday 1 February 2016 03:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Doug's

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Javor
" > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:05:32 +0100 > To: > Conversation: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents > Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents > > As a rule of thumb the transfer impedance (Zt) is the load impedance of

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
016 03:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Doug's point is well taken. If you know the probe's transfer impedance, and you know it works properly (is well-shielded) then instead of just "getting a number" and trying t

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-31 Thread Ken Javor
h is the actual goal. BTW, SAE ARP 6236 shows how you can measure your probe's transfer impedance. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: Doug Smith > Reply-To: > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:21:19 -0800 > To: > Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-31 Thread Doug Smith
metal shield to prevent capacitive coupling. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: Amund Westin > Reply-To: Amund Westin > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:21:48 +0100 > To: > Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents > > A clamp-on ferrite with a

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-31 Thread Ken Javor
You needed a metal shield to prevent capacitive coupling. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: Amund Westin > Reply-To: Amund Westin > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 20:21:48 +0100 > To: > Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents > > A clamp-

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-31 Thread Amund Westin
arc-requ...@ieee.org <mailto:00f5a03f18eb-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> > Reply-To: Bill Owsley mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com> > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 07:26:08 + To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents If you can m

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-19 Thread Ken Javor
not affecting the average current on the cable. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: John Allen Reply-To: John Allen Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:30:10 - To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Richard & Folks (at least in the UK) FWIW, I was at the

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-19 Thread John Allen
: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Just as Gert and Ralf say, ferrites used for EMC purposes are , if the ferrite material is properly chosen for the frequency range concerned, predominately RESISTIVE not inductive. Therefore they damp out reson

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-19 Thread Richard Marshall
Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: 18 January 2016 22:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents " I have been experimenting with this and in several cases using a ferrite clamp at the end of cabling seems to "sta

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-18 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
fied testing bv - Gert Gremmen" To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 01/16/2016 01:41 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Hi Doug et al, If I understand well, the ferrite creates a virtual end of cable for EUT2, allowing the cable to resonate ?? Interestin

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
any other experiences from members on this list. Gert Gremmen -Original Message- From: Doug Smith [mailto:d...@emcesd.com] Sent: zaterdag 16 januari 2016 1:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents Hi Everone, Here is an interesting case where

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-15 Thread Doug Smith
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents I think it is important to not lose sight of the original query that started this thread. The query was about whether placing a current probe around a cable perturbe

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-15 Thread Ken Javor
omething as > obscure as cable bundle tightness. > > Ed Price > WB6WSN > Chula Vista, CA USA > > > > From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:53 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-15 Thread Ed Price
: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents I think it is important to not lose sight of the original query that started this thread. The query was about wh

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-15 Thread Ken Javor
Owsley Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 07:26:08 + To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents If you can measure common mode noise on a cable, you have a problem from the port !! Note the world famous Ott's math on this effect in his 1st edition. Might be in his 2nd too.

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-14 Thread Bill Owsley
e done it this way for over 25 years and so we are not changing it now.   It works (I have to make it work) so don't change anything.  Sucks to be me - but I do like a challenge. From: Ken Wyatt To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:24 PM Subjec

[PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

2016-01-14 Thread Ken Wyatt
Ken is correct. Near field probes are good for finding sources, but current probes are better for characterizing the emissions from cables. However, if the EUT has a leaky enclosure, or other radiating structures besides cables, you'll really need to monitor the emissions from a distance while y