[Bulk] Re: EMI Receivers - Now Terminology

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Ken Javor writes: >The clear and undeniable truth is that radiated emission limits are >necessary to protect BCB radio reception, and only that. This question is being studied by CENELEC. Let's see what they conclude. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.j

Re: EMI Receivers - Now Terminology

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
From: "Price, Edward" List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:18:32 -0800 To: Conversation: EMI Receivers - Now Terminology Subject: RE: EMI Receivers - Now T

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-12-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message <384ddcf824e208478e2aba72f5fbeb4cefa...@etsmsg-lonexm01.etsmsg.org>, dated Mon, 1 Dec 2008, michael.na...@emerson.com writes: >An instrument, IMHO, should not primarily named by its application. In >this case, I would call it a test receiver, not an EMI receiver (not >good) or EMC

RE: EMI Receivers - Now Terminology

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Edward
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:08 AM To: Untitled Subject: Re: EMI Receivers Second, please folks, there is no

RE: EMI Receivers - Now Terminology

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Edward
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:08 AM To: Untitled Subject: Re: EMI Receivers With this sloppy terminology, rife in the

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-12-01 Thread Ken Javor
Well, yes. Not surprising. German terminology is quite exact. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:04:48 - > To: > Conversation: EMI Receivers > Subject: RE: EMI Receivers > > There is something I do not understand about this discussio

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-12-01 Thread Price, Edward
> -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf > Of michael.na...@emerson.com > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:05 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: EMI Receivers > > > An instrument, IMHO, should not primari

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-12-01 Thread Michael.Nagel
127472241 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Freitag, 28. November 2008 23:58 To: c...@prodigy.net; John Woodgate; Untitled Subject: Re: EMI Receivers Your point being? It's an important topic. And sound advice was provided concerning EMI re

[Bulk] Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Javor
2008 14:53:50 -0800 (PST) > To: John Woodgate , , Ken Javor > > Subject: Re: EMI Receivers > > Is this not getting far afield from the original topic? > > > --- On Fri, 11/28/08, John Woodgate wrote: > >> From: John Woodgate >> Subject: Re: EMI Receivers &g

[Bulk] Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread Pryor McGinnis
Is this not getting far afield from the original topic? --- On Fri, 11/28/08, John Woodgate wrote: > From: John Woodgate > Subject: Re: EMI Receivers > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 2:13 PM > In message > , dated > Fri, 28 > Nov 2

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Ken Javor writes: >This paragraph also shows the corrosive influence of poor terminology. >In fact, getting this from Mr. Woodgate, the pre-eminent sage of this >very large forum - stated with the utmost respect - in my mind confirms >the very real hypot

[Bulk] Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Javor
imultaneously imposing immunity requirements on the order of 1 V/m or above is a total non-starter, and this very contradiction is the motivation for my original comment about careful use of the EMI/EMC terminology. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: John Woodgate > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Ken Javor writes: >For instance, we control RE at three meters so that at typical BCB >reception levels, we have clear reception. That is EMC.  If we move the >culprit emitter closer to the radio receiver than three meters we no >longer have a legitimate

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Javor
@listserv.ieee.org Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:50:18 -0800 To: Conversation: EMI Receivers Subject: RE: EMI Receivers Many posts have addressed the calibration part of this question, but not the make and model part. We have an aging HP rack that we are considering relegating to spare status by purchasing a new or

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-28 Thread Jim Eichner
Many posts have addressed the calibration part of this question, but not the make and model part. We have an aging HP rack that we are considering relegating to spare status by purchasing a new or nearly new spectrum analyzer or EMC receiver (I think the line there is blurring a bit these days but

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-24 Thread Grace Lin
Tim, Many members answered your questions. Regarding calibration, I attach R&S response from the sales manager, who sold me an ESU40 early this year, for your reference. " In spite of what you may have read or heard, the ESU40 is calibrated in our Columbia Maryland facility unless you requir

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Kunde, Brian
...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMI Receivers Tim, In the US, R&S calibrations are not accredited to ISO 17025. The reasons are probably financial – they haven’t wanted to spend the $ to attain accreditation. We send our R&S receivers out for cal to a well-known accredited cal lab i

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Larry Stillings
Tim, I second Jim's caution about shipping of EMI Receivers. Make sure you buy the hard transit cases to ship receivers, or better yet, rent or take a van/truck and bring it to the lab yourself. Larry Stillings From: emcp...@aol.com [mailto:emcp...@aol.com] S

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Boyle, Conan
org] On Behalf Of Luke Turnbull Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:01 AM To: emcp...@aol.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EMI Receivers Tim, R&S receivers do not have to go back to the manufacturer. We have our receivers calibrated on site by a UK calibration lab. Luke Turnbull >&g

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Tim, In the US, R&S calibrations are not accredited to ISO 17025. The reasons are probably financial – they haven’t wanted to spend the $ to attain accreditation. We send our R&S receivers out for cal to a well-known accredited cal lab in the US, but we have had an instance of damage by th

RE: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Haynes, Tim (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
nderstand binary and those who don't. J. Paxman From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Luke Turnbull Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:01 AM To: emcp...@aol.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EMI Receivers *** WARNING *** Th

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-21 Thread Luke Turnbull
Tim, R&S receivers do not have to go back to the manufacturer. We have our receivers calibrated on site by a UK calibration lab. Luke Turnbull >>> 20 November 2008 19:39 >>> Hello, I'm looking to purchase an EMI receiver for use in a 5 meter chamber. Does anyone recommend a certain model?

Re: EMI Receivers

2008-11-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Thu, 20 Nov 2008, emcp...@aol.com writes: >I'm looking to purchase an EMI receiver for use in a 5 meter chamber. >Does anyone recommend a certain model? I would want one that has at >least a frequency range from 150kHz to 18GHz so one unit can be used >for radiated and con