Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-03 Thread Allen Kemevor
by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: Re: Marking Languages for Canada Gary McInturff wrote: I believe UL does require it, but as Rich pointed out it isn't always followed up, and II think is somewhat vague about it, intentionally I imagine

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Douglas_Beckwith
by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: Re: Marking Languages for Canada Gary McInturff wrote: I believe UL does require it, but as Rich pointed out it isn't always followed up, and II think is somewhat vague about it, intentionally I imagine

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Tarver
I must throw in with Rich Nute on this topic. The need for a marking in this instance is very context sensitive: if the marking is required by the US standard, but not by the Canadian standard, the marking does not need to be translated into French. Otherwise, there is no legal requirement.

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Jim Seippel
I have a direct plug-in power supply in my hand that has the following warnings: CAUTION Indoor use only AVERTISSEMENT Pour utilisation a l'interieur seulement I looked at another and it has the following warnings: CAUTION Risk of electric shock, dry location use only ATTENTION Risque de

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Garry Hojan
Of Constantin Bolintineanu Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:22 AM To: 'gho...@regulatory-compliance.com'; 'Peter Merguerian'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:RE: Marking Languages for Canada To a such a REPLY, . NO COMMENTS... Constantin Constantin Bolintineanu P.Eng. DIGITAL

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread SOUNDSURFR
Gary McInturff wrote: I believe UL does require it, but as Rich pointed out it isn't always followed up, and II think is somewhat vague about it, intentionally I imagine. To be very specific about it one would have to know what countries the equipment will be installed in? Often the

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Price, Ed
Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic, but most Americans forget that everything north of Maine is not Canada. Although it's a small market, the territory of Saint Pierre and Miquelon is a department of France. Thus, we have a little (very French) piece of the EU on our side of the Atlantic. Ed

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Constantin Bolintineanu
[mailto:gho...@regulatory-compliance.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: Constantin Bolintineanu; 'Peter Merguerian'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Marking Languages for Canada Constantine my friend, I would have to agree with you on this one. Also, just because the SCC

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Gary McInturff
wording appears in the installation instructions. So much for word from Spokane, Washington. Gary -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:24 AM To: 'Carpentier Kristiaan'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Marking

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Constantin Bolintineanu
[mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:24 AM To: 'Carpentier Kristiaan'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Marking Languages for Canada Carpentier, UL does not require that language be in French and English for units carrying the the cULus Listing Mark. However

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Merguerian
Carpentier, UL does not require that language be in French and English for units carrying the the cULus Listing Mark. However, there are national Labeling and Packaging Regulations in Canada which you must comply with, and I suggest you get a copy and adhere to the rules. I am just curious

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-02 Thread SOUNDSURFR
If the product is being marketed in the US and Canada, then the markings should be in both French and English. There are actually only two Provinces in Canada that require the markings to be in French, but why bother with such distinction? UL made a decision some time ago that the

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Kris: The markings on the power supply are: (also as per UL file) Date code model number electrical ratings Class 2 transformer The additional markings are: CAUTION, Risk of electric shock and Dry location use only and Do not expose to liquid, vapor, or rain

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Garry Hojan
-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Constantin Bolintineanu Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:09 PM To: 'Rich Nute'; carpenti...@thmulti.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:RE: Marking Languages for Canada Dear Colleagues

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Marking Languages for Canada Dear Colleagues, As Mat Aschenberg specified clearly , it is a requirement of the applicable Standard; (in this situation it is CAN CSA C22.2. No. 223-M91). It specifies under the Clause 5, MARKING , item 5. 2 as follows

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Constantin Bolintineanu
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Marking Languages for Canada Hi Kris: A product from manufacturer X is delivered with a (direct plug-in) power supply from mftr Y to customers in Canada. Regarding the power supply, it is UL approved + UL listed and has the UL marking with C and US

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Kris: A product from manufacturer X is delivered with a (direct plug-in) power supply from mftr Y to customers in Canada. Regarding the power supply, it is UL approved + UL listed and has the UL marking with C and US. The warning marking on the power supply is only in

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Gary McInturff
...@mitel.com [mailto:douglas_beckw...@mitel.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:23 AM To: Carpentier Kristiaan Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Marking Languages for Canada Hi Kristiaan, If you look at 60950, you are only required to mark your products in a language which

RE: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Aschenberg, Mat
Kris, It is a requirement, and customs can hold the shipments if they find it. UL does a poor job of checking the markings for both languages. Many manufacturers of CUL (Canadian UL) listed products are not aware that dual language markings are a requirement for Canada. It is a requirement, and

Re: Marking Languages for Canada

2002-08-01 Thread Douglas_Beckwith
Hi Kristiaan, If you look at 60950, you are only required to mark your products in a language which is acceptable in the country which it is being sold. In the national deviations there are some specific countries, such as Germany, who specify that safety instructions be in their particular