SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-22 Thread amund
by: cc: (bcc: Wan Juang Foo/ece/staff/npnet) owner-emc-pstc@majordo Subject: SV: Decoupling - capacitor values mo.ieee.org 04/20/02 03:45 PM Please respond to amund

SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-20 Thread amund
Tim, The standard is IEC/EN60945:1997, Maritime navigation and radio communication equipment and systems - General requirements- Methods of testing and required test results. Almost all ship classification societies as Lloyd's Register (LR), Germanischer Lloyd (GL), American Bureau of Shipping

Re: SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-19 Thread Cortland Richmond
Amund, You do not HAVE to be in a chamber to keep working on this. Since there is only one Vcc pin (which processor IS this? - be SURE there is only one Vcc pin; you may have an unfiltered, unconnected Vcc pin or two) you are limited in how many capacitors you can attach to it. This doesn't

SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-19 Thread amund
We spend a few hours in an EMC lab today, trying to suppress the unwanted 162MHz signal. We had to suppress it approximate 5 dB. There existed 100nF caps on the Vcc pins but the caps lead was long. We went on decoupling (1nF and 100nF) with short leads (not OMF caps) on the uP Vcc pin and on

Re: SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-18 Thread Cortland Richmond
Amund, I have encountered similar problems with similarly designed boards. In one interesting case, I was able to get 30 dB reduction in radiated EMI by adding a series resistor to a (fairly short) low-frequency clock line. Due to use of modern devices, its rise and fall times were less than a

SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-18 Thread amund
Interesting articles on your web-site, Tim. BTW, how about just using a 100 pF capacitor with the 'leads' hugging close to the microprocessor package There's a mile from the Vcc pin to ground, that's another problem. No ground plane, only ground traces which is routed around on the PCB. This

SV: Decoupling - capacitor values

2002-04-18 Thread amund
Correct, the picture is complex. The PCB is 2-layer with signal, 5V-power and 0V-ref lines routed on both sides. There is no ground layer/plane. There must be a large number of RF current loops because the 0V-lines are routed up and down and around. Beside trying to achieve a good decoupling I