, January 06, 2003 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in
001701c2b5af$822a26e0$db8066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me
anyway)' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003:
I have no objection to the house and arrow symbol meaning indoor use
I read in !emc-pstc that Hans Mellberg emcconsult...@yahoo.com wrote
(in 20030106214810.5293.qm...@web40904.mail.yahoo.com) about 'strange
symbols (to me anyway)' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003:
Aren't we already using symbols not in 417 such as the Hazard Warning
(exclamation
in a triangle) which
Aren't we already using symbols not in 417 such as the Hazard Warning
(exclamation
in a triangle) which is an international(except US) road hazard sign?
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On defense of the use of symbols:
I haven't read every posting on this thread, but as I understand it, for
the indoor use symbol, even the original poster has since stated that he
was pretty sure what it meant. It seemed to me that his original question
was mainly focussed on where it came
: Wan Juang Foo [mailto:f...@np.edu.sg]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:47 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.comwrote on 01/04/03 07:55 AM
If you go tohttp://www.cellotape.com/contents.pdfpage 9, is
symbol 139 the one
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From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc
I read in !emc-pstc that Ronald R. Wellman rwell...@wellman.com wrote
(in 5.1.0.14.2.20030105073019.009f5...@pop.registeredsite.com) about
'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Sun, 5 Jan 2003:
Remember that we are trying to establish the origin of this for indoor
use symbol and whether
...@wellman.com wrote
(in 5.1.0.14.2.20030104081733.009f2...@pop.registeredsite.com) about
'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003:
Many safety standards are now making reference to
IP numbers, so this for indoor use marking is unnecessary by present day
standards.
But will your elderly aunt
I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in
002701c2b402$6a322280$218066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me
anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003:
John, I didn't word that part very well.
I don't know when the indoor use only SYMBOL came into use; that could be
recently.
I should
I read in !emc-pstc that Ronald R. Wellman rwell...@wellman.com wrote
(in 5.1.0.14.2.20030104081733.009f2...@pop.registeredsite.com) about
'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003:
Many safety standards are now making reference to
IP numbers, so this for indoor use marking
To: gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com
Cc: Product Safety Technical Committee emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
Hi Gary:
As a result of searching for my copy of the
indoor use only symbol, I discovered that
I
(to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in
002c01c2b3b9$77154700$8e8066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me
anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003:
My guess is that the symbol came into use (due to the
translation requirement) and is still alive today even
I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in
002c01c2b3b9$77154700$8e8066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me
anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003:
My guess is that the symbol came into use (due to the
translation requirement) and is still alive today even though the
requirement
, 2003 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
Hi Gary:
As a result of searching for my copy of the
indoor use only symbol, I discovered that
I have a reference to the standard where the
symbol is published:
DIN 30 600 Reg. No. 02808-3
If one of our subscribers has a copy
John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.comwrote on 01/04/03 07:55 AM
If you go tohttp://www.cellotape.com/contents.pdfpage 9, is
symbol 139 the one that is on your wireless unit?
Dear all,
Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks John for pointing a symbol that does
finally somewhat fit the bill
Dan,
http://www.bay-labels.com/agency_marks.htmnumber 44 is identified as
the Japanese Jate Mark, from the Japan Approvals Institute for
Telecommunications Equipment. It is a Telecommunications Terminal
Equipment Conformity mark-- see
Dan,
If you go tohttp://www.cellotape.com/contents.pdfpage 9, is
symbol 139 the one that is on your wireless unit?
They don't tell what the symbols mean in this design guide, but maybe
someone can recognize it now...
John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE
Hi Gary:
As a result of searching for my copy of the
indoor use only symbol, I discovered that
I have a reference to the standard where the
symbol is published:
DIN 30 600 Reg. No. 02808-3
If one of our subscribers has a copy of this
standard, perhaps he could verify the
reference.
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in
200301031730.jaa10...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'strange symbols (to
me anyway)' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003:
Since one of our members could not
decipher the symbol, I question the
value of the symbol to laymen and
therefore its inclusion
Dan, Gary,
http://www.ksqlab.com/overseas/ove_bsmi.htm briefly discusses the
Chinese National Standards and the CNS Mark, and shows two marks.
Neither one of them looks like a C with a lightning bolt to me,
however...
http://www.ofco.com.tw/company.asp shows the same two marks. Some other
of the
listserver)
Gary
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:33 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc that Wan Juang Foo f...@np.edu.sg wrote (in
of39a8a68f.ebf7ed21
Hi John:
It is not an ISO or IEC symbol.
It is either in IEC60417 already or will be in the future.
It is not currently in IEC 60417.
(I have no visibility as to future
adoption of this symbol into IEC
60417.)
Since one of our members could not
decipher the symbol, I question
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:33 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc that Wan Juang Foo f...@np.edu.sg wrote (in
of39a8a68f.ebf7ed21-on48256ca3.00237...@np.edu.sg) about
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From: Gary McInturff gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com
I read in !emc-pstc that Wan Juang Foo f...@np.edu.sg wrote (in
of39a8a68f.ebf7ed21-on48256ca3.00237...@np.edu.sg) about 'strange
symbols (to me anyway)' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003:
I could not by any means to stretch my limited imagination to match the
C-tick to the description offered. I don't think
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff Gary.McInturff@worldwidepackets
.com wrote (in 917063bab0ddb043af5faa73c7a835d40ac...@windlord.wwp.com
) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003:
I have a small double insulated wall wart type power supply. 120 Vac
in,
12 Vdc out
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in
200301030156.raa04...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'strange symbols (to
me anyway)' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003:
It is not an ISO or IEC symbol.
It is either in IEC60417 already or will be in the future.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own
Gary,
The symbol you described is to indicate Indoor or Outdoor use. If the
arrow points outside, it means For outdoor use. If it points inside, it
means For indoor use only.
This house symbol is not an IEC recognized one but it IS required by some
countries for certain types of products,
: j.bac...@ieee.org
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Title: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
The nearly closed C with a horizontal lightning bolt separating top and bottom
Gary,
The house symbol means indoor use only.
John Barnes KS4GL, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE
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