Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread rehenry
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "I think the advantage is it is visual, you can see the changes right away and see quite a big picture at one time. I don't think it's that hard to pick up. I've tried to document things along the way- Classicladder docs were pretty scarce when I started." The v

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread Jim Coleman
kirk, one of my intended markets to persue will be custom automotive parts. look at how simple these "underdrive" pulleys that all the import kids are buyin up. $100 plus for half an hour of work on manual machines, seems like a decent turnout to me. If you can make parts for hobbyist/diy machine

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Barker
Kirk, I don't know what exactly you want to do for a business. It's obviously something along the lines of cnc work. I don't have any experience in that business but I can offer some general thoughts about finding work and maintaining it. Networking, word of mouth and referrals are best. Ask a

Re: [Emc-users] home-mad CNC machine project.

2008-03-01 Thread Jim Coleman
If you're going for the cheap, and dont need to really cut anything more than wax or foam, i would think some of these motors could do nicely for less than $10 each. http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category/400600/Stepper_Motors.html I think we could provide some better direction if we know

Re: [Emc-users] home-mad CNC machine project.

2008-03-01 Thread Dean Hedin
Sean, If your on a budget then go with one of the Allegro chipset based controllers (Hobbycnc etc..) Try to get motors that are rated at 2.5-3 amps (about the max that an Allegro chip can drive) and are rated around 3-5 volts. Also, make sure you run the highest voltage the controller can hand

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Morley
Jeff Epler ported CL version 7.100 to classicladder. Many people have worked on it before and after. Even the original author, Marc used some of our ideas in his updates. > Some > time later, Marc (CL author) resumed work on it, and it advanced enough > that someone (I wish I could remember

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Morley
John was referring to the first couple of versions adapted to EMC2. Modbus has been enabled in the newest version (7.124) in trunk because some people were asking about modbus, the code was already there, and a different person is maintaining Classicladder right now (me). It is experimental an

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 17:13 -0500, John Kasunich wrote: >> When CL was ported, its original drivers, including the modbus driver, >> were replaced with hooks into HAL. So the modbus driver did not get ported. >> > > What about: > ... > From: >

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread amtb
Hi Yes I am interesting to buy one similar machine. Simple build frame. Lead screw or ball screw optional. Slade can be optional also, same as on ebay or round bar with ball bearing slide. It is hard to describe machine in general, when machine ready and have real price than is easy to talk. I want

Re: [Emc-users] SoftServo

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 21:51 +, Brian W.Gilman wrote: > Kirk Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > In my opinion, you will not be able to use the versiobus or the ... snip > > more details, we may be able to better advise you on this. > > The Ormec drives have a plug beside the firewire

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 17:13 -0500, John Kasunich wrote: ... snip > I don't think of CL as a scripting language at all. It is strictly a > software based PLC. The original ClassicLadder was non-realtime, and > had built in drivers for a small variety of I/O devices, including > Modbus. Porting

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:09 +, Chris Morley wrote: >> Greetings all: > ... snip >> Also I would like to know from users where the documentation is >> lacking/unclear. >> >> Thanks >> Chris Morley > > I am still having trouble understanding the scope of EMC/Classic Ladder

Re: [Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:09 +, Chris Morley wrote: > Greetings all: ... snip > Also I would like to know from users where the documentation is > lacking/unclear. > > Thanks > Chris Morley I am still having trouble understanding the scope of EMC/Classic Ladder. It would be nice to have an int

Re: [Emc-users] SoftServo

2008-03-01 Thread Brian W . Gilman
Kirk Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my opinion, you will not be able to use the versiobus or the > networked servo drives unless you wanted to invest in having someone > create the software to enable EMC to talk to them. Depending on your > budget, time available; and that EMC is open s

[Emc-users] moving between manual and mdi

2008-03-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, When I start 5axis sim I can move to mdi and issue commands to move the machine. If I change to manual mode and move the machine. I cannot change back to mdi mode. The error tells me all axes need to be homed. The difference I see is in the first example the number of axis positi

[Emc-users] looking for input about classicladder

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Morley
Greetings all: I was in contact with Marc (classicladder's author) and he asked me what my wish list was for new development. I added this to the Wikki (most of it Marc would not be interested in): * Things I am considering: - The classicladder userspace program should check that t

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 12:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Kirk > > I can’t say about retrofitting machine but I know whole very good – large > mill sold for scrap metal because control got bad and minor mechanical > problem. > When ask how much for retrofit answer – better to buy new machin

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread amtb
Hi Kirk I can’t say about retrofitting machine but I know whole very good – large mill sold for scrap metal because control got bad and minor mechanical problem. When ask how much for retrofit answer – better to buy new machine $50-250K Here is the money. Need open your own shop and retrofit machi

Re: [Emc-users] PWM via parallel port

2008-03-01 Thread Petr Jakeš
> > On the other hand, if you really only want to generate some PWM signals, > and are not interested in g-code or position loops or counting encoder > pulses, then you can use HAL alone to do that. You should look at the > HAL manual, and especially the tutorials, which use the command line to >

Re: [Emc-users] SoftServo

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 12:16 -0500, Brian W. Gilman wrote: > Hi, > > I have a gantry type router made in California with a SoftServo > versiobus (right now using Win2000), Ormec firewire servo drives and an > Elte spindle (Yaskawa drive). It came with the SoftServo software, but > nobody's very hap

[Emc-users] OT: Marketing

2008-03-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
The reason I allowed myself to convert my machines to CNC was to try to make a living with them. Now that I am close to completion, I need to pursue getting jobs. The problem is that I don't have a clue as to how to go about it. If anyone has advice, please let me know. If this thread is inappropri

Re: [Emc-users] PWM via parallel port

2008-03-01 Thread John Kasunich
Petr Jakeš wrote: > Hi, > I am looking for the way how to get the PWM signal using PC and command > line only (no GUI). > Using the EMC software looks like a promising way. > > Can you please let me know foloowing: > >1. Does EMC work in the command line only? > >2. which max PWM freque

[Emc-users] PWM via parallel port

2008-03-01 Thread Petr Jakeš
Hi, I am looking for the way how to get the PWM signal using PC and command line only (no GUI). Using the EMC software looks like a promising way. Can you please let me know foloowing: 1. Does EMC work in the command line only? 2. which max PWM frequency is possible to expect on the paral

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa m5i2x FPGA reconfig documentation

2008-03-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Tamas Konya wrote: > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM, John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Jeff Epler wrote: > > The "mesa_m5i2x" driver is incomplete--I'm not sure what (if > anything) > > works. I also doubt there's any "documentation" beyo

[Emc-users] SoftServo

2008-03-01 Thread Brian W. Gilman
Hi, I have a gantry type router made in California with a SoftServo versiobus (right now using Win2000), Ormec firewire servo drives and an Elte spindle (Yaskawa drive). It came with the SoftServo software, but nobody's very happy with it. Part of the reason is that the drives can't be tuned, and

Re: [Emc-users] home-mad CNC machine project.

2008-03-01 Thread Andrew Ayre
I started down the path of building the Instructible you mentioned. I even have the metal framework built. However unless you scavenge everything, the costs will add up. For example, look up the cost of each of the stepper driver chips mentioned in the instructible. Times that by three (one for

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa m5i2x FPGA reconfig documentation

2008-03-01 Thread Tamas Konya
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM, John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff Epler wrote: > > The "mesa_m5i2x" driver is incomplete--I'm not sure what (if anything) > > works. I also doubt there's any "documentation" beyond the source code > > itself. > > > > Jeff > > Jeff is right - I started

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa m5i2x FPGA reconfig documentation

2008-03-01 Thread John Kasunich
Jeff Epler wrote: > The "mesa_m5i2x" driver is incomplete--I'm not sure what (if anything) > works. I also doubt there's any "documentation" beyond the source code > itself. > > Jeff Jeff is right - I started work on that last spring, but other things happened and it never got finished. Sorry a

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa m5i2x FPGA reconfig documentation

2008-03-01 Thread Jeff Epler
The "mesa_m5i2x" driver is incomplete--I'm not sure what (if anything) works. I also doubt there's any "documentation" beyond the source code itself. Jeff - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. M

[Emc-users] G17/G18/G19

2008-03-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, With the capability of the EMC2 control it is possible to remove the requirement for G17/G18/G19 and/or the G17.1/G18.1/G19.1. The control is able to use the tool axis vector to allow circle interpolation and drill cycles at whatever the current tool axis vector is. This has prob

Re: [Emc-users] home-mad CNC machine project.

2008-03-01 Thread Ian W. Wright
Sean, An easy way to go for a first project is to us drawer slides for the guide ways.. Look at http://tinyurl.com/3b6gkf and you may get some ideas. You can usually pick up suitable drawer slides fairly cheaply and all you need to do then is to mount them parallel to each other - you can use

[Emc-users] Mesa m5i2x FPGA reconfig documentation

2008-03-01 Thread Tamas Konya
Hi Folks, I have a question regarding the new m5i2x HAL driver and its config tools. I would like to reconfigure the whole FPGA core, because I need five-six stepgens, five-eight encoders, two-four PWM generators and additional IOs. I have found the new driver in the EMC 2.2.3 install package (..

Re: [Emc-users] Feedrate

2008-03-01 Thread Ian W. Wright
Thanks Brian, That's an idea for scripted moves.. I was really hoping that there would be a more 'permanent' solution, as a lot of the things I do are one-offs where I really only use MDI moves to take advantage of the precision moves possible. I gness its just laziness on my part not wanting t