Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread yann jautard
Le 27/12/2010 02:22, Kirk Wallace a écrit : The rain came and put a 1/8 of water across the whole shop, then sunny the next day and turned the shop into a sauna on freezing cold steel. Only the few cruddy parts of my machines escaped the rust. I'm _really_ pissed with mother nature right now,

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become sticky over time. Examples include LPS-2. I buy it by the gallon and put in spray bottles. i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:00 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: Le 27/12/2010 02:22, Kirk

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread yann jautard
WD40 is said to be such a product. I buy it by 5liters cans and use it also in spray bottle. Old bottle from window cleaner is very convenient :) Le 29/12/2010 14:10, Igor Chudov a écrit : There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
WD-40 is mostly composed of a solvent that evaporates, leaving a thin layer of oil. I am not sure why one would want to pay for solvent, for rustproofing purposes, so I prefer buying straight sprayable oil. i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:30 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: WD40 is said

[Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
I have a Bridgeport Interact 2 CNC mill and it has a back gear. In back gear, the spindle turns at the -1/8 of the original speed, that is, 8 times slower and in the opposite direction. I have an encoder on the driven pulley of the variable drive. Therefore, when my mill is in straight gear, the

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Oh, and one more thing: the index signal on the encoder, does not mean a full turn in back gear. It means -1/8 of a turn. Will that be a problem? On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Bridgeport Interact 2 CNC mill and it has a back gear. In back

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become sticky over time. Examples include LPS-2. I buy it by the gallon and put in spray bottles. I use LPS-1. You used to be able to get it in a trigger pump spray bottle,

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 10:18 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Is gEDA the best Linux based alternative to Eagle? I chose to look into gEDA because it has some HAL work done for it. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem After a couple of days playing with gEDA. I am able

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
For me, flood coolant itself is a rust preventative. I never had anything rust that was sprayed with coolant. The only minus of it as a rust preventative is that it dries. i -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Gary P. Fiber
Kirk, You might have a look at http://www.delorie.com/ DJ Delorie of DJGPP fame if you will, has been doing some programming work on PCB. He also frequents the Yahoo Homebrew_PCBs group. Might be a good person to start up a conversation with about PCB. It appears he does a lot of heat transfer

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Jan de Kruyf
I just had a good look around Kicad. And coming from ORCAD, I liked very much what I saw. I can basically just get on with my life, which I could NOT say of gEDA last time I looked at it. Jan. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Frank Tkalcevic fr...@franksworkshop.com.au wrote: I found KiCad

[Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread dave
Pics posted on imagebin.com under Dave. Posted today. So I know it is a scriber but what trade uses it? TIA Dave -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Dave Caroline
you are supposed to give the url to your pic Dave Caroline On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Pics posted on imagebin.com under Dave. Posted today. So I know it is a scriber but what trade uses it? TIA Dave

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread dave
I was expecting a image number like imagebin.ca give you but the only way I see to get to a pic is go to imagebin.com or imagebin.org I think one links to the other: then search for pics under Dave. It seems like a klutzy system and maybe there is a better way. I would have used

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
you can use picasa and avoid this nonsense On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I was expecting a image number like imagebin.ca give you but the only way I see to get to a pic is go to imagebin.com or imagebin.org I think one links to the other: then search

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread dave
Oh Duh http://imagebin.org/20089 http://imagebin.org/130090 I'm slow but eventually I catch on. Dave On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 11:34 -0800, dave wrote: I was expecting a image number like imagebin.ca give you but the only way I see to get to a pic is go to imagebin.com or

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Gary P. Fiber
I think some EDA tools are like driving a Ford or Chevrolet. They mostly all do the same thing, some are a better fit for oneself than others and some are incomplete. But mostly the tools I am referring to are free so I can't complain to much. Comparable to the OS wars, Do we use BSD, Linux,

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Dave Caroline
a full link http://imagebin.org/130090 Dave caroline On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I was expecting a image number like imagebin.ca give you but the only way I see to get to a pic is go to imagebin.com or imagebin.org I think one links to the other:

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Alex Joni
you mean imagebin.org I don't think there's an issue with linking the pics here (except they will be unavailable in a couple months) http://imagebin.org/130090 http://imagebin.org/130089 Alex - Original Message - From: dave dengv...@charter.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] synchronous belt supply

2010-12-29 Thread Bill Hribar
Hi All! Happy New Year! Anyway, dues anyone have a good source for synchronous belts and pulleys, with reasonable prices? Thanks much. Bill -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Karl Schmidt
Most of the cutting fluids are rust preventing - I put a bit of the concentrate on a rag and wipe things down - don't get any rust. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread dave
Lifetime is only two weeks but either the question will be solved by then or not. Dave On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 21:45 +0200, Alex Joni wrote: you mean imagebin.org I don't think there's an issue with linking the pics here (except they will be unavailable in a couple months)

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Very true -- so I was careful to mention where I came from. What I always liked about ORCAD though was the incredible speed with which I could crank out drawings. Jan. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Gary P. Fiber gfi...@comcast.net wrote: I think some EDA tools are like driving a Ford or

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Dave Caroline
for you interest there is another tools mailing list, mainly woodworking but worth a try http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools Dave Caroline On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Oh Duh http://imagebin.org/20089          

Re: [Emc-users] synchronous belt supply

2010-12-29 Thread John Kasunich
http://www.econobelt.com/ On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:49 -0800, Bill Hribar billhri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All! Happy New Year! Anyway, dues anyone have a good source for synchronous belts and pulleys, with reasonable prices? Thanks much. Bill

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 12/29/2010 01:41 PM, Gary P. Fiber wrote: I think some EDA tools are like driving a Ford or Chevrolet. They mostly all do the same thing, some are a better fit for oneself than others and some are incomplete. But mostly the tools I am referring to are free so I can't complain to much.

Re: [Emc-users] OT ..... tool

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
All our messages are archived, so people may want to look at them many months from now. It is good to have permanent images. i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.comwrote: for you interest there is another tools mailing list, mainly woodworking but worth a

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 16:54, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to put a microswitch near the back gear lever, so that EMC2 would sense whether the mill is in back gear. 1) Spindle forward actually tells the VFD to rotate the motor backwards, so that the actual spindle would

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it uses gear 0? Thanks A LOT! i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 16:54, Igor Chudov

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Would anyone have an example of gearchange implemented in their config file? Thanks, guys, this looks like it will fit my bill, I would just like to look at the example. Igor On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 20:46, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it uses gear 0? That rather depends on how your existing system is set up.

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:02 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 20:46, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 21:27, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I do not control my spindle speed from EMC at all. I do it by buttons that are electrical in nature, but are actuated by hand. The mill has a variable speed drive and I change speed by pressing buttons that run an air

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:54 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 21:27, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I do not control my spindle speed from EMC at all. I do it by buttons that are electrical in nature, but are actuated by hand. The mill has a

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: That's a great idea. I thought of something like that, but did not know that there was a component. Also remember that you can have hal_float inputs and outputs with classicladder. They get treated as integers internally, but who

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Don Stanley
Hi Igor; I use the following Hal logic to maintain the spindle speed (S setting) and direction when in Hi or Low gear on my Bridgeport. A micro switch lets EMC2 know when the spindle is in low gear and the logic selects a different scale and direction, so fwd is still fwd in low gear. You should

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread kurniadi
I understand your point - but don't think it applies here with the huge difference in quality between kicad and gEDA.  The comparison would be more like between bash and DOS  - one is clearly better.  I've used both of them - (and several commercial products over the decades - kicad is

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: Oh, and one more thing: the index signal on the encoder, does not mean a full turn in back gear. It means -1/8 of a turn. Will that be a problem? The only problem is that you won't be able to re-tap a particular hole, as the tap will enter with one of 8 possible