Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
Thanks for those ideas. I really would like black buttons with white lettering, but the only way to get translucent buttons is in white. I guess I could consider reversing it, and infilling the engraving. My initial experiments didn't work well doing infilling, so I did one using a black auto

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: Thanks for those ideas. I really would like black buttons with white lettering, but the only way to get translucent buttons is in white. I guess I could consider reversing it, and infilling the engraving. My initial

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
I doubt it. Some companies won't talk to you unless you are willing to spend $50k, the next may want $1k, its a gamble. They do put an stl of the button on their website, I guess if I had a two color 3d printer I could do it that way? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mark Wendt

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I doubt it. Some companies won't talk to you unless you are willing to spend $50k, the next may want $1k, its a gamble. They do put an stl of the button on their website, I guess if I had a two color 3d printer I could do it

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 03:13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Setting a trip point in the hal file, and a hystersis value there too, I have only been feeding comp.0.in1 and using the out as motion enable. That is sort-of OK, though that assumes that an unlinked pin is zero. I assume you are

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Bruce Layne
On 12/08/2012 08:31 AM, Erik Friesen wrote: Really the right way to do this would be to get a silicon keypad made, but for a one off project that is unworkable. It sounds like you've already gone through a lot of trouble on this, which is typical for a one off project. For all of your

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 12:51:07 andy pugh did opine: On 8 December 2012 03:13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Setting a trip point in the hal file, and a hystersis value there too, I have only been feeding comp.0.in1 and using the out as motion enable. That is sort-of OK,

[Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up!

[Emc-users] Another gotcha

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; IMO the near module needs its input pins renamed in base0, having modules pin numbers in both base1 and base0 is confusing. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Jon Elson
Bruce Layne wrote: If you're stuck with front surface engraving, then I'd engrave deeply and use a lot of paint, or several layers of paint and several layers of clear coat on top. Another trick that can work well is to use a liquid paint instead of a rattle can of spray paint, fill the

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Anders Wallin
Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. so this is roughly OK I would say. halscope would be an example of a command that doesn't have a man-page

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't see an easy way to make multicolored silicon rubber buttons, though. I shouldn't even open my mind to doing silicon, its one of those things that is tempting though. I guess I could try making my own buttons with translucent black acrylic. I am stuck using something that will fit on top

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. On your machines, but not on mine, and I

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. On

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 17:00:37 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called halcmd,

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 18:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: One of the problems I've seen occasionally with the previous setup I ran most of last summer, was that the trip was bidirectional, and if the spindle was turning at a good rate when the stop button was hit, the error developed

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:04:26 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious,

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:16:35 andy pugh did opine: On 8 December 2012 18:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: One of the problems I've seen occasionally with the previous setup I ran most of last summer, was that the trip was bidirectional, and if the spindle was turning at a

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. man halcmd. OK, so you actually have to be psychic to guess that. -- atp If you can't fix

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 23:33, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I could work on this a bit more intelligently if I drilled out a 5x20 fuse and the holder cap http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/fuses-sockets-circuit-breakers/fuses-pcb/resettable-wire-ended-fuses/ Ordinary domestic MCBs work down

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:47:46 andy pugh did opine: On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. man halcmd. OK, so you

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 19:19:02 andy pugh did opine: On 8 December 2012 23:33, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I could work on this a bit more intelligently if I drilled out a 5x20 fuse and the holder cap

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 00:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Ordinary domestic MCBs work down to 12V. http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/852575770039EC5E/all/3 C7884C29910B3CC852575B7006577BC/$File/multi_9_mcb_application_guide.pdf page 5. Physically too big for the box.

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 01:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: push button reset thermal gizmo's with a tolerance and repeatability that are horrifyingly sloppy. Thermal or thermal/magnetic? An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to make the useful parts fit (though

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 01:12, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to make the useful parts fit (though they normally include things like a chimney and an arc-extinguisher) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Circuitbreaker.jpg Seems

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 20:19:14 andy pugh did opine: On 9 December 2012 01:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: push button reset thermal gizmo's with a tolerance and repeatability that are horrifyingly sloppy. Thermal or thermal/magnetic? My guess is pure thermal, heavily

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 20:25:47 andy pugh did opine: On 9 December 2012 01:12, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to make the useful parts fit (though they normally include things like a chimney and an arc-extinguisher)

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Jon Elson
Gene, You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, and bat handle types used as on/off switches, too. New can be expensive, but they may be available on the surplus market. I have a few. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 23:49:28 Jon Elson did opine: Gene, You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, and bat handle types used as on/off switches, too. New can be expensive, but they may be

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread dave
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 23:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2012 23:49:28 Jon Elson did opine: Gene, You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, and bat handle types used as