[Emc-users] Problem with servo setup

2016-10-24 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi All I have a problem with a machine using servos. It is a 4 axis machine with the 4th axis being rotary. The linear servos are tuned and working very well but the rotary axis is not behaving well. It has a severe oscillation and I cannot seem to get the PID trimmed to stabilize the servo.

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
Cost might be an issue. When the entire computer costs $35, adding $30 to the total is quite a bit. But I'm also thinking in terms of volume and space. With Ethernet I'd need a switch and that increases the volume by maybe 30% I am thinking about Machine Kit as a motion controller, for something

Re: [Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
The 7i90hd might work for you. It uses SPI, not Ethernet. SPI is about as fast as Ethernet I am trying to figure out how a UDP packet might get "walked on" in a modern Ethernet network. Back in the days of un-switched networks that used either 10BaseT hubs (hubs not switches) or that used coa

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/24/2016 3:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Opto's on the bob are a waste of protection with modern > stepper drivers as they all have their own optos for all inputs. > Properly driven, a 2M542 driver can exceed 350 kilohertz step rates. Put > an opto on the bob and it will often fall over, stal

[Emc-users] Cheap BOB hacks. Re: Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
How about some pics of that modification? From: Gene Heskett PIMA, but the electronics are good, no laggy opto's to distort a pwm signal, and they give a rail to rail output, sourceing or sinking 24 milliamps. Opto's on the bob are a waste of protection with modern stepper drivers a

Re: [Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Why would UDP need resends on a shared ethernet port? There are no collisions on a full-duplex port & switch (which is pretty much ALL of them now-a-days.) Passive hubs went the way of the dodo. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2016 22:05:47 Mark Jo

Re: [Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Danny Miller
It absolutely requires its own ethernet port, no router either. That's because it's a realtime device and having to arbitrate would only make unpredictable latency/jitter. Like others are saying, the link for accessing your LAN probably won't even suffer if you use wifi and a USB2.0. I just us

Re: [Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 22:05:47 Mark Johnsen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings guys; I hope everyone has arrived back home without > > incidents involving bent sheet metal or worse. > > > > 1. someone said the 7i92H needs its own dedicated ethernet po

[Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Mark Johnsen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings guys; I hope everyone has arrived back home without incidents > involving bent sheet metal or worse. > > 1. someone said the 7i92H needs its own dedicated ethernet port, > presumably because udp patckets are not subject to any attem

[Emc-users] following along in my what if musings about ther new oramge pi 2e

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings guys; I hope everyone has arrived back home without incidents involving bent sheet metal or worse. 1. someone said the 7i92H needs its own dedicated ethernet port, presumably because udp patckets are not subject to any attempts at error correction resends if other traffic walks on a u

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? -->NML

2016-10-24 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/24/2016 03:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 24 October 2016 at 05:38, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: >> I thought NML fulfilled same purpose? It does. The "remote" part of NML lay unused for many years and bitrotted, but Jeff Epler revived it in 2014, and it's in the 2.7 release. We have a test

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Also consider that translation plays a role. Looking at an english "legal" or legal like document is scary enough for regular english speakers. Add in translation and then compound that scary feeling. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > NO,

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
So there is another mode I didn't mention. When accelerating or decelerating, you're not at the specified cut speed, and the laser power must be reduced proportional to the speed. For that, it's gonna use the "fast" PWM ~(10-25KHz). The period will be fixed but the duty cycle changes dependin

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 20:36, wrote: > Seems like it makes sense to handle this on the Mesa. It'd be a big task to > understand the FPGA and recode it. I don't think that there is any need for re-coding. (and I doubt that it would be sensible to start sending JPG data to the FPGA). The Mesa ca

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
NO, I stay with Linuxcnc. I stayed at place with procedures for five years but once I got better economy I started to look for something else. Procedures is tolerable if salary is good enough and I need the money. This time I will look at NML as soon as there is enough time and do not care abo

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
Well, Mesa was VERY awesome in that they open-sourced their VHDL code for the FPGA, the transport format, and their drivers. Seems like it makes sense to handle this on the Mesa. It'd be a big task to understand the FPGA and recode it. But it sounds like it'd be of great benefit. Or, alternat

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 19:47, wrote: > Pretty darn fast! Rastering can be 35 inches/sec and 100 dpi or more (more > dpi is questionable, the beam is typically 0.008" dia). So, KHz changes. So, in theory, changing the duty cycle of a 25kHz PWM at 3.5 kHz. It is possible, on some hardware, to ru

Re: [Emc-users] database

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 19:28, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > What state is the database project I heard you are/were working on? Stopped, basically. Let me shake the bars a little. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical gen

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
Pretty darn fast! Rastering can be 35 inches/sec and 100 dpi or more (more dpi is questionable, the beam is typically 0.008" dia). So, KHz changes. Rastering is done in two modes- one, you're modulating the power to make shades or depth. Two, you're doing dithering and turning the laser on-of

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
He said "horrible" not "well defined". To be horrible yo'd have to find many bullets in the C4 document that are not reasonable for example he might object to"A patch MUST adhere to the code style guidelines of the project if these are defined." I doubt anyone would call that document ho

[Emc-users] database

2016-10-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Andy? What state is the database project I heard you are/were working on? thanks Stuart -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 19:06, wrote: > I like to do fine-detail rastering. This does require rapidly changing the > power level, so it's quite a different task that just turning on the laser > with "Z". Rastering with LinuxCNC doesn't work as well as it could. Do you have a feel for how freque

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC laser cutter?

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
I just acquired a really good CO2 laser tube, and going through building the machine around it. How mature is LinuxCNC for laser cutting? I see it was used for this several years ago, although it seemed like a hack job. I like to do fine-detail rastering. This does require rapidly changing th

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
I've used the 4-way tool I linked to with 12 ga to 22-24ga wire and it always gave a perfect crimp with no adjustment or finessing. Danny Mark Johnsen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? I

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
I've used the 4-way tool I linked to with 12 ga to 22-24ga wire and it always gave a perfect crimp with no adjustment or finessing. Danny Mark Johnsen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? I

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
So far I have used that 4-way tool I gave a link for with 12 ga down to like 22 or 24 ga, it always gave a perfect crimp with no fiddling or adjustment. Danny Chris Albertson wrote: > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so > and it is still loose one trick is

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Mark Johnsen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so > and it is still loose one trick is to fold the wire in half before you > push it in the terminal, > Probably not... I bought a bunch of ChinoCo ferrules and they're al

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 17:28, John Kasunich wrote: > I think Nicklas might be referring to this: > http://www.machinekit.io/community/c4/ > It's a formal sounding document One reason for the fork was, I think, the lack of any formal process for consideration and implementation of submissions t

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so and it is still loose one trick is to fold the wire in half before you push it in the terminal, The adjustment compensates for tool wear, You need to do this after a maybe few thousand terminals I always end up taking the whole t

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread John Kasunich
I think Nicklas might be referring to this: http://www.machinekit.io/community/c4/ It's a formal sounding document On Mon, Oct 24, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > " ... horrible procedures for developers ..." > > Hard t

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: " ... horrible procedures for developers ..." Hard to answer your question as it depends on what you think of as being "horrible".Can you be specific? They are using Git and do have some rules like your code has to compile, pass self t

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Mark Johnsen
I have those crimpers and do like them w/ the exception that I don't know how to turn the 'gear' to make the compression force stronger. They're a little 'soft' for smaller dia wires. I pulled the screw out, but the geared washer doesn't turn (the one w/ + and -), I suppose I need to un-attach th

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> NML --> Horrible procedures

2016-10-24 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
What kept me away from machinekit is I rembember they had a notice with horrible procedures for developers similar as working for a large company. I looked at it and turned away, are these procedures still there? Regards Nicklas Karlsson On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 10:47:58 +0100 andy pugh wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] It was a great LinuxCNC Fest!

2016-10-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/24/2016 08:48 AM, dragon wrote: > Just wanted to send out a big thanks to Stuart and the rest of the Helix > Machine team for hosting us. I would also like to thank all of the other > attendees for the knowledge and patience that they shared. I learned a > lot and look forward to next year. >

[Emc-users] It was a great LinuxCNC Fest!

2016-10-24 Thread dragon
Just wanted to send out a big thanks to Stuart and the rest of the Helix Machine team for hosting us. I would also like to thank all of the other attendees for the knowledge and patience that they shared. I learned a lot and look forward to next year. -Todd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP di

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 05:56:53 andy pugh wrote: > https://www.amazon.com/Signstek-Adjusting-Ratcheting-Crimping-AWG23-10 >/dp/B00HPRYIL8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1477283614&sr=8-5&keywords=ferrul >e&th=1 Looks usefull, bought the pair. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC on arm

2016-10-24 Thread TJoseph Powderly
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Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 05:41, Danny Miller wrote: > > BTW, about "loose connectors"- this ferrule stuff CHANGED MY LIFE on > clamp-down-on-stranded-wire: I wouldn't dream of clamping down on loose stranded wire any more. You may need more than you think. There are a couple of hundred in this pict

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? -->NML

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 05:38, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I thought NML fulfilled same purpose? I don't _think_ that Machinekit has NML any more. I think it has all been replaced by something else (0mq possibly) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for th

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 01:18:55 Chris Albertson wrote: > Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work > It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It > connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 > 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 00:41:02 Danny Miller wrote: > > Sounds like its the -H I'd want too. More conserving of horizontal > > real estate. And while I'm not going to add yet another potential > > loose connection to the home switch setup, these bobs I have have > > such poor terminals that I

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC on arm

2016-10-24 Thread Prof. Ernesto Lo Valvo
You can see some experiences with LinuxCNC, BeagleBone Black and NURBS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjobmz18Hn_B-s89ctCoQmg -- From:Prof. Ernesto Lo Valvo Dipartimento di Architettura Universita' di Palermo Viale delle Scienze 90128 Palermo (Italy) Tel: +39-091-23861845 (direct)

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-10-24 07:18, Chris Albertson wrote: > Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work > It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It > connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 > 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA board at only $

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-10-24 09:09, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Search for Raspberry Pi CNC hat. The Up Board has a Raspberry Pi compatible > header so the Pi "hats" (as the daughterboards for the Pi are called) will > plug onto it. > I assume any of those that can be used with Linux on the R-Pi should work > with

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Search for Raspberry Pi CNC hat. The Up Board has a Raspberry Pi compatible header so the Pi "hats" (as the daughterboards for the Pi are called) will plug onto it. I assume any of those that can be used with Linux on the R-Pi should work with Linux on the Up Board. Other SBCs are adopting the R