Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> ... > We need something that can give us a text list in just a minute or so. > Ideally it would give us a list of module delays, sorted by addf order > in one column, and a second column of all the delays that signal > encounters from the hal read operation, collecting the machines instant >

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 09:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > Laying awake thinking about this lathe, and its hal configuration, it > seems like it would be at least as handy as sliced bread, to have a > utility that could collect all the processing delays and sort them > according to the addf order, giving

[Emc-users] PCI/e LPT Card Clarifications for the Wiki

2018-10-22 Thread bari
All PCI/e LPT cards work for software stepping with RTAI if the mainboard and CPU have low enough latency. This most often limited by a bad/broken BIOS that doesn't let the user kill power management, speed stepping, etc.. The PCI/e LPT cards that you have to watch out for are those that have brok

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster --> control loop delay

2018-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Rockhopper can give a graphic that can display the path and carefull > analisis of that artwork can be informative, but it doesn't really show > where the signal delays are. I think most blocks/functions are calculate in an instant in sort of. There is delay because input signal is sampled pe

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 09:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Laying awake thinking about this lathe, and its hal configuration, it > > seems like it would be at least as handy as sliced bread, to have a > > utility that could collect all the processing delays and sort them > > according to the addf o

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 20:31, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > It depends on hardware but to simultaneously sample inputs and actuate > outputs is a good method. Then computations could happen anywhere within > period and it also agree with theories for real time scheduling. I don't think that any Li

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 20:31, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > > It depends on hardware but to simultaneously sample inputs and actuate > > outputs is a good method. Then computations could happen anywhere within > > period and it also agree with theories for real time scheduling. > > I don't t

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 October 2018 14:01:35 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > ... > > We need something that can give us a text list in just a minute or > > so. Ideally it would give us a list of module delays, sorted by addf > > order in one column, and a second column of all the delays that > > signal encounte

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 October 2018 14:13:00 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 09:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Laying awake thinking about this lathe, and its hal configuration, > > it seems like it would be at least as handy as sliced bread, to have > > a utility that could collect all the processin

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 21:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Basically, by the time any HAL component reads its inputs all the > > upstream components have updated their outputs. > This is the ideal addf order, but we need a tool to yell at us when we > are out of order. Maybe I used the wrong word. B

[Emc-users] Where's the path?

2018-10-22 Thread Marcus Bowman
You know those little things that finally do your head in? When I choose to Open a file in LinuxCNC, it uses an inconvenient path name, so I always have to go up a couple of levels and select the directory I need. I can't find where the path name is stored, in LinuxCNC or in Axis. Where should I

Re: [Emc-users] Where's the path?

2018-10-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 October 2018 17:48:04 Marcus Bowman wrote: > You know those little things that finally do your head in? > > When I choose to Open a file in LinuxCNC, it uses an inconvenient path > name, so I always have to go up a couple of levels and select the > directory I need. I can't find where

Re: [Emc-users] Where's the path?

2018-10-22 Thread John Dammeyer
Gene, I think you forgot to mention which file to edit to change that PROGRAM_PREFIX. John > Theres an editor called nano that can fix that, what you probably want > is: > > PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/marcus/linuxcnc/nc_files > ___ Emc-users mailing li

Re: [Emc-users] Where's the path?

2018-10-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 October 2018 18:39:12 John Dammeyer wrote: > Gene, > I think you forgot to mention which file to edit to change that > PROGRAM_PREFIX. > John Oops & Right, I didn't because I don't know what you have called your machine. It's whatever you have called your .ini file. Often but not a

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/22/2018 03:17 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 20:31, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: It depends on hardware but to simultaneously sample inputs and actuate outputs is a good method. Then computations could happen anywhere within period and it also agree with theories for real time

Re: [Emc-users] need something like rockhopper, but faster

2018-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> ... > So, this makes sure that the encoders for ALL axes are > sampled simultaneously, and then the DACs are updated > simultaneously on the next servo cycle. Thus, there is no > variable delay between encoder sampling and DAC update, it > is always equal to the servo thread period +/- the j