Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
  I happen to use some of the quick setting JBweld today. I misspoke, it is not clear, grayish and black for the two parts. It may be just carbon black but who knows. Almost every hardware store has Devcon products, slow setting and fast. At least some are clear. Sorry for the confusion. IIRC

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I followed this series of emails.

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-12 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
That's why back in the 80's when Light Machines designed the ProLight 2000 they used an Animatics servo control box equipped to run 3 or four axes. All the smarts are in the mill. All that's needed to just mill stuff is a steady stream of incoming G-Code and ACK back and forth so the thing will

[Emc-users] Question for Peter C.W.

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
Hi Peter; Working on my encoder, I have a 5 to 1 signal attenuation according the the halscope. I'm useing ATS-667's to sense the bull gear that turns with the spindle. But the go-2, aka goop holding them in their pockets of a curved piece of alu was rotted by the 0w20 oil I use in the bronze

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package.

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 14:52:38 David Berndt wrote: > Not directly glue advise. But gear tooth sensor advise. Don't let the > heads of those things rip off and go through my gear head mill's bevel > gear teeth. Not pretty. No teeth broke but there is a surprising > amount of quite hard

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Eric Keller
my understanding is that most sin/cos are many lines per rev. It's just that they are fancier lines than an encoder made for incremental output. The index marker is one line per rev. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 1:25 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2020 11:43:52 Chris Albertson

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package. packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I saw this last night. I plan to try this, today. Thanks, Tom Dean ___ Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread David Berndt
Not directly glue advise. But gear tooth sensor advise. Don't let the heads of those things rip off and go through my gear head mill's bevel gear teeth. Not pretty. No teeth broke but there is a surprising amount of quite hard metal in the middle of something like an Allegro ATS675 it

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 12:14:24 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/11/2020 10:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 February 2020 21:55:55 Jon Elson wrote: > >> I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have > >> not had any problems so far. > >> > >> Jon > > > > And where might

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 06:46, andrew beck wrote: > > wondering if anyone has any ideas here. Just to add to the mix, I have done this with an Arduino. In my application I was also generating the excitation voltage for a resolver, so it was a little more involved. Fundamentally it is two

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 11:43:52 Chris Albertson wrote: > A sin and cos are 90 degrees apart. All you should need to do is > threshold the signal and you have A/B quadrature.Many ways to > threshold it but you want the one with least noise. > > A simple way to convert a sin wave to a

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Jon, I cant find US dist either maybe the TI chips are better is the states http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/tidua05a/tidua05a.pdf http://www.ti.com/lit/df/tidrf54/tidrf54.pdf hth tomP ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2020 05:21 AM, Thomas J Powderly wrote: hello BTW if your encoder is 11uA ( not 5V not 1Vp/p ) then the last diagram here may be of use http://pdf.dzsc.com/RLX/RLXA2510.pdf Hey, this is a GREAT chip! But, can you actually buy them? All I see are Russia and AliBaba, no US

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2020 12:43 AM, andrew beck wrote: Hi guys wondering if anyone has any ideas here. I have a heidanhain spindle motor that runs up to 1 rpm and has a 5v sin cos encoder on it. I am currently controlling the motor with a schiender vfd. I am talking to the support engineers here in

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2020 10:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2020 21:55:55 Jon Elson wrote: I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have not had any problems so far. Jon And where might I src that Jon? I don't recall seeing that at my usual git'n places. My local

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Chris Albertson
A sin and cos are 90 degrees apart. All you should need to do is threshold the signal and you have A/B quadrature.Many ways to threshold it but you want the one with least noise. A simple way to convert a sin wave to a square wave is to amplify then clip it with diodes. A comparator can

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas J Powderly
gene, On 2/12/20 10:38 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2020 05:55:34 you wrote: ... so make sure you know the full heidenhain part number when hunting info that means the full identifier is more than just 1 box on the label ) Yes, I've noted the frustration creation of

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
Check the max frequency on any encoder you look at. The inexpensive ones max out at 200 K. Frequency is not a problem is you want to throw $$ at it. It is very hard to win; lots of counts at the high end but not many when you are creeping. There just ain't no free lunch. Dave On 2/11/20

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31=2n4hbnn63oqt9ncdlervb08tv6 On 2/12/20 1:52 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2020 01:49:34 andrew beck wrote: the option I just thought of while googling is, can I convert the sin cos format in to a normal

Re: [Emc-users] closing the loop in linuxcnc with a 7i76 mesa card and step direction control

2020-02-12 Thread Todd Zuercher
The machine I am using this on was already set up and running Linuxcnc, but only using software stepping (but not using a parallel port for the I/O). I was having a lot of trouble getting a good tune on the servos as well. At that time the 7i85S, was the only option for hardware step

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 06:46, andrew beck wrote: I have a heidanhain spindle motor that runs up to 1 rpm and has a 5v > sin cos encoder on it. > Try looking on eBay for a Heidenhain EXE box. (Though I am not sure that they work with 5V sin/cos) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Eric Keller
I think the 5v are newer than the ones I have researched in the past. Don't they have a converter card for ttl/quadrature? They certainly do for the older types. People seem to have used the TIDA-00178 converter board. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 1:46 AM andrew beck wrote: > Hi guys > > wondering

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-12 Thread Les Newell
You care where the loop are because if they are in your PC you need a special PC with a special OS. Special PC? Pretty much any PC will work. I guess you could call the OS special but not nearly as special as an RTOS on an external processor. If you are really that terrified of Linux, run

[Emc-users] Fwd: Re: trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas J Powderly
sorry gene i didnt see i sent this private Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 17:55:34 +0700 From: Thomas J Powderly To: Gene Heskett hello On 2/12/20 4:52 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas J Powderly
hello BTW if your encoder is 11uA ( not 5V not 1Vp/p ) then the last diagram here may be of use http://pdf.dzsc.com/RLX/RLXA2510.pdf heidenhain encoders are good equipment, it'd be sad to change it out. hth tomp ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 01:49:34 andrew beck wrote: > the option I just thought of while googling is, can I convert the sin > cos format in to a normal TTL or something like that? even 1000 ppr > would be heaps it is only on the spindle. One thing you might try, is to use a couple of

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 01:43:33 andrew beck wrote: > Hi guys > > wondering if anyone has any ideas here. > > I have a heidanhain spindle motor that runs up to 1 rpm and has a > 5v sin cos encoder on it. I am currently controlling the motor with a > schiender vfd. I am talking to the

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Robert Murphy
Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 On 12/2/20 2:24 pm, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai