Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-12-02 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > After this problem has some type of resolution you must remember > > If it has tits or wheels it will cost money and cause problems. :) > > > I always heard, "If it flies, floats, or fornicates rent it...[?] Mark -

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-12-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 12:46:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start > > I found this http://www.x2y.com/publications/dcmotors/feb14-05.pdf > document which may be useful for others, observe however it is written by > the company who sell t

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-12-01 Thread Todd Zuercher
" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 12:46:40 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start I found this http://www.x2y.com/publications/dcmotors/feb14-05.pdf document which may be useful for others, observe however it is wr

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-30 Thread Karlsson & Wang
I found this http://www.x2y.com/publications/dcmotors/feb14-05.pdf document which may be useful for others, observe however it is written by the company who sell the GOOD components. The noise is there, it worked on the table but disturb communication on real, hopefully I will be able to test ag

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-30 Thread Dave Cole
I've had a couple of installations where filters were required and in both cases the problem was that the drives (servo drives recently, VFDs previously) were pumping noise back into the AC line which got into the other power supplies and or radiated onto the low voltage circuits and caused pro

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/27/2014 08:32 AM, Karlsson & Wang wrote: > A small value capacitor decrease the problem so I guess the > commutation spikes are the problem but driving a capacitive load is > not good. > > Nicklas Karlsson (My general view on noise) One should not expect to simply run a wire from a signal so

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-27 Thread Karlsson & Wang
6 22:12, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Karlsson & Wang wrote: > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:53:56 +0100 > > > >> From: Karlsson & Wang > > > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Cont

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-27 Thread Karlsson & Wang
;> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:53:56 +0100 > > > >> From: Karlsson & Wang > > > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > >> > > > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > >

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-27 Thread John Figie
;> From: Karlsson & Wang > > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > >> > > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communi

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Karlsson & Wang
& Wang wrote: > > > >> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:53:56 +0100 > >> From: Karlsson & Wang > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start >> >> The switching is very fast because gate transistor is 10 ohm so I will >> increase as an intermediate solution. The problem is however still >> interesting becau

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Karlsson & Wang
" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start > > > > The switching is very fast because gate transistor is 10 ohm so I will > > increase as an intermediate solutio

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Karlsson & Wang wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:53:56 +0100 > From: Karlsson & Wang > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC communicati

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Karlsson & Wang
The switching is very fast because gate transistor is 10 ohm so I will increase as an intermediate solution. The problem is however still interesting because it is so common. Nicklas Karlsson On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:34:44 + David Armstrong wrote: > i normaly make sure that all low voltag

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread David Armstrong
i normaly make sure that all low voltage wiring is sheilded and watch for ground loops and vfd inputs are via filters and Balance transformers , ethernet coms are usually problem free so long as you use good cables and not the cheap Aluminium wire ones as they are using balanced paired cores , in

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Karlsson & Wang
I have tried with USB isolator made with Icoupler devices from analog devices on other products without luck. I am using ethernet which I think have a isolation transformer. I do not think there are any tolerances for missed packets right now. For serial communication I have tried opto couplers

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I have had many problems with USB communications with motors and plasma. You can overcome these by putting an electrically isolated barrier in the usb line. There are some chips from Linear (LTM2448) that will do just that. The equipment on either end cannot be connected to the same ground or s

[Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-11-26 Thread Karlsson & Wang
PWM is great for efficient motor but unfortunately it is also very good at disturbing digital communication. Do anybody had any problems with the communication errors then motor start? Nicklas Karlsson -- Download BIRT