Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-03-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 March 2020 20:03:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 March 2020 22:55:55 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 February 2020 18:08:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 17 February 2020 16:57:36 Les Newell wrote: > > > > They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 March 2020 22:55:55 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 17 February 2020 18:08:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 February 2020 16:57:36 Les Newell wrote: > > > They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth > > > spacing. > > > > > > Your tooth spacing (pi x diam

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-03-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 February 2020 18:08:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 17 February 2020 16:57:36 Les Newell wrote: > > They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth > > spacing. > > > > Your tooth spacing (pi x diameter) / number of teeth = 0.314" > > > > So the available spacing

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 February 2020 12:05:31 Chris Albertson wrote: > You all have missed the first and most important step. You have to > first adust the sensor so that it gives a 50% duty cycle square wave > at all speeds. With an inductive sensor and a fast-moving gear you > might not get 50% from m

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 February 2020 23:59:47 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/17/2020 03:20 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > How far apart are they to be to output a good quadrature signal? > > > > Mounting them with JBKwik weld seems to be a lot less forgiving > > because its not possible to move them a few thou to fi

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2020 03:06 AM, Les Newell wrote: Hi Jon, Thinking about it, you're mostly right. I didn't think it through. My suggested spacing assumes the teeth are square, which of course they are not. The actual spacing is going to depend on the sensing range of the sensors and width of the tips

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
You all have missed the first and most important step. You have to first adust the sensor so that it gives a 50% duty cycle square wave at all speeds. With an inductive sensor and a fast-moving gear you might not get 50% from max speed to zero in both directions. Only after you are getting a 50

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Les Newell
Hi Jon, Thinking about it, you're mostly right. I didn't think it through. My suggested spacing assumes the teeth are square, which of course they are not. The actual spacing is going to depend on the sensing range of the sensors and width of the tips of the teeth. 1/4 tooth spacing is likely

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 03:57 PM, Les Newell wrote: They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth spacing. Nope, I made that mistake first time. It should be "plus 1/4 of a tooth space". Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 03:20 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: How far apart are they to be to output a good quadrature signal? Mounting them with JBKwik weld seems to be a lot less forgiving because its not possible to move them a few thou to fine tune like it was when using relatively flexible goop. Well, one

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 February 2020 17:44:01 Sam Sokolik wrote: > I cadded them up.. The slots in the bracket was enough to get decent > quadrature > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20190401_145539.jpg Maybe I'm dumb but the gear teeth move across the face, not the end. The index is turne

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 February 2020 16:57:36 Les Newell wrote: > They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth > spacing. > > Your tooth spacing (pi x diameter) / number of teeth = 0.314" > > So the available spacings between the sensor are: > > (0.314 x 0) + (0.314 / 2) = 0.157 > > (0

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
February-17-20 2:44 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math > > connundrum for me. > > > > I cadded them up.. The slots in the bracket was enough to get decent > > quadrature > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread John Dammeyer
Nice work! > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-17-20 2:44 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math > connundrum for me. > > I cadde

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
I cadded them up.. The slots in the bracket was enough to get decent quadrature http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20190401_145539.jpg On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 3:59 PM Les Newell wrote: > They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth spacing. > > Your tooth spacing

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Les Newell
They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth spacing. Your tooth spacing (pi x diameter) / number of teeth = 0.314" So the available spacings between the sensor are: (0.314 x 0) + (0.314 / 2) = 0.157 (0.314 x 1) + (0.314 / 2) = 0.471 and so on... You won't get a perfec

[Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Given that the bull gear in this lathe is exactly 6" in diameter at the outer face of the teeth; Given that it has 60 teeth; Given that the ATS-667's are mounted so as to clear the teeth by about 10 to 15 thou and they are slightly thicker than 5/32" inch. That would add about